kikibalt wrote:
This is the surprise I mentioned earlier, a beautiful
painting done by diego of Tony (L) and Frankie,
he presented it to us during the "Father and Son" luncheon
He painted one of Art Aragon that was raffle off
Thanks again diego for your kindness
Rick,Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:
This is the surprise I mentioned earlier, a beautiful
painting done by diego of Tony (L) and Frankie,
he presented it to us during the "Father and Son" luncheon
He painted one of Art Aragon that was raffle off
Thanks again diego for your kindness
That painting is beautiful! I mean beautiful. What a great work of art, and a kind gift from a true friend. Dago, you got class and a helluva lot of talent!
-Rick Farris
I agree .Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:
This is the surprise I mentioned earlier, a beautiful
painting done by diego of Tony (L) and Frankie,
he presented it to us during the "Father and Son" luncheon
He painted one of Art Aragon that was raffle off
Thanks again diego for your kindness
That painting is beautiful! I mean beautiful. What a great work of art, and a kind gift from a true friend. Dago, you got class and a helluva lot of talent!
-Rick Farris
Isn't that Trudie Latka on Don's right? Met her a couple of times, very nice lady. She undoubtedly had her hands full with George as he got older. There were times I met up with them when he'd be a bit confused or ornery, but she always had him dressed up for every occasion and took everything in stride. God bless her.kikibalt wrote:
Lover boy, Don Fraser and his two girlfriends.
Don with another one of his girls
Yes it is.scartissue wrote:Isn't that Trudie Latka on Don's right? Met her a couple of times, very nice lady. She undoubtedly had her hands full with George as he got older. There were times I met up with them when he'd be a bit confused or ornery, but she always had him dressed up for every occasion and took everything in stride. God bless her.kikibalt wrote:
Lover boy, Don Fraser and his two girlfriends.
Don with another one of his girls
Scartissue
RickRick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:
diego and Mando Muniz
We met at the "father and Son" luncheon today and I shot
this photo of diego and Mando, have more to post
later on, and also a big surprise that we received
from diego.
Looks kinda like Marciano, or somebody else who upended the "Brown Bomber".
Sorry I missed the lunch!
Gwen Adair called, she had an allergy attack and had to stay home. How was it guys?????
-Rick
No cure yet.Boxingnut wrote:I remember that incident with Steve Wynn but I didn't know he was blind. I read up a little about this disease, is it correct that there is no full cure? Man that is really tough, my heart goes to out to you.Expug wrote:KiKi and Boxingnut , Thanks , I appreciate that.
Every day something gets broken in the house by my wife not seeing it.Dishes knocked over, wine glass knocked off the counter etc.
Well we had laugh a couple years back.
Alot of people dont realize that hotel millionaire and Vegas celebrity Steve Wynn is blind. He has the same disease as my wife and son.
Any way at an art auction he accidently put his elbow through a 136 million dollar painting.
I told my wife, thats a little worse than knocking the wine glass off the table.
Ralph had power but he wasn't expected to beat Napoles and probably did as well as anyone could expect, tagging and surprising Napoles with good clean blows up to the spectacular Napoles finish.scartissue wrote:Checked out youtube a little while ago and they've added in a number of Jose Napoles fights I haven't seen and haven't seen in awhile. Watched a grainy version of his fight with Horacio Saldano, a very good version of his fight with Ralph Charles and an excellent version of his second fight with Billy Backus. I saw the Backus fight 37 years ago and never again until now. Great nostalgia, right down to Tom Harmon interviewing Joey Bishop ringside. In every fight Napoles has this patient, almost bored composure and doesn't turn it on until he wants to or is pissed off. The Charles fight displays that. When Charles tags him with a good right, you see the fire starting and I think everyone thought, "Oops, hey Ralph, bad career move!" Bennie, was Charles noted for his power? The announcer alluded to as much. Again, great nostalgia.
Scartissue
Y'know, not to take anything away from Stracey, but his greatest wins, Napoles, Lewis, Lopez and Menetrey were all in their final bout. I was a much bigger fan of Boy Green's. Of course, he had a fast burn-out style but I thought he was damn good and I thought he was leading slightly in the Palomino fight, having rocked Carlos in the 10th (alright, maybe stung Carlos). But that left hook Carlos landed on Green was a career turner, because it really softened Green up. The Leonard left hook that also took him out, was icing on the cake, Green's once formidible jaw was no more. But he was one exciting fighter and I heard the fight between Stracey and he was one wild fight. By any chance did you see it, Bennie?bennie wrote:Ralph had power but he wasn't expected to beat Napoles and probably did as well as anyone could expect, tagging and surprising Napoles with good clean blows up to the spectacular Napoles finish.scartissue wrote:Checked out youtube a little while ago and they've added in a number of Jose Napoles fights I haven't seen and haven't seen in awhile. Watched a grainy version of his fight with Horacio Saldano, a very good version of his fight with Ralph Charles and an excellent version of his second fight with Billy Backus. I saw the Backus fight 37 years ago and never again until now. Great nostalgia, right down to Tom Harmon interviewing Joey Bishop ringside. In every fight Napoles has this patient, almost bored composure and doesn't turn it on until he wants to or is pissed off. The Charles fight displays that. When Charles tags him with a good right, you see the fire starting and I think everyone thought, "Oops, hey Ralph, bad career move!" Bennie, was Charles noted for his power? The announcer alluded to as much. Again, great nostalgia.
Scartissue
Interestingly, Napoles sparred a certain John H. Stracey while in London for the fight.
kikibalt wrote:Yes it is.scartissue wrote:Isn't that Trudie Latka on Don's right? Met her a couple of times, very nice lady. She undoubtedly had her hands full with George as he got older. There were times I met up with them when he'd be a bit confused or ornery, but she always had him dressed up for every occasion and took everything in stride. God bless her.kikibalt wrote:
Lover boy, Don Fraser and his two girlfriends.
Don with another one of his girls
Scartissue
kikibalt wrote:
Ernie "Indian Red" and Danny "Lil Red" Lopez
I see what you mean, Rick, and to tell you the truth, taking in consideration his physical state (severely cut, mouthpiece protruding indicating exhaustion, probable dehydration in making weight) it was likely unintentional. Simply his body letting him down. And he couldn't have chosen a worse opponent. I've always rated Ruben my #1 bantam of all time, but I have Herrera right up there too. I feel he is very underrated, just as he was back in '72. The combination of his stout chin, underrated punching power and incredibly physical for a 118 lb. fighter made him pure poison for the partying Olivares. It would be a great fight with a prime Olivares and of course, I would have to go with Ruben in that one.Rick Farris wrote:OLIVARES & HERRERA . . .
Olivares is truly one of my three favorite boxers of all-time. Scar, I've watched that fight many times and it was not Ruben's night. For what ever reason, usually due to his partying, occasionally the great Olivares had a bad night, and on this night, I believe Ruben chose to "live and fight another day", and just laid down. Look at his reactions, etc. Ruben was ALWAYS better the second time around, but tin this case, he chose to step up and conquer more money in the featherweight division.
Some people might be appalled that a boxer might do this, especially a great legend, but it happens and more often than you think. This quirk in a boxer's psych often leads to an action that is perceived to be diliberate loss, or that the fighter was "payed-off" to lose. Sure, that has hapened in boxing, but most who "lay down" aren't paid, they just quit. They know that if they minimize the damage, in a fight they are not going to win, then they can come back better next time.
This isn't what you here boxers talk about, because in the future when trying to explain the strange loss, they rely on the "I was forced to lose" excuse.
-Rick Farris
Scar . . . I worked with Herrera at the Main St. Gym, in 1969, when I was 17. He was already a top bantam ,and he kicked my ass for three rounds. I consider Olivares among the three best, along with Manuel Ortiz and Eder Jofre. Herrera, as you mentioned, had the edge in conditioning. Olivares off-training schedule usually added a lot of weight, and luckily, Olivares was ALWAYS fighting, his active schedule is what kept him in best shape. He was up & down in the gym, depending on his focus. When he was on, he was almost unbeatable, in fact, I never saw him lose when I knew he was ready.scartissue wrote:I see what you mean, Rick, and to tell you the truth, taking in consideration his physical state (severely cut, mouthpiece protruding indicating exhaustion, probable dehydration in making weight) it was likely unintentional. Simply his body letting him down. And he couldn't have chosen a worse opponent. I've always rated Ruben my #1 bantam of all time, but I have Herrera right up there too. I feel he is very underrated, just as he was back in '72. The combination of his stout chin, underrated punching power and incredibly physical for a 118 lb. fighter made him pure poison for the partying Olivares. It would be a great fight with a prime Olivares and of course, I would have to go with Ruben in that one.Rick Farris wrote:OLIVARES & HERRERA . . .
Olivares is truly one of my three favorite boxers of all-time. Scar, I've watched that fight many times and it was not Ruben's night. For what ever reason, usually due to his partying, occasionally the great Olivares had a bad night, and on this night, I believe Ruben chose to "live and fight another day", and just laid down. Look at his reactions, etc. Ruben was ALWAYS better the second time around, but tin this case, he chose to step up and conquer more money in the featherweight division.
Some people might be appalled that a boxer might do this, especially a great legend, but it happens and more often than you think. This quirk in a boxer's psych often leads to an action that is perceived to be diliberate loss, or that the fighter was "payed-off" to lose. Sure, that has hapened in boxing, but most who "lay down" aren't paid, they just quit. They know that if they minimize the damage, in a fight they are not going to win, then they can come back better next time.
This isn't what you here boxers talk about, because in the future when trying to explain the strange loss, they rely on the "I was forced to lose" excuse.
-Rick Farris
Scartissue
