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dagosd2000 wrote:I remember when the Rock had that TV program where he'd analyze recent fights. He'd speak in that Dago voice and tell it like it is. "I told ya' Joe(Miceli)to do more work in da' gym. Ya' don't listen. Now you're payin' for it".

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You're right about Gene Fullmer. Not pretty to watch. He beat up Robinson in a couple of fights and was too strong for Basilio.Hurt Paret bad. I think he gave people the impression that he was a dirty fighter because of his style. It was his style,no more than that. A real gentleman. I thought Marv Jensen handled him well. After his last bout with Tiger,Marv talked Gene into retiring.
diego,

I met Marv Jensen when he and Fullmer were in town for the Robinson fight, I spent some time with him and Fullmer and I found both to be real gents.

Fullmer has this style you can call ugly, I wouldn't say he was a dirty fighter, it just that, that was the only way he could fight and he did have some success with it, so I give him his dues
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Have any of you guys seen the Fullmer _ Giardello fight?
I seem to recall reading somewhere that those two roughed each other up pretty good .
Butts , low blows etc.
Ive never seen that fight. Did Gene get a reputation from that fight?
I think Joey was steamed at Gene afterwards.
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kikibalt wrote: This occurred in Davila's world title fight with Enrique Sanchez in 1984. Staged outdoors in Miami, Albert was getting his arse kicked when storm clouds built up and the Heavens opened during the middle rounds. The rain was said to revive Davila who came on to stop Sanchez in the 11th. In truth, Davila always finished strongly but he was definitely losing before the rain and it's a nice story.
Yep makes a great tail though :TU: What a tough guy Davila was, outside cuts only stopped by Gomez & Zarate, you don't get much better than that.
The guy who took his title, Miguel Lora, was a helluva fighter too, short prime & who knows why...Always loved the idea of Lora defending the title on a slightly unsteady barge, hooked off the coast of Florida.
Some real weather and it might just have sailed off into the distance, taking with it the judges, crowds and all. Result unknown.
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1969 Southern Pacific A.A.U. Champions, El Monte Legion Stadium

(top row) Pete Despart, ?, ?, Mike Quarry, ?, ?, James Dick, Jake Horn, "Kit" Boursse', Manny Diaz, Memo Soto.
(bottom row) Ernie DeFrance, Pete Vital Sr, Pete Vital Jr., Florentino Ramirez, Rudy "Porky" Acuna, Rick Farris, Tommy Coulson, Henry Verastique.

As this photo was taken, the Quarry family, and the family of Mike Quarry's opponent, James Dick, were involved in a little disagreement at ringside. It was settled by the riot squad of the El Monte Police Dept.
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Rick,

Did you know Pete DesPart was the first drafree of the U.S. Army just before WWII?
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We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
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dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.

I remember that day very well, Frank. Frankie Jr. fought Ruben Castillo at 65lbs, and I still have the program for the match. Marty Denkin is an ex-Navy man, and he set up the matches at the base.


-Rick
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.
Frank
Got any pics of Audie Murhy,not his Hollywood promo stuff?
Hey Rick
You'll appreciate this Murphy story. He was on the set of a western with Hugh O'Brian. They say O'Brian was kind of a cocky guy. He goes over to Murphy and says that he can "out draw" him. Murphy's response.
"Fine, let's load up our guns with live ammo."

Frank
I emailed that kid about Jose Cotero's phone number. I haven't forgotten.
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Rick,

Did you know Pete DesPart was the first drafree of the U.S. Army just before WWII?
I had no idea, Frank.
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.
Here is Audie Murphy's Medal of Honor Citation

"Official Narrative
For Medal of Honor Recipient
MURPHY, AUDIE L.

Rank and organization: Second Lieutenant, U.S. Army, Company B, 15th Infantry, 3d Infantry Division.

Place and date: Near Holtzwihr France, 26 January 1945.

Entered service at: Dallas, Tex. Birth: Hunt County, near Kingston, Tex.

G.O. No.65, 9 August 1945.

CITATION: 2d Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by 6 tanks and waves of infantry. 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to prepared positions in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, 1 of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machine gun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from 3 sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad which was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued the single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he killed or wounded about 50. 2d Lt. Murphy's indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction, and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy's objective."

In addition to the Medal of Honor, Murphy was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, Silver Star (2), Legion of Merit, Bronze Star (2), Purple Heart (3), French Legion of Honor, French Croix de Guerre (+ Palm), and Belgian Croix de Guerre 1940 Palm, Good Conduct Medal and several unit and service medals.

On this cite, we honor (for the most part) boxers whom we admire. These were athletes who fought for a prize. It is fitting that we admire the athletic prowess and courage of these men.

But Audie Murphy was a true FIGHTER who fought for his country. God bless Audie Murphy and veterans everywhere who fought in the service of their country!
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.
Frank
Got any pics of Audie Murhy,not his Hollywood promo stuff?
Hey Rick
You'll appreciate this Murphy story. He was on the set of a western with Hugh O'Brian. They say O'Brian was kind of a cocky guy. He goes over to Murphy and says that he can "out draw" him. Murphy's response.
"Fine, let's load up our guns with live ammo.


Yes, I posted that story on another site a few years ago. The incident took place on the Western Street set of the old Republic Studios, where O'Brian was quite full of himself and attempting to impress a few starlets with his gun fighting talents. The way the prop man told it, O'Brian turned beat red, as Murphy burned him with a pair of blue eyes. The young ladies were certainly impressed, as O'Brian squirmmed.

Typical actor.


-Rick
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Thanks Tom for that citatation info.
Rick,thanks for embellishing that O'Brian story.
Frank,thanks for being Frank.
The thread is moving nicely along.
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Alan Minter vs Marvin Hagler
Minter later admitted he was relieved when it was stopped. The bravery of the attending cops is always worth a mention. They shielded Marvin and got him back to the dressing room in one piece against all the odds.
Welcome to soulless 1980s Britain.
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MightyWarrior wrote:
bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote: This occurred in Davila's world title fight with Enrique Sanchez in 1984. Staged outdoors in Miami, Albert was getting his arse kicked when storm clouds built up and the Heavens opened during the middle rounds. The rain was said to revive Davila who came on to stop Sanchez in the 11th. In truth, Davila always finished strongly but he was definitely losing before the rain and it's a nice story.
Yep makes a great tail though :TU: What a tough guy Davila was, outside cuts only stopped by Gomez & Zarate, you don't get much better than that.
The guy who took his title, Miguel Lora, was a helluva fighter too, short prime & who knows why...Always loved the idea of Lora defending the title on a slightly unsteady barge, hooked off the coast of Florida.
Some real weather and it might just have sailed off into the distance, taking with it the judges, crowds and all. Result unknown.
Lora pasted Daniel Zaragoza to win the title. I remember thinking at the time: 'Who is this Lora?' Nobody pasted Zaragoza. Lora went on to make eight defences, including two decisions over Davila (injury had forced Davila to relinquish, so Lora proved himself beyond all doubt the rightful champion).
Another of Happy's victims was the said Enrique Sanchez. Lora destroyed him.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.
Frank
Got any pics of Audie Murhy,not his Hollywood promo stuff?
Hey Rick
You'll appreciate this Murphy story. He was on the set of a western with Hugh O'Brian. They say O'Brian was kind of a cocky guy. He goes over to Murphy and says that he can "out draw" him. Murphy's response.
"Fine, let's load up our guns with live ammo."

Frank
I emailed that kid about Jose Cotero's phone number. I haven't forgotten.
diego

No I don't have any Murphy photos that're not Hollywood promo stuff, I didn't take any pictures that time, what I did get was a speeding ticket on the way home from China Lake.
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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.

I remember that day very well, Frank. Frankie Jr. fought Ruben Castillo at 65lbs, and I still have the program for the match. Marty Denkin is an ex-Navy man, and he set up the matches at the base.


-Rick
Rick,

You're right Frankie did fight Ruben Castillo, in order to make the fight we had to agree to have Frankie go easy on Ruben, Frankie had already been boxing 5 years and Ruben was just getting started.

Did you know that Marty Denkin had also been a cop?
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dagosd2000 wrote:We finished up the Civil War today at school. I always end this section with showing the movie"The Red Badge Of Courage" starring Audie Murphy. I've been teaching U.S History for 20 years and there hasn't been a kid who ever heard of him.
"Does anyone know who Audie Murphy was?"
"We know who Eddie Murphy is",is the usual response.
I show "The Red Badge Of Courage"to my classes every year,not only because it is a good represntation of a Civil War battle,but it gives me a chance to do a lesson about Audie Murphy.

I tell my classes that Audie was the most decorated war hero in United States military history. They're always amazed how young Murphy looked. How short he was. Later in the year I'll show them "To Hell And Back",the biographical story of Murphy's combat in World War II. I get great pleasure watching the other actors in that movie "glowing" in Murphy's presence. I saw a documentary on the making of "To Hell And Back". Some of the other actors like Paul Picerni and "The Golden Boy" Art Aragon said working with Murphy was a kick. A down to earth guy. They all laughed a lot. They all became friends. Being in his presence not only brought out the best in their performances,but they were just so damn proud to be with him. I know Art must have thought the world of Murphy because he named his son,Audie. That was good. That was real good that he named his son Audie.

Murphy and Aragon were around the same size. Both natural lightweights. Maybe they only weighed 130 pounds,but both were tough as nails. Full of life. They had their personal battles as well. But they never made excuses and never complained that they should have deserved more than what they got out of life. Both boys could take it as much as well as they could dish it out.

After attending last week's California Boxing Father and Son Luncheon,I talked to the class about the former champs like Mando Ramos,Bobby Chacon,Lttle Red,and"Boom Boom" Mancini. I talked about Art"Golden Boy" Aragon. They never heard of those guys.

Well I guess those former champs are in good company because those kids never heard of Audie Murphy either. But if you happen to sign up for my U.S. History class,you'll come out of it knowing about those champions and our country's greatest war hero. They are a part of our history that not many people,especially the young people,know about.
Next tell them about Sgt. York, and show them the movie Sergeant York, a classic.
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After World War II, Audie Murphy reportedly had
some very rocky personal moments despite having
quite a bit of success as a movie actor. I have read
that he had severe bouts with depression because
of his war experiences.

- Chuck Johnston
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kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote: diego,

I met Audie Murphy in 1969 in China Lake Ca. thats in the Mojave Desert, there were some fights at the Naval Weapons Center, Murphy was there with Randy Shields and his dad Sonny, they introduce me to him, seen like a real nice guy, didn't put on no airs.
Rick Farris was there too.

I remember that day very well, Frank. Frankie Jr. fought Ruben Castillo at 65lbs, and I still have the program for the match. Marty Denkin is an ex-Navy man, and he set up the matches at the base.


-Rick
Rick,

You're right Frankie did fight Ruben Castillo, in order to make the fight we had to agree to have Frankie go easy on Ruben, Frankie had already been boxing 5 years and Ruben was just getting started.

Did you know that Marty Denkin had also been a cop?

Frank, I didn't know that Marty had been a cop. In July, 2000, I was living in Phoenix and covered the Kostya Tszyu-J.C. Chavez fight for the CBZ. At the weigh-in, I had a chance to visit with a lot of old friends from L.A. who were involved with the match, including Denkin, who was a judge. I sat and talked with Marty for about ten minutes and it was great talking of old times in L.A.

Last summer, Gwen Adair invited me to a match she was judging with Marty in Calabasas. Before the match, I visited with Marty and Vince Delgado, another Judge. Out of the clear blue, we discussed the Johnny Owens-Lupe Pintor match, that Marty had refereed. Which led to discussion of the tragic Davey Moore -Sugar Ramos match. Basically we were discussing boxers who had been killed in L.A. rings.

In the first match, a young prelim fighter named Jaclson Burcell, fought hard to gain a draw. It appeared he took a pretty good shot at the end of the fight, but he was OK. After the decision, he walked to shake hands with his opponent, turned to walk away, and suddenly his legs collapsed and he just sank to the canvas and lapsed into a coma.

He was put on a stretcher and rushed to the hospital, where he was pronounced dead on arrival.

What a tragic coincidence.


-Rick Farris


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