Date for Williams v Hide set to be announced Monday

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » 21 Feb 2004, 16:13

Seems like the deal is done they have agreed to fight apparently for the EU title. Dont know if the purse bids have taken place but know they will have to take place because of conflicting TV deals.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 22 Feb 2004, 00:16

The words shit or bust spring to mind!

Williams will do a number on Hide I reckon...

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 22 Feb 2004, 07:32

I SMELL TROUBLE AHEAD.

This fight makes a lot of sence in that its a good way for either fighter to get their career back on track were as the loser will have nowhere to go, so the pressure is on for both of them.

Now here lies the problem, if this fight happens and I still have my doubts we are dealing with two talented fighters with many impressive physical atributes which at times have many fans thinking they could compete with the best in the world.

However they both seem to be mentaly fragile, Hide can be very volatile like before the Viltali fight and in his out of ring 'problems'. Williams seems to lack confidence and sometimes does not look comfortable in the ring.

There is also as we know history between these two fighters, they don't like each other at all, this could spell TROUBLE. The BBBC, SKY/BBC need to very carefull with this one at press conferences and weight-ins etc. We dont want another brawl like Hide-Bentt.

Due to this fact it may make a great fight in the ring or it may lead to an ill-tempered, foul filled fight.

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 22 Feb 2004, 15:34

I cant see this happening.

But if it did, then i would expect Hide to crush and finish williams once and for all.

hide · Post by **hide** » 23 Feb 2004, 10:38

If this fight ever went ahead i would expect hide to win inside 5 rounds and give his career a much needed lift

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 23 Feb 2004, 10:41

This would be a good fight, I used to think Danny would spark him but i'm not so sure now. Danny has looked so bad for so long, I think HH is much better than him.

One things for sure, it would be a good domestic fight and would capture the general public as well as hardcore fans.

J · Post by J » 23 Feb 2004, 10:44

one thing to say Come on Danny, I cant stand hide, he is an ignorant rude volatile violent man (outside of the ring also).
He is bad news. But the fight will be a successful boxoffice draw undoubtedly as its a grudge match.

hide · Post by **hide** » 23 Feb 2004, 10:57

Williams has got to be the least exciting British title contender in the last decade

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:01

Ask yourself this....

Who has Hide beaten recently to convice anyone he can beat even a past it Williams?

Answer.....nobody.

Beating up Eastern European stiffs and domestic professional 'opponents' proves nothing.

I think Williams will still spark him.

J · Post by J » 23 Feb 2004, 11:05

really hope you are right but Danny has this unbelievable capcity for just not turning his brain on.
Sinal Sam and sprott shwo this and the one thing that Herbie can still do is talk to intimidate and punch hard. I
f he gets inside williams head then god help us HH will be back in the domestic scene and how, personally I hope Danny retires him.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:07

Looks like this fight won't be happening. Hide has gone AWOL again. He's genuinely scared of Williams.

J · Post by J » 23 Feb 2004, 11:08

thanks Bennie. Bloke is a nut nut, I know a few lads from Norwich one of my best mates lives there says the blokes a f*cking menace.

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:11

Don Beach reckons Jess Harding won the purse bids

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:18

shakermaker wrote:Don Beach reckons Jess Harding won the purse bids

Yes, with a bid of around 225,000 Euros. allegedly must be slashing his wrists. Real coup for big Jess. Maybe the fight will happen after all.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:26

bennie wrote:
shakermaker wrote:Don Beach reckons Jess Harding won the purse bids
Yes, with a bid of around 225,000 Euros. allegedly must be slashing his wrists. Real coup for big Jess. Maybe the fight will happen after all.

didnt henessy bid more for this fight than WBC box off

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:29

Hide cacked it last time Williams called his bluff, and let's face it, since getting destroyed by Vitali, who has Hide beaten, let's have a look shall we?

Alex Vassilev 222½ 15-11-1
2003-05-27 220 Joseph Chingangu 222 20-8-0
2003-04-16 223¾ Derek McCafferty 240 2-13-1
2001-09-22 Joseph Chingangu 19-5-0
2001-07-14 Alexei Osokin 9-10-1

Wow, what a bunch of luminaries!

Neither Hide nor Williams is exactly on the up, and Williams hasn't exactly lit the world up with his talent, but I still think he has too much for Hide, and isn't in the slightest scared of Hide, who I think he knows is cacking it.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:34

REAL_DEAL wrote:
bennie wrote:
shakermaker wrote:Don Beach reckons Jess Harding won the purse bids
Yes, with a bid of around 225,000 Euros. allegedly must be slashing his wrists. Real coup for big Jess. Maybe the fight will happen after all.
didnt henessy bid more for this fight than WBC box off

What, Hennessy bid more for this than the Eastman fight?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 23 Feb 2004, 11:48

bennie wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:
bennie wrote: Yes, with a bid of around 225,000 Euros. allegedly must be slashing his wrists. Real coup for big Jess. Maybe the fight will happen after all.
didnt henessy bid more for this fight than WBC box off
What, Hennessy bid more for this than the Eastman fight?

Yer he bidded 136,893 euros for Eastman fight and 203-000 for williams - hide fight

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 23 Feb 2004, 12:25

Well I'm just glad its on the BBC. Good luck to Harding 8) this is a big fight and if he is backed by the BBC he'll make a good job of it.

oh and welcome back DW to the BBC you traitor!!!!

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 23 Feb 2004, 12:31

shakermaker wrote:Well I'm just glad its on the BBC. Good luck to Harding 8) this is a big fight and if he is backed by the BBC he'll make a good job of it.

oh and welcome back DW to the BBC you traitor!!!!

where nasty when you need him :P :P :P

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » 23 Feb 2004, 13:26

Words cant describe how happy I am that FW lost the purse bid. He keeps talking in his papers about purse bids to Audley while looking all smug thinking he can definately outbid these people and now this happens I shall start us off extending a warm 2finger salute to allegedly.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 23 Feb 2004, 14:16

So the fight is happening?

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 23 Feb 2004, 14:19

What makes anyone think Hide will intimidate DW?
He's already knocked him cold in sparring, even Herbie has admitted as much.
The Hide we see is just a mirage - his chin is GONE.
He'll go down faster than George Michael the first time he gets hit by a 1/2 decent fighter.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 23 Feb 2004, 14:27

Goz wrote:So the fight is happening?

You won't be here! :x

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 23 Feb 2004, 14:27

MightyWarrior wrote:What makes anyone think Hide will intimidate DW?
He's already knocked him cold in sparring, even Herbie has admitted as much.
The Hide we see is just a mirage - his chin is GONE.
He'll go down faster than George Michael the first time he gets hit by a 1/2 decent fighter.

i agree, i happen to think Williams may be able to take one or two of Herbie's shots without going down. A stiff jab would have Hide in alot of trouble.

Psychologically, Williams will be alot more confident also. He's generally feeling alot more relaxed, and with his history with Hide, he should be even more confident without being arrogant.