Joan Guzman

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 27 Feb 2004, 09:30

i been keeping an eye on him ever since he won the WBO super bantam title on the Calzaghe-Jiminez undercard. He's terrific IMO. Can box,m can fight, alot of power and very tough.

Last night he beat his fellow Dominican Agapito Sanchez in 7 one sided rounds. Barrera, Pacquaio, Marquez amongst others have failed to KO Sanchez ye Guzman brutally beat him up from what i have read.

This guy is the best super bantam now, and i think he beats Pacquaio as well.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Feb 2004, 09:40

Great minds hey Adam, we must have written that at the same time!

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 27 Feb 2004, 10:11

stujones wrote:Great minds hey Adam, we must have written that at the same time!

nah mine was 8 minutes earlier

did you see the fight then? do you reckon he can now be considered the best super bantam? And lik me do you feel he would beat Pacquaio as well?

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 27 Feb 2004, 10:26

If ya nickname is Little Tyson you had better be able to fight!!

I too have monitored his progress since appearing on that Sports Network show and it would now appear his contractual problems are behind him we can look forward to some good match ups.

He is an eight and a half stone ball of fury. Can't wait to see him in with the other names in and around his weight class. :)

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 27 Feb 2004, 10:27

I tipped Sanchez to beat him.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 27 Feb 2004, 10:42

bennie wrote:I tipped Sanchez to beat him.

least you got the round right 8) 8)

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Feb 2004, 13:33

adamiw wrote:
stujones wrote:Great minds hey Adam, we must have written that at the same time!
nah mine was 8 minutes earlier

did you see the fight then? do you reckon he can now be considered the best super bantam? And lik me do you feel he would beat Pacquaio as well?

Don't think you can call him the best Super Bantam yet, I think Larinos holds that honour - got to give Larinos some dues, his next fight in in Asia against one of the many classy Asian fighters from this weight. The impressive Veeraphol (who I have seen) is fighting in the co-feature. Maybe Veeraphol vs Larinos is being negotiated - now that would be a contest.

I really don't know who I would pick between Larinos and Guzman, probably Guzman although Larinos has done nothing wrong as a champion and destroyed the tough Jorrin to win the belt. Paulie Ayalia is still a class act also, who should be back at SuperBantam.

I'm not saying Guzman can't beat them, infact I would favour him - just don't think he's done enough to warrant a higher ranking than these two yet - Sanchez was tough, but wasn't the best of champions.

No I didn't see the fight, but I have been chatting to US e-mail mates who were very impressed, fights a bit like Tyson in his total distain for the other guys abilities - as we saw in Cardiff.

Will he beat Pacquiao - before the Barrera fight I would have said yes, but now I am unsure as Manny was punch perfect against the P4P #2 fighter at the time.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 27 Feb 2004, 15:17

Remember Agapito Sanchgez has a 5 round KO win against Larios. It's close between Oscar, Joan and of course Paulie Ayala. I just feel that Guzman is the best, although he hasn't achieved what they have.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 27 Feb 2004, 15:24

adamiw wrote:Remember Agapito Sanchgez has a 5 round KO win against Larios. It's close between Oscar, Joan and of course Paulie Ayala. I just feel that Guzman is the best, although he hasn't achieved what they have.

You've just reminded me why I went for Sanchez. I feel a bit better now. Sanchez also went 12 rounds with Barrera and licked Juan Manuel Marquez - a fight after Marquez had stopped Steve Robinson over here. Good win for Guzman.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 27 Feb 2004, 16:59

I was ringside at Cardiff + it looked like Guzman was in w/ a stiff, but this win shows he's the real deal.
Sounds a brutal win + he almost won in the first round!

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 27 Feb 2004, 17:48

MightyWarrior wrote:I was ringside at Cardiff + it looked like Guzman was in w/ a stiff, but this win shows he's the real deal.
Sounds a brutal win + he almost won in the first round!

btw, Oliva, the guy Guzman beat has since defeated Pastor Maurin.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 27 Feb 2004, 17:49

adamiw wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:I was ringside at Cardiff + it looked like Guzman was in w/ a stiff, but this win shows he's the real deal.
Sounds a brutal win + he almost won in the first round!
btw, Oliva, the guy Guzman beat has since defeated Pastor Maurin.

lol, i'm wrong, he lost by SD to him.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Feb 2004, 08:23

bennie wrote:
adamiw wrote:Remember Agapito Sanchgez has a 5 round KO win against Larios. It's close between Oscar, Joan and of course Paulie Ayala. I just feel that Guzman is the best, although he hasn't achieved what they have.
You've just reminded me why I went for Sanchez. I feel a bit better now. Sanchez also went 12 rounds with Barrera and licked Juan Manuel Marquez - a fight after Marquez had stopped Steve Robinson over here. Good win for Guzman.

Bennie, Marquez is the current WBA/IBF Featherchampion - he aint ever faught Stevo (thank god).

Your talking about Jaun Carlos Ramirez, that overated fighter that a faded Robinson was 1 round from beating. Ramirez may have lost to Sancez, but he got hammered by Bobby Boy Valderez.