Hopkins vs Benn/Eubank/Collins

big lennox · Post by **big lennox** » 24 Apr 2008, 08:52

How do you think he would fair against these guys?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Apr 2008, 08:56

Beat them all:

Collins - picks him apart the way McCallum did years earlier

Benn - Defensively too good, makes Benn miss and pay, outboxing and punnishing Benns defensive floors

Eubank - moderately close fight but BHOPs technical and defensive proess and his higher workrate out doing Chris.

Bottom line while physically they may be up with BHOPs. In terms of making mistakes they make too many, BHOPS makes few mistakes and makes the opponents pay for their's

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 24 Apr 2008, 08:57

He'd beat Benn in a monumental fight, outfox Collins and be involved in an ugly fight with Eubank.

Walker Smith Jr. · Post by **Walker Smith Jr.** » 24 Apr 2008, 09:10

The fight with Eubank would be a stinker i reckon with Hopkins winning on points. I think he would stop Benn and be a clear points win over Collins.

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 24 Apr 2008, 09:15

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Beat them all:

Collins - picks him apart the way McCallum did years earlier

Benn - Defensively too good, makes Benn miss and pay, outboxing and punnishing Benns defensive floors

Eubank - moderately close fight but BHOPs technical and defensive proess and his higher workrate out doing Chris.

Bottom line while physically they may be up with BHOPs. In terms of making mistakes they make too many, BHOPS makes few mistakes and makes the opponents pay for their's

Agreed

bridportboxer · Post by **bridportboxer** » 24 Apr 2008, 09:29

I was thinking about this the other day,
When it got to the 10th round Hopkins looked done as far as I am concerned and a bigger puncher would have had a good chance of stopping him,
That said Benn would be outboxed badly, Collins would get countered all night long, but Eubank I think would have beaten him fairly handily. I think he gets a lot of stick because of his lifestyle etc., but I genuinely think he'd have stopped Hopkins in the later rounds - the young version of Eubank was top notch.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 24 Apr 2008, 09:44

lol. noone stops hopkins, least of all chris eubank.

bridportboxer · Post by **bridportboxer** » 24 Apr 2008, 09:45

Riddick Blowe wrote:lol. noone stops hopkins, least of all chris eubank.

You're right of course, I forgot Hopkins was Superman

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 24 Apr 2008, 09:47

I'm taking Hopkins from the late nineties to 2001 here. Not the current geriatric version.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 24 Apr 2008, 10:54

Ok David I agree he beat all 3 in his prime but how do they do against the current version? Could he still out box Benn with his limited punch output (also would he get as much luck on the inside against someone just as rough as himself)? Has he the legs to cope with Collins marching forward throwing shots? Would he and Eubank spend 12 rounds waiting for each other to throw a punch?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Apr 2008, 10:57

bridportboxer wrote: When it got to the 10th round Hopkins looked done as far as I am concerned and a bigger puncher would have had a good chance of stopping him,
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Only at the age of 43, do you realise Hopkins is older than Eubank

In his prime Hopkins never ran out of stamina

bridportboxer · Post by **bridportboxer** » 24 Apr 2008, 11:01

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
bridportboxer wrote: When it got to the 10th round Hopkins looked done as far as I am concerned and a bigger puncher would have had a good chance of stopping him,
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Only at the age of 43, do you realise Hopkins is older than Eubank In his prime Hopkins never ran out of stamina

Yeah, but what versions are we talking about here? - A prime Eubank beats this version of Hopkins. A prime Hopkins vs a prime Eubank might be a very different story.

I would presume the original question was for this version of Hopkins as that is what we watched on Saturday night.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Apr 2008, 11:02

bridportboxer wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
bridportboxer wrote: When it got to the 10th round Hopkins looked done as far as I am concerned and a bigger puncher would have had a good chance of stopping him,
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Only at the age of 43, do you realise Hopkins is older than Eubank In his prime Hopkins never ran out of stamina
Yeah, but what versions are we talking about here? - A prime Eubank beats this version of Hopkins. A prime Hopkins vs a prime Eubank might be a very different story.

I think he meant prime for prime. Prime Eubank may beat this version but I wouldn't bet my house on it, Eubank hardly pressured and set a frantic pace that would tire Hops out. And this version of BHOPs is technically allot better than any of Eubanks

big lennox · Post by **big lennox** » 24 Apr 2008, 11:40

I think they would be fascinating. I agree Collins would have been picked off, and Been could get tired, but he had the sort of power that can make people change their game plan -Eubank did too.

fist · Post by **fist** » 24 Apr 2008, 12:17

benn knocks him out and \eubank wins on points.

STP · Post by **STP** » 24 Apr 2008, 13:48

He beats Collins and Benn. The young Hopkins completely outworks Eubank. But the older Hopkins just doesn't beat Eubank.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 24 Apr 2008, 14:21

fist wrote:benn knocks him out and \eubank wins on points.

Be honest. have you ever seen Hopkins fight, outside of the Calzaghe fight.

Mukel · Post by **Mukel** » 24 Apr 2008, 14:32

The only one with a chance as i see it is Eubank, the others would be picked off with Benn getting stopped and collins going the distance.

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 24 Apr 2008, 14:53

Benn can be nailed but the best way to find Benn is by letting him come foward and popping him with the jab and following up with the right hand.. like Eubank did, like McClellan did in 8/9 round, like Anthony Logan did when he put Benn down.. and Galvano hurt him badly with a 1-2 in their second fight when Benn was walking him down, right at the death remember..

Hopkins would do the same.. i think most would agree that the way to beat Benn was to box him, let him come foward then nail him.. basically.. he was always always too eager to launch..

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 24 Apr 2008, 14:58

Collins not in the league..

Eubank and Hopkins is an extremely interesting one, though.. it probably be something of a staring contest.. but Eubanks upper bod movement and faster legs/feet and better flexibility and punch variety would prob win him the day, though Hop is taller, naturally rangier, consistently more precise with the right and (prime) doesn't need breaks.. be close, and damn interesting..

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 25 Apr 2008, 02:23

big lennox wrote:I think they would be fascinating. I agree Collins would have been picked off, and Been could get tired, but he had the sort of power that can make people change their game plan -Eubank did too.

The point with Benn is that you never actually knew what he might produce - he was as dangerous a single shot puncher as anyone, and as such its hard to say that BHop would definitely have beaten him; sure, as a percentage if they fought 100 times, the American would come out on top but on the right day Benn had the shot to destroy anyone.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 25 Apr 2008, 11:26

He was a cruiser though

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 25 Apr 2008, 12:11

mick t wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:lol. noone stops hopkins, least of all chris eubank.
noone must be a hell of a fighter?

Good read, here: http://www.topix.com/forum/source/the-m ... UMITTC7RRO

fist · Post by **fist** » 25 Apr 2008, 12:23

Riddick Blowe wrote:
fist wrote:benn knocks him out and \eubank wins on points.
Be honest. have you ever seen Hopkins fight, outside of the Calzaghe fight.

Yes i have. Only seen the couple of knockdowns he had years ago on youtube, and clearly he has a good chin. But I would never bank against a power horse like Benn. If anyone got have got Hopkins out of there it is Benn. Benn KOs him, cold.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 25 Apr 2008, 14:02

so you have only seen the mercado fight outside of the calzaghe fight.

hmm. doesn't really stack up to being qualified to say that Benn 'knocks him out cold'. eg, how on earth would Benn land shots on Hopkins at all, let alone shots to 'knock him out cold' when ROY JONES hardly landed anything meaningful on him.

Im english, and I would concede that we have waay the more rabid, delusional fans than americans who in the main are actually quite rational.