USA-Puerto Rico to be webcasted on www.spam.tv Sat

philly · Post by **philly** » 23 Apr 2008, 14:43

U.S.A. v. Puerto Rico National Teams Live Webcast on http://www.spam.tv This Saturday, April 26th at 7pm

For Immediate Release

National Teams from the United States and Puerto Rico will convene in the boxing Mecca of Philadelphia for an Olympic-style boxing dual on April 26 at the Liacouras Center. This major event will feature top boxers from both teams as each prepare for the Olympic Games.

The competition will showcase many of the athletes who will be vying for gold in Beijing in August. The United States and Puerto Rico battled prior to the Olympic Games in 2004 as well, and many of the same faces could be on hand for the April 26 match-up. 2007 World Champion and two-time Olympian Rau'shee Warren (Cincinnati, Ohio) could face a rematch with 2008 Puerto Rican Olympian and Pan American Games gold medalist McWilliams Arroyo. The two squared off at the light flyweight division in their earlier battle, but both have moved up to the flyweight division for the

2008 Olympic Games.

"The U.S. National Team has had a strong rivalry with Puerto Rico for years. This event will preview many of the top contenders in Beijing, and promises to be a night of outstanding competition," said USA Boxing CEO Jim Millman."

The United States is enjoying a resurgence in amateur boxing, and is currently ranked second in the world based upon their finish at the 2007 World Championships in Chicago, Ill. Puerto Rico and the United States haven't faced off in head-to-head dual action since May of 2004 as the two nations battled prior to the 2004 Olympic Games.

USA Boxing, as the national governing body for Olympic-style boxing, is the United States' member organization of the International Amateur Boxing Association (AIBA) and a member of the United States Olympic Committee (USOC).

See the competition LIVE Sat., April 26th, on http://www.spam.tv, starting at 7 PM EDT!

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 23 Apr 2008, 15:46

I think we'll have to wait for the Raushee Warren-McWilliams Arroyo rematch as Arroyo was injured recently.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 24 Apr 2008, 12:44

Who is competing for the U.S.? I know that a couple of our Olympians are still trying to qualifyin Guatemal so they won't be there, but what about the rest.

Anyone have the roster for this dual?

debc · Post by **debc** » 24 Apr 2008, 13:34

Dennis, it is posted on USA Boxing site.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 24 Apr 2008, 16:12

debc wrote:Dennis, it is posted on USA Boxing site.

Thanks, I'll go look at it.

NYboxing · Post by **NYboxing** » 25 Apr 2008, 18:37

Match-ups for USA-Puerto Rico dual meet

106 - *Luis Yanez-Bryan Aquino
112 - *Rau’shee Warren-Jonathan Gonzalez
112 - Bruno Escalante-Carlos Ortiz
119 - David Clark-McJoe Arroyo*
125 - Robert Rodriguez-Jorge Maysonet
132 - *Sadam Ali-Daniel Rosario
141 - *Javier Molina-Luis Gonzalez
152 - Javontae Starks-Ricardo Reyes
165 - Luis Arias-Enrique Collazo
178 - Siju Shabazz-Carlos Negron*
201+ Kimdo Bethel-Juan Jacob

*2008 Olympians

(Source USA Boxing)

lap · Post by **lap** » 26 Apr 2008, 19:41

What an amazing amazing intiative. It's only one fight in (Luis Yanez is really good), but I'm already glad I logged in.

Canada · Post by **Canada** » 26 Apr 2008, 22:28

That was a great broadcast. USA was impressive . The fire that Arias had impressed me, he went out there with power on all his punches and wouldnt let the other guy get away with rough house type tactics.

I am praying theyre are more events like this to come!!!!

lap · Post by **lap** » 26 Apr 2008, 22:49

Canada wrote:That was a great broadcast. USA was impressive and I was glad to see Clark upset Arroyo. The fire that Arias had also impressed me, he went out there with power on all his punches and wouldnt let the other guy get away with rough house type tactics.

I am praying theyre are more events like this to come!!!!

Clark did not upset Arroyo. He fought somebody else

Canada · Post by **Canada** » 26 Apr 2008, 23:04

OOPS, I dont know what I was watching

Either way it was a great show

debc · Post by **debc** » 27 Apr 2008, 00:09

OOPS, I dont know what I was watching

I thought David Clark was also fighting Arroyo, since that was on the roster.

PRKO · Post by **PRKO** » 27 Apr 2008, 00:38

I really did not think niether Clark nor Rodriguez won those bouts. Marrero clearly outboxed Clark. But those judges were in favor of the national team, the rest of he bouts were ok.

Warren and Arias looked good. Negron is a beast he's the best out of the national team with the Arroyo brothers.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 27 Apr 2008, 00:48

But those judges were in favor of the national team,

Even the Puerto Rican AIBA?

NYboxing · Post by **NYboxing** » 27 Apr 2008, 01:02

Results - USA 9. Puerto Rico 2 (source USA Boxing)

Luis Yanez (USA) stopped Bryan Aquino (Puerto Rico), RSC-3
Jonathan Gonzalez (Puerto Rico) dec. Bruno Escalante (16-16 tiebreaker)
Rau’shee Warren (USA) stopped. Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico), RSC-3
David Clark (USA) dec. Hector Marrero (Puerto Rico); 29-24
Robert Rodriguez (USA) dec. Jorge Maysonet (Puerto Rico); 37-30
Sadam Ali (USA) dec. Reynaldo Ojeda (Puerto Rico); 40-20
Javier Molina (USA) stopped Luis Gonzalez (Puerto Rico), RSC-3
Javontae Starks (USA) dec. Ricardo Reyes (Puerto Rico); 32-14
Luis Arias (USA) stopped Enrique Collazo (Puerto Rico); RSC-3
Carlos Negron (Puerto Rico) stopped Siju Shabazz (USA), RSC-3
Kimdo Bethel (USA) dec. Juan Jacob (Puerto Rico); 28-5

PRKO · Post by **PRKO** » 27 Apr 2008, 02:03

boxmel wrote:
But those judges were in favor of the national team,
Even the Puerto Rican AIBA?

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Jejeje you know how it is Boxmel. I like the amateurs but that scoring system sucks.

JMac · Post by **JMac** » 27 Apr 2008, 02:22

I really did not think niether Clark nor Rodriguez won those bouts. Marrero clearly outboxed Clark

I totally disagree with you. I thought Clark boxed fantastic and clearly won.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 27 Apr 2008, 12:37

Jejeje you know how it is Boxmel. I like the amateurs but that scoring system sucks.

So you would prefer to go back to the 20-point must system where the judges can actively cheat and not get caught? You can 20-19 a boxer to a win on your score card without even counting punches. At least with the computer scoring system, you can see what each judge is doing. It's pretty obvious when a judge has his or her finger glued to a particular corner.

actionfan · Post by **actionfan** » 27 Apr 2008, 13:44

The computer system works well.It scores hard blows and not puff flurries that have no impact on the fight.Also, putting the scoring on big screens,as the USA nationals did in march,get the fans more invoved and make a much more interesting fight for the average fan.For this sport to succeed we need to bring more people in the fan base.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 27 Apr 2008, 13:55

The computer system works well.It scores hard blows and not puff flurries that have no impact on the fight.Also,

Actually, it's the judges who push the buttons for the "hard blows," not the scoring system.

And the criteria for scoring has never included "puff flurries."

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 27 Apr 2008, 19:12

Sounds like Team USA did awesome, that's great. I'm really looking forward to seeing these guys at the Olympics, they're going to surprise some of our rather overbearing European bretheren, I feel.

PRKO · Post by **PRKO** » 28 Apr 2008, 00:25

I don't know I've seen some horrible scoring overseas, especially in Europe. These judges seem to have something for Eastern-european-fighters, now I'm also seeing more asian fighters getting props. I don't know how in the world the guy who fought with Andrade in the final of the world championships got there in the first place.

If it would't have been for the Americas judges McWilliams nor Payano would have never beaten Bartelemy outside the continent of the Americas.

That's basically my problem with the amateurs.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 28 Apr 2008, 09:05

And you DON'T have a problem with pro scoring? Hmmm......

PRKO · Post by **PRKO** » 05 May 2008, 13:14

boxmel wrote:And you DON'T have a problem with pro scoring? Hmmm......

Sincerely I prefer the 10 point system.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 06 May 2008, 08:04

Sincerely I prefer the 10 point system.

20-point system is bad enough for cheating, let alone 10-point. I shudder at the thought.