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Robinson wrote:You guys have been immersed by such exciting history, and talented men.

Robby
Thanks for using the word"history". That's what this thread is:a history of the Southland using the sport of boxing as its catalyst. All the supplemental stuff complements and brings out a more meaningfull understanding of what life was like down here. Maybe some university will find this thread one day use it, and have their students require it as a textbook. I hope we copywrite it by then.
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It would be nice if the thread and its contents could be composed into an almanac.

I doubt I would be able to print it all of at work :P
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Tony Baltazar fighting some kid...1964
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Mickey Cohen's Haberdashery

Every summer J.Edgar Hoover and his second in command,Clyde Tolson would come out to Clint Murchison's(Texas oil magnate and owner of the Dallas Cowboys)Del Charro Hotel down in LaJolla to spend part of the racing season going to the Del Mar Racetrack. In the 60's and early 60's the Del Charro was a "high end" hotel. $150 a night. Murchison was friendly to Hoover "comping" him and Tolson for their stay. A lot of interesting characters would frequent the hotel:Richard Nixon,Frank Costello,Murcison's oil buddy H.L. Hunt(owner of the Dallas Texans),and Mickey Cohen. You think with Hoover and Tolson around those fellas' would be a little nervous. Well ,you've propbly heard the rumors about Hoover and Tolson. Here's a story that I was a witness to in the early 60's.

My father knew what was going on at the Del Charro. One big happy family. Costello and Cohen would "tip off" Hoover and Tolson on some of the races,and then they'd bet heavy and clean up. They thought that was wonderfull. My father told me ,to "kill the time", everyone would tease Hoover and Tolson like they were a couple of "lackeys". One day I go down to LaJolla Shores ,which is close to the Del Charro,with my father to visit Harry "The Barber". He's got a barber shop at the Shores. Harry and my father were pals from the old days in Chicago. Harry Bianconi knew what was up at the Del Charro too,but to guys like Harry and my father it was no big deal. In fact it was good always for a few laughs. During lunch time one day the Mexican maids from the Del Charro stopped by the Deli next to Harry's Barber Shop to get something to eat. I'm in Harry's with my father and they're talking about the old days back in Chicago. The maids start walking back and decide to say "hello" to Harry and my father.
"Senor Jose," one of the maids says to my father,"We make the beds for Meester Hoover and Meester Tolson. We go to their rooms. But Senor Jose,only one bed is sleeped in . The other bed no one sleep in thees bed."

No wonder the "mob" felt safe with the FBI during that time.
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Robinson wrote:It would be nice if the thread and its contents could be composed into an almanac.

I doubt I would be able to print it all of at work :P
I don't know how Frank and the other fellas' feel,but guys like you that see the thread this way,make me at least,feel proud. Thanks again. Dagos
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kikibalt wrote:Image
Tony Baltazar fighting some kid...1964
Frank,did Tony get DQ'd for hitting that kid when he was down? Tough little Baltazar!
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kikibalt wrote:Image
Allan Malamud

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Frank,

I used to read a lot of Bud Furillo's stuff. I liked what I read. I liked Furillo's writing style. Any pics or stories on Bud?
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dagosd2000 wrote:
Robinson wrote:It would be nice if the thread and its contents could be composed into an almanac.

I doubt I would be able to print it all of at work :P
I don't know how Frank and the other fellas' feel,but guys like you that see the thread this way,make me at least,feel proud. Thanks again. Dagos
I feel the same way diego, I'm proud to be part of this thread.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Tony Baltazar fighting some kid...1964
Frank,did Tony get DQ'd for hitting that kid when he was down? Tough little Baltazar!
diego,

Tony wasn't hitting him when he was down, it was a follow trough from the right hand knock down punch... :TU:
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dagosd2000 wrote:I used to read a lot of Bud Furillo's stuff. I liked what I read. I liked Furillo's writing style. Any pics or stories on Bud?
diego,

Don't know too much about Bud Furillo, met him one or twice, we did do one radio interview with him around 1966, I do have some pics. of him that I'll post.
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diego; remember this guy with Furillo; Bo Belinsky?

Belinsky was a baseball player and he was also a big playboy.
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JOHNSON NEAR KO BY MOORE
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By Matt Ring (The Bulletin - 1949)

The light-heavyweight class has known far better boxers than Archie Moore in the last 20 years, but few who could have surpassed the exhibition of power punching with which the 32-year-old veteran from Toledo, O., trounced the previously undefeated Harold Johnson, of Manayunk, at Convention Hall last night.

That Moore failed to score a knockout was not so much due to lack of accuracy or potency of his punching as it was to the stamina and gameness of his 21-year-old opponent.

Even so, Johnson barley managed to last the ten-round limit. He was knocked down twice in the seventh round and was out on his feet through most of the tenth.

To some of the 6,018 spectators, who paid $15,106.60, it looked as if Moore "let up" on Johnson in the closing minute. He was still swinging haymakers, however, up to the final bell, though missing many of them because Johnson's wobbly head refused to stay in place for him.

Moore's victory qualified him for the final of the National Boxing Association's four-man elimination tournament to establish an American light-heavyweight champion. He earned the right to meet the winner of a bout in Cincinnati May 23 between Joey Maxim and former world champion Gus Lesnevich for the national title.
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diego,

What the hell is going on in your neck of the woods?

Fourteen killed in Mexico drug battle near U.S.
By Lizbeth Diaz

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Fourteen Mexican drug gang members were killed and eight others were injured in a gun battle near the U.S. border on Saturday that was one of the bloodiest shootouts in Mexico's three-year-long narco-war.

Rival factions of the local Arellano Felix drug cartel in Tijuana on the Mexico-California border fought each other with rifles and machine guns in the early hours of the morning, police said.

The bodies lay in pools of blood, strewn along a road on the city's eastern limits, surrounded by hundreds of bullet casings. Many of the victims' faces were destroyed.

"By the way this happened and the guns used, we believe the men are from the same cartel, the Arellano Felix gang," said a senior police officer in Tijuana who declined to be named.

Two of the dead are believed to be senior hitmen for the Arellano Felix cartel and were identified by the large gold rings on their fingers. The rings carried the icon of Saint Death, a ghoulish grim reaper figure that gangsters believe protects them, police said.

Officials also found police helmets and body armor that the two hitmen used for protection.

Six men were arrested but the remaining survivors escaped, the office said.

A source close to the Tijuana mayor's office said local authorities had requested more troops for the city bordering San Diego, California, and that they could arrive this weekend.

President Felipe Calderon has sent thousands of troops to Tijuana and Baja California state on Mexico's Pacific coast since taking office in December 2006. Some 25,000 soldiers and federal police are deployed to fight cartels in drug hot spots across Mexico.

The army in Tijuana said it was on high alert for reprisals against soldiers and federal police following the shootout and the ensuing arrest.

"The risk of attacks against our agents after an event like this is extremely high," said Lt. Col Julian Leyzaola, Tijuana's police chief.

The Arellano Felix gang was long the dominant drug-trafficking organization in Tijuana, smuggling drugs into California. Recently the group has been under attack from a rival gang from the Pacific state of Sinaloa, led by Mexico's most wanted man, Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman.

Some 190 people have been killed in Tijuana so far this year. In 2007, there were more than 2,500 drug killings across Mexico and there have been more than 900 this year.

(Writing by Robin Emmott; Editing by Bill Trott)
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Frank . . . Thanks for posting the great story on Mickey Cohen. I remember seeing him ringside at the Olympic for those big thursday night cards. I know that he and Aileen Eaton were very close.

I'm just catching up on this weeks posts. I try to stay up, however, I'm working vey long hours.

The stories you are posting are great!

-Rick
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I have to say that this thread takes more twist and turns then any other I ever been involved with.

One subject to another

I loved it... :)
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Rick Farris wrote:Frank . . . Thanks for posting the great story on Mickey Cohen. I remember seeing him ringside at the Olympic for those big thursday night cards. I know that he and Aileen Eaton were very close.

I'm just catching up on this weeks posts. I try to stay up, however, I'm working vey long hours.

The stories you are posting are great!

-Rick
Thanks Rick; don't stay away... :TU:
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Bud Furillo, with Bill Cosby and Hedgemon Lewis
What was Hedgemon like as a fighter? He got done by Stracey I know but was right at the end of his career and I would like to know more about his peak years.
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kikibalt wrote:Image
Bud Furillo, with Bill Cosby and Hedgemon Lewis
What was Hedgemon like as a fighter? He got done by Stracey I know but was right at the end of his career and I would like to know more about his peak years.
Bennie,

Lewis was a good boxer, he was been called the next Sugar Ray Robinson,
like I said good boxer, but not strong enough to keep guys like Napoles, Lopez and Muniz off him.
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kikibalt wrote:diego,

What the hell is going on in your neck of the woods?

Fourteen killed in Mexico drug battle near U.S.
By Lizbeth Diaz

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Fourteen Mexican drug gang members were killed and eight others were injured in a gun battle near the U.S. border on Saturday that was one of the bloodiest shootouts in Mexico's three-year-long narco-war.

Rival factions of the local Arellano Felix drug cartel in Tijuana on the Mexico-California border fought each other with rifles and machine guns in the early hours of the morning, police said.

The bodies lay in pools of blood, strewn along a road on the city's eastern limits, surrounded by hundreds of bullet casings. Many of the victims' faces were destroyed.

"By the way this happened and the guns used, we believe the men are from the same cartel, the Arellano Felix gang," said a senior police officer in Tijuana who declined to be named.

Two of the dead are believed to be senior hitmen for the Arellano Felix cartel and were identified by the large gold rings on their fingers. The rings carried the icon of Saint Death, a ghoulish grim reaper figure that gangsters believe protects them, police said.

Officials also found police helmets and body armor that the two hitmen used for protection.

Six men were arrested but the remaining survivors escaped, the office said.

A source close to the Tijuana mayor's office said local authorities had requested more troops for the city bordering San Diego, California, and that they could arrive this weekend.

President Felipe Calderon has sent thousands of troops to Tijuana and Baja California state on Mexico's Pacific coast since taking office in December 2006. Some 25,000 soldiers and federal police are deployed to fight cartels in drug hot spots across Mexico.

The army in Tijuana said it was on high alert for reprisals against soldiers and federal police following the shootout and the ensuing arrest.

"The risk of attacks against our agents after an event like this is extremely high," said Lt. Col Julian Leyzaola, Tijuana's police chief.

The Arellano Felix gang was long the dominant drug-trafficking organization in Tijuana, smuggling drugs into California. Recently the group has been under attack from a rival gang from the Pacific state of Sinaloa, led by Mexico's most wanted man, Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman.

Some 190 people have been killed in Tijuana so far this year. In 2007, there were more than 2,500 drug killings across Mexico and there have been more than 900 this year.

(Writing by Robin Emmott; Editing by Bill Trott)

Thanks first on the Furillo pics. He seemed like he made friends easy.

As far as Mexico goes ,it's very simple. I'll set it up for you. When the hippies and the Beatles and young kids here in college and high school started doing drugs,Mexico had a panic attack. Mexico knew that their kids would copy anything the kids on the U.S. side were doing. Music,dress,movies and TV. When the kids here started smoking pot,the hand writing was on the wall for Mexico. I remember if you crossed the border with long hair,the TJ cops would pull you over and it was off to the barber shop. Then the cops would tell you thet they"discovered" marijuana in your car! 200 dollar fine.

But if the U.S. would have put the brakes on it here,Mexico and all of Latin America wouldn't of had a source to cross all the dope.. Drugs ,now, is running their country. NAFTA made it easier to ship the drugs here. Don't let no one kid you,the U.S. is up to their "alligators" with this too. Here's a couple of examples. Just after NAFTA,U.S. Custom Agent at San Ysidro had their hands full inspecting Mexican commercial trucks. One time back in 94 custom guys had their dogs sniff out cocaine on a Mexican semi. The "Watch Commander",Art Gilmore,lets the driver run back into Mexico. The Custom guys here smell a rat. They start documenting their boss. He's letting "certain" trucks cross without being inspected. So the Custom Officers go to the Federal DA's office in downtown San Diego. They state their case to the DA who handles narcotic cases. Not one grand jury,no investigation,no supenoas. The DA's name. Alan Bersin,Clinton's pal at Yale,and later becomes the Superintendent of the San Diego Unified School District.

Here's another. I had this boy in my class a while back. He's 17 and falls in love with this girl in class who's old man is one of the biggest "narco trafficantes" in Mexico. He's working with Caro Quintero. The two get married. Well the boy's father owns a brokerage house on this side. I warn this kid to stay away from your wife's old man. He'll ask you to smuggle for him. Well that's what happened. Imagine asking your son in law to be a drug trafficker.
The kid is telling me everything is taken care of. The Mexican feds are paid off,our Custom guys are on the take,and him and his brother in law are smuggling 200 kilos across every weekend. Imagine getting your son working for you smuggling drugs.
Well one night the two are driving along Old Highway 80 just on the U.S. side after smuggling 200 kilos. They get pulled over by a Highway Patroman. The truck has a tail light out. The kids get panicky. The Highway Patrol Officer suspects something and searches the semi. Busted!

Now the two kids have to go to Federal court in San Diego. The kid wants me to write the court a 'character' letter saying he's a nice kid. I ask the the kid if they're going to ask him to make deal and inform on the operation. Come on,the kid was only a driver. The kid emphatically says no way the Feds are going to investigate. And the kid tells me not to put anything about the operation in my letter to the court. The judge wants to hear nothing of it. I know the judges' name. He's still down here.

Well the kid and his brother in law take the "fall" for this and each get 8 years in some Federal pen in Oregon. They let the two out on a work detail,and the kid's wife's father ,who's the head of the smugging ring, drives by and pulls his son into a car and they take off to Mexico. His son in law doesn't get invited for the ride. The kid's wife divorces him,his father's brockerage house is investigated for the next ten years by every agency from the DEA to the FBI to the IRS.His old man dies of a heart attack from all the stress and that's the story. What ever happened to "Father Knows Best?"
Now Mexico is run by the drug traffickers and now the Mexican kids look like they all need a haircut.


You asked me about Bo Belinsky? Yeah,had good stuff. I think his girlfriends would second that. Oh Oh. I'm staring down at the pool. There's some good stuuf that just arrived. I'm gonna' take a break and go down there and throw those two little numbers a couple of curves.
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kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Frank . . . Thanks for posting the great story on Mickey Cohen. I remember seeing him ringside at the Olympic for those big thursday night cards. I know that he and Aileen Eaton were very close.

I'm just catching up on this weeks posts. I try to stay up, however, I'm working vey long hours.

The stories you are posting are great!

-Rick
Thanks Rick; don't stay away... :TU:
Hey Rick
Bring Gato back with you. I've got his painting done.
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