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Expug wrote:
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Expug wrote: Yeah, that guy is probably one of those guys who could start a fight in an empty room.
I just thought of something. Hire guys like this to be school teachers. I guarantee there'd be no more discipline problems. Howqever I don't know what kind of subjects they'd teach the kiddies.
Ya notice that the guy on the far right.
Even his bandages are wrapped like an extended middle finger.
He could for sure teach a class on defiance.
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You know all those fellas must have been well behaved in school. In reform school if you misbehave,they throw you in the hole. But then again,maybe those guys liked it in there.

Promised the wife and grand kids and their parents that I'd take them for pizza. There's a place called"Bronx Pizza". These guys are Italian from the Bronx. They know how to make pizza. They've got photos on the wall of fighters and mugs like these guys. I feel right at home.
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diego/pug,

Here is one more of the homies
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I remember when I went to military school, late at night we would make a ring in the dormitory with the bunk beds.
Just push them into a square.
Guys would fight it out in the center. The other guys would sit on the beds shining flashlights for light.
It was our own little Olympic Auditorium.
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You guys remember Johnny Stompanato?
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diego/pug,

Here is one more of the homies
Sometimes I have to send a kid to the Principal's office. Sometimes I see them sitting out side on the bench waiting to have the Principal yell at them. Some of the kids are crying.I think these guys enjoyed going to the Principal's office.
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You guys remember Johnny Stompanato?
Got stabbed to death by a 14 year old girl.Couldn't have been that tough.
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Here's Johnny!!!

Mickey Cohen views the body of Johnny Stompanato.

I'm sure you guys know how Stomanato died.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
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You guys remember Johnny Stompanato?
Got stabbed to death by a 14 year old girl.Couldn't have been that tough.
Lana Turner's daughter.
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kikibalt wrote:Image
Here's Johnny!!!

Mickey Cohen views the body of Johnny Stompanato.

I'm sure you guys know how Stomanato died.
Lana Turner sure had an appetite for surly men. Too bad I never got to know her.
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dagosd2000 wrote:Lana Turner sure had an appetite for surly men. Too bad I never got to know her.
I'm sure she would have liked you, diego.
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Lana Turner sure had an appetite for surly men. Too bad I never got to know her.
I'm sure she would have liked you, diego.
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I denote a hint of sarcasm. Anyway she was before my time.
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diego; remember this guy with Furillo; Bo Belinsky?

Belinsky was a baseball player and he was also a big playboy.
I remember him playing with the Angels. He was running around with Mamie Van Dorn for awhile.
Rick
She's certainly better looking than Bud Furillo.
You bet, Dagos! I met Bud Furrillo and Allen Malamud the night I scored a KO on the undercard of the Buchanan-Navarro Lightweight title fight. A couple weeks later Malamud did a story for the Sunday Herald-Examiner on my father and I.

I really liked them both, and consider Malamud one of the best boxing writers I ever read. Allen was a guy who spent a lot of time at the gym, and even dated Jerry Quarry's sister, Diane, for awhile. He had a keen eye for boxing talent and great wit.

I'm in the process of moving, buy have a lot of Malamud and Furillo clips from the sixties and seventies. And of course, the great Jim Murray. These guys could do so much with words. The truth is, they KNEW what they were talking about.

Is it just me, or do today's sports writers fall short of the quality that was such a part of past eras? Long before the Murray's & Malamuds, there was Grantland Rice, Bud Schulberg, Damon Runyon. These were guys who had to paint a picture with words, with no TV or video footage available.

Dagos, I miss those old writer's discriptive terms, such as "Whistling left hook", or the word "Iced" for KO'ed, etc. Today, something is lost?

-Rick
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I received these photos from Jim Glen

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(left - right), Former Scottish fighter and Scot's Boxing HOF board member Toby Dixon, former World Light-Heavyweight contender Freddie Mack 'founder' Scots Boxing HOF, Bert Gilroy's youngest son Ernie Rea in reception of Gilroy's WBHOF Bronze induction statue...


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Bert's grandson Martin Rea and my wife Catherine Glen at the graveside ceremony...


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Myself (Jim Glen), being interviewed at the ceremony by Jim Black one of Scotland's leading reporters.



some more to come over the next week or so after newspaper coverage.
Yours, Jim Glen.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Here's Johnny!!!

Mickey Cohen views the body of Johnny Stompanato.

I'm sure you guys know how Stomanato died.
Yeah. Wonder if the daughter really did it? Lots of speculation.

-Rick
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Lana Turner sure had an appetite for surly men. Too bad I never got to know her.
I'm sure she would have liked you, diego.
Frank
I denote a hint of sarcasm. Anyway she was before my time.
diego, you know better then that, sarcasm?, no way, the reason I said that is because she liked all men, she couldn't say no.
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"THE FORMOSA" . . .

Dagos, this Chinese restaurant was a Hollywood mob hangout where both Mickey Cohen and Stumpanato would occasionally frequent. The place is still there on the South-East corner of Santa Monica Blvd.. & Formosa, right across the street from what is now Warner-Hollywood Studios, formerly the Sam Goldwyn Studio lot.

Lots of history at the old Formosa. Lana Turner and Stumpanato (excuse the incorrect speling) would meet there, just blocks from Mickey Cohens Men's store.

-Rick
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Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Here's Johnny!!!

Mickey Cohen views the body of Johnny Stompanato.

I'm sure you guys know how Stomanato died.
Yeah. Wonder if the daughter really did it? Lots of speculation.

-Rick
I would think so.
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kikibalt wrote:
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kikibalt wrote: I'm sure she would have liked you, diego.
Frank
I denote a hint of sarcasm. Anyway she was before my time.
diego, you know better then that, sarcasm?, no way, the reason I said that is because she liked all men, she couldn't say no.
Hey Buddy
I've got some Golden Rules. One is I'll never get mad at you. I'm serious now. I can't put it into words right now.
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The Sweater Girl!
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Lana Turner was born Julia Jean Mildred Francis Turner in Wallace, Idaho. There is some discrepancy as to whether her birth date is February 8, 1920 or 1921. Lana herself said in her autobiography that she was one year younger (1921) than the records showed, but then this was a time where women, especially actresses, tended to "fib" a bit about their age. Most sources agree that 1920 is the correct year of birth.

In 1929, her father was murdered and it was shortly thereafter her mother moved her and the family to California where jobs were "plentiful". Once she matured into a beautiful young woman, she sought after something that would last forever. Stardom. She wasn't found at a drug store counter like some would have you believe, but the legend persists. She pounded the pavement that other would be actors and actresses have done in search of movie roles.

In 1937, Lana entered the movie world, at 17, with small parts in THEY WON'T FORGET, THE GREAT GARRICK, and A STAR IS BORN. The films didn't bring Lana a lot of notoriety, but it was a start.

In 1938, Lana had another small part in LOVE FINDS ANDY HARDY starring Mickey Rooney. It was this film that made young men's hearts all over America fluttering at the sight of this alluring and provocative young woman, known as the "Sweater Girl". One look at that film could make you understand why. Lana was one of the most beautiful newcomers to grace the silver screen in years.

By the 1940's Lana was firmly entrenched in the film colony. Good roles found her in such films as JOHNNY EAGER (1941), SOMEWHERE I'LL FIND YOU (1942), and WEEKEND AT THE WALDORF (1945).

Her private life, however, was a super mess. It kept Lana in the news in a way no one would have wanted. Without a doubt it was career threatening. She was married eight times, twice to Steve Crane. She also married Ronald Dante, Robert Eaton, Fred May, Lex Barker, Henry Topping, and to Artie Shaw. She also battled alcoholism.

Her daughter by Crane, Cheryl, murdered boyfriend Johnny Stompanato in 1958. It was a case that would have rivaled the O.J. Simpson murder case today. Her daughter was acquitted with the court ruling it justifiable homicide. All these interfered with her acting career, but she persevered.

The 1959 release of IMITATION OF LIFE was Lana's comeback vehicle. Her performance was flawless as Lora Meredith, an actress struggling to make it in show business with a young daughter, her housekeeper and the housekeeper's rebellious daughter. The film was a box-office success and proved beyond a doubt that Lana had not lost her edge.

By the 1960's, she had fewer roles coming her way with the rise of new and younger stars. She still turned in memorable roles in such films as PORTRAIT IN BLACK (1960) and BACHELOR IN PARADISE (1961). By the next decade the roles were coming in at a trickle.

Her last appearance in a big screen production was in 1980's WITCHES' BREW. Her final film work came in the acclaimed TV series FALCON CREST where she played Jacqueline Perrault from 1982-1983. After all those years as a heartthrob, nothing had changed. Lana was still as beautiful as ever and just as talented.

Lana died June 25, 1995 in Culver City, California after a long bout with cancer. She was 75 years old.
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Rick Farris wrote:"THE FORMOSA" . . .

Dagos, this Chinese restaurant was a Hollywood mob hangout where both Mickey Cohen and Stumpanato would occasionally frequent. The place is still there on the South-East corner of Santa Monica Blvd.. & Formosa, right across the street from what is now Warner-Hollywood Studios, formerly the Sam Goldwyn Studio lot.

Lots of history at the old Formosa. Lana Turner and Stumpanato (excuse the incorrect speling) would meet there, just blocks from Mickey Cohens Men's store.

-Rick
I took a ride west on North ave in Chicago this evening towards Elmwood park.
Lotta old mob hangouts in this area.
One joint Hoagies pub which Ive eaten at many times was managed by Michael Spilotro who was Bob Conrads buddy. Conrad would stop in there when in town.
Michael was whacked with his brother Tony. The murder was depicted in the cornfield in the movie casino.
The two guys were baseball batted in the flick.
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my favorite Lana Turner flick was "The Postman Always Rings Twice"
also staring John Garfield.
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Rick Farris wrote:"Irish" Frankie Crawford, a memory . . .

In early 1971, veteran featherweight contender, Frankie Crawford challenged world champ Sho Saijyo for his title in Japan. During the match, Crawford dropped Saijyo, and in the eyes of many had upset the Japanese champion, who would win by a narrow decision.

At the time, I was boxing prelims in L.A. and had worked in the gym with Crawford on several occasions. Frankie lived in North Hollywood at the time, along with his wife, Diane, and his two toddler sons, Frankie Jr. and Jeff.

Crawford was one of these guys who had a hard time holding onto a driver's license, and would occasionally need a ride to the gym. I lived close by, in Burbank, and gave Frank rides to the gym a few times, and it was on these short excursions, that I would get to know a very unique person . That's how I will describe Frankie Crawford - UNIQUE.

On one such occasion, Crawford and his trainer, Jimmy Gambina, were working out at the ELKS Bldg. which is a massive building that sits to this day, as it has for the past 85 years, directly across the street from MacArthur Park. Today, it is no longer the Elks Bldg., it's the "Park Plaza Hotel", and is currently closed for renovations.

I was working out at the Elks Club also, and Frankie and I would spar together, which to led my giving him rides to the gym. One day, I arrived at Crawford's apartment, and, as usual, toot the horn to let him know I'm waiting. After five minutes I realize that Frankie isn't coming, so I park and go to his front door. When I knock, Diane opens the door and is obviously upset. She's shaking her head and when I ask "What's wrong?", she shrugs her shoulders and pointed across the room to her husband, sitting on the couch smoking a cigarette.

"Hey, are you ready to go?" I ask. Crawford starts to ramble about how his wife could be so stupid as to forget to pay the gas bill, which she says he has never given her money for, despite a recent title challenge, etc. etc. Crawford was mad that she couldn't cook his breakfast, or whatever?

As we step outside, Crawford tells me he needs to pay his gas bill before we hit the gym and I say "OK, where do I take you to pay it?"

"It's just down on the corner of Mgnolia and Burbank Blvd.", he answers. When I reach the intersection, I ask him, "Where's the gas company?" Crawford turns to me, cocks his head to the side, and in his deep voice answers, "It's right there, on the corner", he laughs, "what are you f_cking blind?"

"What corner?", I ask, I don't see any Gas Company, just gas stations, one on each corner".

Once again, Crawford looks at me like I'm blind or stupid, and says, "So what's the problem, you got your choice, Standard, Texaco, 76, or Shell. Now I'm really confused.

"Frankie, I don't need gas". Crawford says, "So what? I came to pay the f_cking bill, remember?" I suddenly realized that Crawford believed he could pay the bill at a gas station, and I started to laugh. Now it was my turn to have some fun.

When we pull into the station Crawford jumps out of the car and runs over to a young gas station attendant, a kid of 17 or 18, red hair, skinny, pimple faced with a big adams apple. Frankie moves straight to the kid and hands him the bill along with a wad of cash. I couldn't hear what was said, but the kid appeared to be listening as Crawford talked. A moment later the boy shook his head "NO" as Crawford forced him to take the money and the bill.

When the kid refused the money, the fighter became irate. Frankie threw his arms in the air, turned, and headed back to my car. Before opening the car door, he looks back at the gangly kid, gives him the finger and kicks the gas pump beside him.

I was laying on the seat, unable to control my laughter. Crawford was really mad and I asked him, what happened?

The fighter just shook his head, and replied, "That's the problem with this world . . . nobody wants to do their job!"

We went to the gym, boxed, and on the way home, I showed where he could pay his gas bill. The next day he seemed happy enough. I guess he got his breakfast.

Much more on Frankie Crawford to come.


-Rick Farris
Rick,

Great story on Frankie C.
Sad and funny at the same time.
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