Training the jab

[Robinson]

What methods and approaches have you guys noticed, seen etc of ways of working and training the jab.

I know 'throwing it over and over' is an obvious answer...was just curious to know if any greats or near greats had ways of training it...

Thanks

Kym

[raylawpc]

What methods and approaches have you guys noticed, seen etc of ways of working and training the jab.

I know 'throwing it over and over' is an obvious answer...was just curious to know if any greats or near greats had ways of training it...

Thanks

Kym

I read once that Floyd Patterson used to try and catch flies with a jab like motion. The idea was to increase his speed and timing.

Bob Fitzsimmons had some kind of visualization approach. As I understand it, Fitz would essentially meditate that he was drowning in the ocean when he sees a piece of wood, and then would thrust his left arm out to grab it and save himself.

[granberry]

This is hilarious.

I can't wait for for more breathtaking demonstrations of expertise by you boxing "experts."

LOL

I will tell some of my longtime boxing friends who have computers to be sure to tune in on this thread for some bellylaughs.

Go to it, clueless ones.

You couldn't have picked a more fundamental aspect of boxing to demonstrate your total cluelessness.

[raylawpc]

We are always happy to add some measure of joy to your day, Granberry. Glad to hear you have some friends, too.

[m1kee50]

As someone who has never claimed any ability, all I have to offer is this - visualise throwing it - properly - as well as practising the actual movements.

There was a study (which I cant locate online), where they asked Basketball players to visualise the techniques they would use.
They were of a certain standard already.

One Control group neither physically trained nor visualised.
Another group only trained physically.
A Third only visualised.
A final group visualised and practised.

The fourth group, as expected, performed best, but the third group outperformed the second, which apparently was not expected.

Granberry - I would have thought you would enjoy the imparting of such historical information - I noticed you did not leap to correct it for once, so may I assume that it is accurate?

I don't see how anecdotal tales of how champions used to train is to be taken as Ray demonstrating his expertise.
My telling you the speed of sound doesn't make me a scientist, it just means I can read.

[granberry]

Matthew wrote:

Granberry - I would have thought you would enjoy the imparting of such historical information - I noticed you did not leap to correct it for once, so may I assume that it is accurate?

I foolishly came to this thread thinking I might post something about what a left jab is and how it is used by top level fighters--both from first hand instruction and discussion given to me by Louis, Harold Johnson, Georgie Benton, Holly Mims, etc etc---and by very specific explanations from George Dixon, Joe Gans, Mike Gibbons, and others, etc that I have been lucky enough to unearth.
Not to mention what is visible from watching Tommy Loughran, Liston, Harold Johnson, Jim Corbett, Sammy Mandell and other great users of the jab.

I have a huge article by one of Corbett's trainers actually covering several large pages in a magazine laying out everything Corbett did in throwing a left jab.

Not to mention WHERE you aim your punch, and WHEN, and the various uses of the punch to set up other things.

There is nothing more fundamental to boxing than the jab, except for

1--Keep your eyes open

2--Hold your stance (balance)

Once I saw how clueless the first two posts here were, I realized my intended post was hopeless, since ANY discussion of what boxing actually is, is hopeless on sites like this, where the clueless revel.

I don't see how anecdotal tales of how champions used to train is to be taken as Ray demonstrating his expertise.

Poor ray screwed up a simple quote from Gene Tunney's writing where Tunney was discussing Fitz' ability to put everything behind a single knockout punch.

ray got so confused that he thinks Tunney was discussing a left jab.

[harrygreb]

an old man once told me that when you throw a left jab you gotta imagine an alligator has just bitten your balls off. at least thats what i thought he said, he was extremely drunk.

[Expug]

What methods and approaches have you guys noticed, seen etc of ways of working and training the jab.

I know 'throwing it over and over' is an obvious answer...was just curious to know if any greats or near greats had ways of training it...

Thanks

Kym

Kym , I found working the pads with a good trainer, who knows how to work them , is very helpful. Hes gotta move well though.
I improved mine doin alot of extra rounds on the heavybag also.
It sounds simple, but concentration on these drills really helped.
I had a pretty good jab.
Good chin too. Problem is thats about all I had.

[Robinson]

Pug,
Thats better than what I have mate :P

Thanks again guys. All the info one can get can not hurt. Its always interesting to hear other peoples approaches and how they develop some tging so fundamental. Not to mention how the basic punch of the sport, has so many different species to it in different fighters.

Kym