Connecticut Classic - USA Boxing event to be televised

[boxman]

I was at the show that Porter vs. Arias happened and it was the most entertaining amateur bout I have witnessed in many years. Arias, for a young guy showed lots of guts and determination and Porter was simply awesome. Porter to me fights a style that is taylor made for success at the next level (pro).

[boxmel]

that he appears to have more standing s points than any boxer in any weight class (but, in fairness, the Olympian's points are not shown).

Umm - not sure what you mean by "standing s points?"

[bigpicture]

If you review the "Rankings" section and 4th Qtr, 2007 Men's Rankings, you will see a points number after each name. This ranking or "standings" as it is often called in some sports and some countries (that I am more familiar with) is usually indicative of two things,: a) participation, and, b) success in competition. I don't know how USA Boxing does it, but, it's usually a pretty good measure of performance until the last days of a pro career, when skills diminish.

I note that Louis Arias is not ranked in the top ten as of January 1. I don't know why (perhaps his age?), but am still sure that the match will be great.

Speaking of standings though.... I'd love to see Estrada's points for example, considering his penchant for disqualifications and referee point deductions in competitions. I saw him in Chicago and he was horrible, sorry to say. Lucky to get to as far as he did.

Big

[boxmel]

The yearly rankings usually start after the U.S. Championships in March; the rankings now shown on the USA Boxing web site are not current. Ranking points are accumulated by how you place in national competitions (U.S. Championships, Golden Gloves and National PAL), i.e, if you win you get 100 points. Points are also given for competing in a dual meet and for how you place in international tournaments, i.e, Worlds, Pan Ams. The Olympians will stay at #1 in the rankings this year because they are Olympians. Hope that helps.

[Dennis]

The yearly rankings usually start after the U.S. Championships in March; the rankings now shown on the USA Boxing web site are not current. Ranking points are accumulated by how you place in national competitions (U.S. Championships, Golden Gloves and National PAL), i.e, if you win you get 100 points. Points are also given for competing in a dual meet and for how you place in international tournaments, i.e, Worlds, Pan Ams. The Olympians will stay at #1 in the rankings this year because they are Olympians. Hope that helps.

They give 100 points to the winner of the NGG and NPAL, but the winner of the US Chp gets 150 points. As far as the US Championships goes, the 3rd & 4th place boxers get as many points as the winner of the NGG and NPAL. The 5th-8th place boxers get the same points as the runner-ups of the NGG and NPAL. USA Boxing decides what points to assess for international competitions. If it is an internationa dual not hosted by USA Boxing, no points are typically awarded. An example would be the ones in Harvey, IL. USA Boxing did not award any points for the World Golden Gloves. You also do not get any points for competing in the Ringside tournament in August.

I believe the current ranking point system is as follows:

US Championships: 1st – 150 pts., 2nd – 120 pts., 3rd & 4th – 100 pts., 5th – 8th – 75 pts.

Other National Tournaments, Nat’l GG & Nat’l PAL: 100 pts – 1st, 75 pts – 2nd, 50 pts – 3rd & 4th, 25 pts – 5th – 8th.

International competition (duals): 30 pts for entering and 30 pts for each victory on top of initial 30 pts for entering the competition

International tournaments: Points to be determined by USA Boxing

[boxmel]

US Championships: 1st – 150 pts., 2nd – 120 pts., 3rd & 4th – 100 pts., 5th – 8th – 75 pts.

When did the points get upped for the Championships?

USA Boxing did not award any points for the World Golden Gloves.

It was not an AIBA event.

You also do not get any points for competing in the Ringside tournament in August.

It is a national invitational, non-advancing tournament.

[Dennis]

You also do not get any points for competing in the Ringside tournament in August.

It is a national invitational, non-advancing tournament.

Just like the National PAL!

[Dennis]

US Championships: 1st – 150 pts., 2nd – 120 pts., 3rd & 4th – 100 pts., 5th – 8th – 75 pts.

When did the points get upped for the Championships?

It started at the beginning of 2006. The '06 US Championships received the higher ranking points.

[boxmel]

Just like the National PAL!

Dennis - "non-advancing" means does not lead to international competition (page 6). Since the PAL is (1) a ranking tournament and (2) is part of the Olympic Trials qualifying system, it can lead to international competition. The Desert Showdown, the Ohio State Fair, the Ringside tournament, Black Gloves, etc., are all non-advancing tournaments.

[Dennis]

I hope the Olympic Trials selection process goes back to the way it used to be instead of the way it went this Olympic cycle.

[boxmel]

I hope the Olympic Trials selection process goes back to the way it used to be instead of the way it went this Olympic cycle.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kidscoach]

I too think the selection process should go back to the way it used to be. I wonder who will determine the televised bouts for this Connecticut Classic, what time will it be aired, what day. All the good stuff. I'm excited that more boxing is being televised. We need more exposure of these talented young men and women.

[Canada]

How did the olympic trials slection used to work?

[boxmel]

How did the olympic trials slection used to work?

For the 2004 Olympics:

2003 Golden Gloves, U. S. Challenge and National PAL champions; Western and Eastern Trials champions, Armed Services champions, and gold and silver medalists from U.S. Championships. Those 8 champions got a slot in the Olympic Trials.

[Canada]

Thanks, that sounds like a much better selection process in my opinion.

Does that mean that if a fighter was to win any one of those events they would not allowed to enter the others?

[Dennis]

Thanks, that sounds like a much better selection process in my opinion.

Does that mean that if a fighter was to win any one of those events they would not allowed to enter the others?

If someone won the Natl GG, they could still enter the US Championships or the Natl PAL but not the Eastern or Western trials.

[boxmel]

Does that mean that if a fighter was to win any one of those events they would not allowed to enter the others?

They could enter as many as they wanted, but they had to make a choice as to what team they would represent at the Trials. Several silver medalists made it to the Trials because of this.

[debc]

Anybody have information on the Ct. Classic being televised. When and where?

[NYboxing]

here at the match-ups for the event (source - Connecticut Post)

National Feature Bout
1.Shawn Porter (Stow, Ohio)-165-Luis Arias (Milwaukee)

International Bouts
2.Robenilson Vieria* (Brazil)-119-David Clark (San Diego)
3.Silamu Hanati* (China)-152-Jeremiah Wiggins (Norfolk, Va.)
4.Yamaguchi Florentino (Brazil)-165-Cruse Stewart (Davenport, Iowa)
5.Abulikemu Abudurehemen (China)-178-Siju Shabazz (Las Cruces, N.M.)
6.Washington Silva* (Brazil)-178-Lionell Thompson (Buffalo, N.Y.)
7.Paulo Caravalho* (Brazil)-106-Luis Yanez* (Duncanville, Texas)
8.Robson Conceicao* (Brazil)-125-Gary Russell Jr.* (Capitol Heights, Md.)
9.Everton Lopes* (Brazil)-132-Sadam Ali* (Brooklyn, N.Y.)
10.Qiong Maimaitituersun* (China)-141J-avier Molina* (Commerce, Calif.)
11.Yushan Nijiati* (China)-201-Deontay Wilder* (Tuscaloosa, Ala.)


*2008 Olympians

Couldn't find any television on the event? Anybody?

[Kolya]

Some results are up on USA Boxing.

[NYboxing]

Results:

Luis Arias dec. Shawn Porter (3-0 - paper scoring)

David Clark (USA) dec. Robensilon Vieria (Brazil); (3-0 - paper scoring)
Silamu Hanati (China) dec. Jeremiah Wiggins (USA); (3-0 - paper scoring)
Yamaguchi Florentino (Brazil) dec. Cruse Stewart (USA); (3-0 - paper scoring)
Siju Shabazz (USA) dec. Abdureheman Abulkimu (China); (2-1 - paper scoring)
Washington Silva (Brazil) dec. Lionell Thompson (USA); 11-10
Luis Yanez (USA) dec. Paulo Carvalho (Brazil); 20-10
Gary Russell Jr. (USA) dec. Robson Conceicao (Brazil); 27-8
Everton Lopes (Brazil) dec. Sadam Ali (USA); 17-12
Deontay Wilder (USA) def. Nijiati Yushan (China); RSC-2

Source - USA Boxing

Javier Molina's fight was canceled when his opponent, Qiong Maimaitituersun of China, suffered a broken rib sparing the day before the event

(source - Connecticut Post)

[NYboxing]

According the the Connecticut Post - the event will be televised by NBC on Saturday, June 14th - check your local listings, and of course - CROSS YOUR FINGERS it will be televised as scheduled

[DCAmateurBoxing]

I spoke with the USA Boxing Events Dept while they were at the event. They weren't sure when it would be aired, but told me that they would give me the dates when they get back to Colorado. I will post their answer with the air date.

[NYboxing]

VCR Alert - According to my tv guide - they are going to televised this event on NBC at 3:00 PM Eastern daylight time on Saturday, June 14th. The broadcast is "only" schedule for an hour, but hey, amateur boxing on television, I will take it.

[Dennis]

Just a note. USA Boxing's website says it will be shown on Sunday, June 14th. Now there is obviously an error with that statement. Is it on Sunday or is it on the 14th? Sunday would be June 15th. Just check your TV guide.