Boxrec Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
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Ambling Alp
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how strange the welts of time and punches fade
and champions grow great with false repute.
true warriors through swarming waters wade
while lesser fighters walk a safer route.
the crowds they swoon when louis blasts his gun
and i in circus style between my teeth
catch his bolts and bullets one by one
and in return a stiff left poker i bequeath.
in market square we trade in leather goods
in knowledge of tomorrows setting sun
some state that fortune or misfortune
will cast the final die
but chance and luck voice no hollow battle cry
jack sharkey
and champions grow great with false repute.
true warriors through swarming waters wade
while lesser fighters walk a safer route.
the crowds they swoon when louis blasts his gun
and i in circus style between my teeth
catch his bolts and bullets one by one
and in return a stiff left poker i bequeath.
in market square we trade in leather goods
in knowledge of tomorrows setting sun
some state that fortune or misfortune
will cast the final die
but chance and luck voice no hollow battle cry
jack sharkey
Jack Dempsey's grave (Mount Calvary Cemetery, Portland, Oregon):BoxBuzz wrote:Fame is fleeting, but the boxing community owes this man his due.
This man deserves recognition.......period.
Far out in the wilds of Oregon,
On a lonely mountainside,
Where Columbia’s mighty waters
Roll down to the ocean side;
Where the giant fir and cedar
Are imaged in the wave,
O’ergrown with firs and lichens,
I found Jack Dempsey’s grave.
O Fame, why sleeps thy favored son
In wilds, in woods, in weeds,
And shall he ever thus sleep on,
Interred his valiant deeds.
‘Tis strange New York should thus forget
Its “bravest of the brave”
And in the fields of Oregon,
Unmarked leave Dempsey’s grave.
Note the incorrect year of death: he died in 1895 not 1896.
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Martin Sosa Cameron
- Heavyweight
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Martin Sosa Cameron
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Martin Sosa Cameron
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Martin Sosa Cameron
- Heavyweight
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..sosa..well, patterson didn't sit...in fact he got iup seven times and i think when the fight was stopped he was either on is feet or getting up.
our esteemed jersey joe, though he fought one of the great fights ever in his first bout with marciano sat quietly in the first round of the second, as he made plans for his retirement.
our esteemed jersey joe, though he fought one of the great fights ever in his first bout with marciano sat quietly in the first round of the second, as he made plans for his retirement.
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sockdolager
- Heavyweight
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pound was a lightweight. he fought in the golden gloves in 1921 but was beaten in the semis by a guy who called himself Kid Couplet. it is thought Couplet was a young ee cummings. (the KID went on to lose in the final to Nat Charre which is an anagram of Hart Crane!!!)
by the way granberry congrats for working out that the sonnet written by jack sharkey was a 13 line sonnet. if you read sharkeys book "this pug and poetry" he would often leave clues to authorship in his remarkable work. yes, this one is a little obvious but it was written at a time when jack wanted to blow the whole secret sonneteer thing wide open.
by the way granberry congrats for working out that the sonnet written by jack sharkey was a 13 line sonnet. if you read sharkeys book "this pug and poetry" he would often leave clues to authorship in his remarkable work. yes, this one is a little obvious but it was written at a time when jack wanted to blow the whole secret sonneteer thing wide open.
absolutely right!! but to be more accurate al weill, charlie goldman and tesla worked together in the early 1940's on a technique to enable punch power to be maximised and then doubled by harnessing the energy from the lights above the ring. apparently - and i'm not a physicist - they devised a kind of gravitational pull mindset that could do this.
when the blueprint was in their hands, weill cruelly confined tesla to a basement room and convinced goldman to try this technique on one of his fighters. several of goldmans guys were tested but only one managed to become so focused on the radiance of the ring lights that he became possessed with their energy, marciano of course.
in the first walcott fight rocky can clearly be seen in the 13th round gazing up almost imploring the lights to give him enough power to starch joe.
when the blueprint was in their hands, weill cruelly confined tesla to a basement room and convinced goldman to try this technique on one of his fighters. several of goldmans guys were tested but only one managed to become so focused on the radiance of the ring lights that he became possessed with their energy, marciano of course.
in the first walcott fight rocky can clearly be seen in the 13th round gazing up almost imploring the lights to give him enough power to starch joe.
i dont doubt that zivic could teach you things not found in any boxing manual but the last 3 years of his record has got more holes than a hedgehogs underpants.
i dont want to argue with one of the greatest ever but henry armstrong fought better men than fritzie.
one thing i'll give zivic, though. how he never told the world that he wrote "the grapes of wrath" is something very admirable indeed.
i dont want to argue with one of the greatest ever but henry armstrong fought better men than fritzie.
one thing i'll give zivic, though. how he never told the world that he wrote "the grapes of wrath" is something very admirable indeed.