mundine at middleweight

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 01 May 2008, 22:08

Maybe he will invite Mundine to fight him in America or Europe.

Beltane · Post by **Beltane** » 02 May 2008, 00:19

Daman looked pretty fit on TV last night, sporting one of the worst haircuts in living memory, after his training stint in the good ole USA. But if he really has any intentions about dropping down to middleweight, the next bout against Sam at that level would have beeen a good indication on how he would go.

At middleweight, Sam would test him good and proper and not be out-gunned in giving away weight and size.

amwsnw · Post by **amwsnw** » 05 May 2008, 10:14

I posted a topic on current scene regarding a story on Sky Channel (Sky KO). I am not sure of it's validity but it says Mundine v Soliman is not being sanction by the WBA, is not for the title and Mundine will move to Middleweight after the fight...it went on to say Mundine had relinquished the belt......as I said, not sure how true it is...any enlighten me.

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 06 May 2008, 07:22

If Soliman beats Mundine (stranger things have happened, nobody expected Jersey Joe Walcott to take Ezzard Charles heavyweight title, especially as in the preceding years Walcott had lost twice to Charles and once to Rex Layne), what happens to that theory? A 12 x 3 minute rounds fight where both men make the weight, if the challenger wins, especially if the challenger KOs the Champion, could be embarrassing if the title is held up.

Ross · Post by **Ross** » 06 May 2008, 22:57

amwsnw wrote:I posted a topic on current scene regarding a story on Sky Channel (Sky KO). I am not sure of it's validity but it says Mundine v Soliman is not being sanction by the WBA, is not for the title and Mundine will move to Middleweight after the fight...it went on to say Mundine had relinquished the belt......as I said, not sure how true it is...any enlighten me.

If WBA is not sanctioning this good for them and for us, finally mundine may be forced into fighting someone rated in the top ten at SM, no disrespect to Sam but he is a middle weight at best and should fight mund at that weight as was said earlier.
ross

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 06 May 2008, 23:22

Ross wrote:
amwsnw wrote:I posted a topic on current scene regarding a story on Sky Channel (Sky KO). I am not sure of it's validity but it says Mundine v Soliman is not being sanction by the WBA, is not for the title and Mundine will move to Middleweight after the fight...it went on to say Mundine had relinquished the belt......as I said, not sure how true it is...any enlighten me.

If WBA is not sanctioning this good for them and for us, finally mundine may be forced into fighting someone rated in the top ten at SM, no disrespect to Sam but he is a middle weight at best and should fight mund at that weight as was said earlier.
ross

He is going down to middle so he doesn't have to fight Kessler again...

toppity · Post by **toppity** » 07 May 2008, 01:47

Marlin wrote:
Ross wrote:
amwsnw wrote:I posted a topic on current scene regarding a story on Sky Channel (Sky KO). I am not sure of it's validity but it says Mundine v Soliman is not being sanction by the WBA, is not for the title and Mundine will move to Middleweight after the fight...it went on to say Mundine had relinquished the belt......as I said, not sure how true it is...any enlighten me.

If WBA is not sanctioning this good for them and for us, finally mundine may be forced into fighting someone rated in the top ten at SM, no disrespect to Sam but he is a middle weight at best and should fight mund at that weight as was said earlier.
ross
He is going down to middle so he doesn't have to fight Kessler again...

the fight is still at Super Middle on Boxrec. So, what is this fight going to be at? It makes sense to fight Soliman at MW, but that means little. If it is at SM, is Mundine planning on going down to M after that, vacating his title?

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 07 May 2008, 01:55

Yeah word on the street is that the Soliman fight will be at super middle and Mundine will go down after that.

I'm guessing his middleweight debut will be against this guy:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

toppity · Post by **toppity** » 07 May 2008, 01:59

he might be a bit tough, perhaps

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 08 May 2008, 00:00

Looks like the WBA has declared the title vacant because Mundine is not fighting Kessler. Kessler and Dimitri Sartison (me neither) are fighting for the "vacant" title.

toppity · Post by **toppity** » 08 May 2008, 01:46

Brute wrote:Looks like the WBA has declared the title vacant because Mundine is not fighting Kessler. Kessler and Dimitri Sartison (me neither) are fighting for the "vacant" title.

Does this mean that Mundine is no longer a World Champ? I can only live in hope. By the way Sartisan has a win over Nievas, who was beaten by Mundine a while ago in a 'so-called' title challenge.

Sapphire · Post by **Sapphire** » 08 May 2008, 04:48

I heard that there is "talk" of Mundine vs Sturm in Germany in August for the WBA Middleweight title

calmac66 · Post by **calmac66** » 08 May 2008, 04:56

Sapphire wrote:I heard that there is "talk" of Mundine vs Sturm in Germany in August for the WBA Middleweight title

Hopefully it goes as well as his last trip to Germany.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 08 May 2008, 07:42

calmac66 wrote:
Sapphire wrote:I heard that there is "talk" of Mundine vs Sturm in Germany in August for the WBA Middleweight title
Hopefully it goes as well as his last trip to Germany.

what you wouldnt like to see an aussie win a world title?

amwsnw · Post by **amwsnw** » 08 May 2008, 08:18

a reply has been posted on current scene outlining the wba's stance on things. Seems Kesslers camp may have jumped the gun. WBA have sanctioned the bout, but Mundine must fight Kessler after Soliman. Anybody seen the Mundine interview on FOX sports ?? Mundine said he would only fight above Middleweight for 3 fights....Danny Green, Sakio Bika and Joe Calzaghe. I don't think it would be too had to set up a fight with Bika....and it would be interesting. Another interesting thing is Khoder Naser spending a lot of time with Greeny lately. I am aware Nasser is speaking at a Green luncheon next week, but that is a week away!! Could the luncheon be the place for a big announcement re a comeback and rematch??
Hopefully Sam will pull off an upset....

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 08 May 2008, 18:32

p4p1 wrote:
calmac66 wrote:
Sapphire wrote:I heard that there is "talk" of Mundine vs Sturm in Germany in August for the WBA Middleweight title
Hopefully it goes as well as his last trip to Germany.
what you wouldnt like to see an aussie win a world title?

Sure, if he is not an arsehole....

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 08 May 2008, 18:46

amwsnw wrote:a reply has been posted on current scene outlining the wba's stance on things. Seems Kesslers camp may have jumped the gun. WBA have sanctioned the bout, but Mundine must fight Kessler after Soliman. Anybody seen the Mundine interview on FOX sports ?? Mundine said he would only fight above Middleweight for 3 fights....Danny Green, Sakio Bika and Joe Calzaghe. I don't think it would be too had to set up a fight with Bika....and it would be interesting. Another interesting thing is Khoder Naser spending a lot of time with Greeny lately. I am aware Nasser is speaking at a Green luncheon next week, but that is a week away!! Could the luncheon be the place for a big announcement re a comeback and rematch??
Hopefully Sam will pull off an upset....

It is advertised as "One door closing, another opening" or something. It may be that Green is moving into managing fighters or expanding his promotions. He seemed pretty determined about retiring, but who knows?

Beltane · Post by **Beltane** » 08 May 2008, 20:39

It has been reported that Danny would want the front door key to Fort Knox to get back into the ring.

Mundine knows that another fight against Danny would be his biggest income earner (thanks to his reluctance to fight overseas) but stepping up from the purported drop to middleweight back to light-heavy could be a division too far.

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 11 May 2008, 01:07

a move to 160 would change nothing, people are throwing names around like winky, pavlik, taylor ect, but i dobut any of them would happen, it will be the same drill at 160 as it is at 168: fighting scrubs and one every two years or so fight someone decent.
the thing that pisses me off the most is, i would acctually support mundine if he went to the states and fought the top guys

buster007 · Post by **buster007** » 11 May 2008, 05:53

i will never support him because he is a joke and nobody believes a word that he says anymore. he says he won't fight kessler because if he wins everybody will say yeah but calzaghe beat him too. what a liar. that is the worst excuse i have ever heard, even from mundine.

calmac66 · Post by **calmac66** » 11 May 2008, 21:57

p4p1 wrote:
calmac66 wrote:
Sapphire wrote:I heard that there is "talk" of Mundine vs Sturm in Germany in August for the WBA Middleweight title
Hopefully it goes as well as his last trip to Germany.
what you wouldnt like to see an aussie win a world title?

Yeah, I would like to see an Aussie win a world title and 2 or 3 years ago i would have been barracking for Mundine like there was no tommorrow but I am just sick of his shit. He fights the biggest bums in the division and still talks like he is Willie Pep or Sugar Ray. He needs to get into the ring with some decent opponents and let his skills do the talking. At this point I just wanna see him KO'ed or suffer another shutout loss like he did against Kessler.

Bentley23 · Post by **Bentley23** » 11 May 2008, 22:48

i dont mind him vacating his title if he backs his words up and goes down to middleweight and chase the big fights but something tells me it wont happen

buster007 · Post by **buster007** » 12 May 2008, 01:18

i can already see his excuse when calzaghe says he will fight him. he'll say we'll i was gonna kick calzaghe's ass, then king kong but i have moved down to middleweight now because you made me wait too long. lol.
then when calzaghe retires he'll say he is ready but calzaghe retired cause he's chicken. and use the same excuse for roy jones etc. etc.

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 12 May 2008, 02:38

Latest story is that he wants to relinquish his belt after the Soliman fight and chase middleweight titles. Has a delusion about being a three weight champion. God give me strength!

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 12 May 2008, 03:39

I hope Mundine does well at 160, He has the talent to clean up the middle weight division but will more than likely beat Sturm and then a bunch of deadbeats.