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FOUR MEXICAN BOXING ICONS

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KID AZTECA
Boxing career lasted over thirty years--- from 1930 to 1961.

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KID AZTECA

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JUAN ZURITA

In 1944 Zurita beat Sammy Angott on a 15 round decision to win the NBA version of the world light weight championship.

Here is a collectible Mexican comic book offered currently on ebay with Azteca, Zurita, Joe Conde, and Rodolpho Casanova on the cover:

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(1967) 7 x 10" comic book with 32 pages. "Estrellas del Deporte # 31". It features beautiful art and illustrated biography on Kid Azteca, Joe Conde, Rodolfo Casanova and other great boxing champions. Published in Mexico by Editorial Novaro. Spanish Language

http://us.f389.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLe ... &box=Inbox
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Very good recollections!

Kid Azteca (Luis Villanueva), between 1943 and 1944, fought in Argentina, winning over good boxers as Sebastian Romanos and Alfredo Pastoriza, and losin to greatest Argentinian aces, as Amelio Piceda, Raul Rodriguez and Atilio Caraune (by KO; Caraune was only in his 8th bout)

Kid Azteca is a great symbol of all the world boxing


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Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Very good recollections!

Kid Azteca (Luis Villanueva), between 1943 and 1944, fought in Argentina, winning over good boxers as Sebastian Romanos and Alfredo Pastoriza, and losin to greatest Argentinian aces, as Amelio Piceda, Raul Rodriguez and Atilio Caraune (by KO; Caraune was only in his 8th bout)

Kid Azteca is a great symbol of all the world boxing
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Martin,

That was only the 13th and 14th years of Kid Azteca's THIRTY-ONE YEAR career.

Please tell us something the Argentine fighters you named above.
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granberry wrote:Image

KID AZTECA
Boxing career lasted over thirty years--- from 1930 to 1961.

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KID AZTECA

Image
JUAN ZURITA

In 1944 Zurita beat Sammy Angott on a 15 round decision to win the NBA version of the world light weight championship.

Here is a collectible Mexican comic book offered currently on ebay with Azteca, Zurita, Joe Conde, and Rodolpho Casanova on the cover:

Image

(1967) 7 x 10" comic book with 32 pages. "Estrellas del Deporte # 31". It features beautiful art and illustrated biography on Kid Azteca, Joe Conde, Rodolfo Casanova and other great boxing champions. Published in Mexico by Editorial Novaro. Spanish Language

http://us.f389.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLe ... &box=Inbox
Rare find.
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granberry wrote:
Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Very good recollections!

Kid Azteca (Luis Villanueva), between 1943 and 1944, fought in Argentina, winning over good boxers as Sebastian Romanos and Alfredo Pastoriza, and losin to greatest Argentinian aces, as Amelio Piceda, Raul Rodriguez and Atilio Caraune (by KO; Caraune was only in his 8th bout)

Kid Azteca is a great symbol of all the world boxing
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Martin,

That was only the 13th and 14th years of Kid Azteca's THIRTY-ONE YEAR career.

Please tell us something the Argentine fighters you named above.

OK!

Amelio Piceda (born June 25, 1917), had this pro record (1939-1951): W--48 (KO's 3), L--4, D--13, NC--1, T--66
He was Argentinian Welterweight Champion from 1944 to his first retirement, 1947. Was unbeaten in 40 fights from the start of his career. He scored important victories, winning over Jaime Averboch, Simon Guerra, Francisco Suárez, Bom Bom Coronado, Victor Castillo, Kid Azteca, Domingo Archino, Mario Diaz, Alfonso Senatore, the unbeaten Eduardo Lausse and Jose Alamo Medina


Raul Rodriguez (born November 26, 1915), pro record (1939-1949): W--73 (KO's 33), L--7, D--2, NC--1, T--83
With Carlos Monzon, Eduardo Lausse, Rafael Merentino and Hugo Corro, was one of the greatest Argentinian Middleweights of all time
Was Argentinian (1940-1949) and South American (1943 until retirement) Middleweight Champion. Between 1940-1947, fought 54 times with no losts. He beat Tigre Martinez de Alfara, Jacinto Invierno, Raúl Landini (Olympic Silver Medal), Mario Galvan, Rodolfo Lapolla, Kid Azteca, Eddie Peirce, Amado Azar (Olympic Silver Medal, too), Antonio Fernandez "Fernandito", Alfredo Lagay, Bom Bom Coronado, the unbeaten in 23 fights Atilio Caraune and Pilar Bastidas

Atilio Caraune (born December 4, 1920), pro record (1943-1956): W--57 (KO's 40), L--7, D--2, T--66
With Jose Carattoli, Victor Galindez, Jorge Ahumada and Miguel Cuello, one of the greatest Argentinian Light Heavyweights
Argentinian Light Heavyweight Champion (1953 until his retirement); win the vacant title knocking out the unbeaten and Olympic Silver Medal Antonio Pacenza. From 1950 to 1954, scored 23 consecutive wins by K.O.
He beat Kid Azteca, Pilar Bastidas, Antonio Pacenza, Paulo Sacoman
As amateur, was three times Sourth American Champion

When I did each weight, I'm speaking only of the eight classic weights

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Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:

OK!

Amelio Piceda (born June 25, 1917), had this pro record (1939-1951): W--48 (KO's 3), L--4, D--13, NC--1, T--66
He was Argentinian Welterweight Champion from 1944 to his first retirement, 1947. Was unbeaten in 40 fights from the start of his career. He scored important victories, winning over Jaime Averboch, Simon Guerra, Francisco Suárez, Bom Bom Coronado, Victor Castillo, Kid Azteca, Domingo Archino, Mario Diaz, Alfonso Senatore, the unbeaten Eduardo Lausse and Jose Alamo Medina


Raul Rodriguez (born November 26, 1915), pro record (1939-1949): W--73 (KO's 33), L--7, D--2, NC--1, T--83
With Carlos Monzon, Eduardo Lausse, Rafael Merentino and Hugo Corro, was one of the greatest Argentinian Middleweights of all time
Was Argentinian (1940-1949) and South American (1943 until retirement) Middleweight Champion. Between 1940-1947, fought 54 times with no losts. He beat Tigre Martinez de Alfara, Jacinto Invierno, Raúl Landini (Olympic Silver Medal), Mario Galvan, Rodolfo Lapolla, Kid Azteca, Eddie Peirce, Amado Azar (Olympic Silver Medal, too), Antonio Fernandez "Fernandito", Alfredo Lagay, Bom Bom Coronado, the unbeaten in 23 fights Atilio Caraune and Pilar Bastidas

Atilio Caraune (born December 4, 1920), pro record (1943-1956): W--57 (KO's 40), L--7, D--2, T--66
With Jose Carattoli, Victor Galindez, Jorge Ahumada and Miguel Cuello, one of the greatest Argentinian Light Heavyweights
Argentinian Light Heavyweight Champion (1953 until his retirement); win the vacant title knocking out the unbeaten and Olympic Silver Medal Antonio Pacenza. From 1950 to 1954, scored 23 consecutive wins by K.O.
He beat Kid Azteca, Pilar Bastidas, Antonio Pacenza, Paulo Sacoman
As amateur, was three times Sourth American Champion

When I did each weight, I'm speaking only of the eight classic weights

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Are there any films of these fighters?
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Yes, I think. Personally, I haven't. Please, see this:

http://amatoboxingsite.multiply.com/notes/item/2015

Thanks!


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Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Yes, I think. Personally, I haven't. Please, see this:

http://amatoboxingsite.multiply.com/notes/item/2015

Thanks!


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Martin,

Thanks for that.

Your article on JOSE CARATTOLI is packed with information on him and a large number of other fighters.

I was amazed to see that Carattoli beat Tommy Loughran.

What a pity he never came to the US.

Your article is so packed with information I will have to go over it a number of times.

Even this single paragraph below is full of information that I could devote considerable time to following up looking into the records of the fighters you mention:

The Peruvian Alberto Icochea, former South American champion, winner over Santiago Rottoli (TKO 1), Alejandro Trias, Luis Galtieri and the Italian and European champion Bruno Frattini (who scored a victory over the world champion Maxie Rosembloom), lost on points to Carattoli. The Chilean Jose Concha, kayo winner over the South American champion Quintin Romero Rojas (winner by K.O. in 9 of the world heavyweight champion Jack Sharkey, by K.O. in 11 of Larry Gains, on points over Gunboat Smith and Charley Weinert, winner in its turn over the world champion Battling Levinsky): this raised Chilean was twice defeated by Carattoli, always by K.O.
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Grandberry,

Thanks you for your appreciations and interest! Jose Carattoli was the greatest Argentinian Light Heavyweight of all times

Please, too, you can see this:

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w ... meron.html

Thanks again!


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JOSE CARATTOLI

South American Light Heavyweight champion.

Beat Tommy Loughran.
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OK!

I'm a fan of Jose Carattoli! He was Argentinian Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight Champion (Victorio Campolo refused to fight against him). He KO'ed, too, legendary Spanish Isidoro Gastanaga

Thanks!



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Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:OK!

I'm a fan of Jose Carattoli! He was Argentinian Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight Champion (Victorio Campolo refused to fight against him). He KO'ed, too, legendary Spanish Isidoro Gastanaga

Thanks!
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Martin,

Can you fill me in on Gastanaga?
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granberry wrote:
The Peruvian Alberto Icochea, former South American champion, winner over Santiago Rottoli (TKO 1), Alejandro Trias, Luis Galtieri and the Italian and European champion Bruno Frattini (who scored a victory over the world champion Maxie Rosembloom), lost on points to Carattoli.
ALBERTO "EL BURRO" ICOCHEA

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Broncano wrote:
granberry wrote:
The Peruvian Alberto Icochea, former South American champion, winner over Santiago Rottoli (TKO 1), Alejandro Trias, Luis Galtieri and the Italian and European champion Bruno Frattini (who scored a victory over the world champion Maxie Rosembloom), lost on points to Carattoli.
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Broncano,

Alberto Icochea looks almost exactly like Jack Dempsey in that lower photo you posted. Even the black hair.
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granberry wrote:
Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:OK!

I'm a fan of Jose Carattoli! He was Argentinian Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight Champion (Victorio Campolo refused to fight against him). He KO'ed, too, legendary Spanish Isidoro Gastanaga

Thanks!
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Martin,

Can you fill me in on Gastanaga?

Hi, Granberry!

Isidoro Gastañaga scored 18 consecutive wins by K.O.

Here is a photo

http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:uZ ... lr=lang_es

This is the record (not complete)

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer


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Broncano,

Alberto Icochea looks almost exactly like Jack Dempsey in that lower photo you posted. Even the black hair.
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It is not unlikely that they may have crossed paths at some point. Icochea was doing the rounds in the N.Y. arenas in late 1924.

He was brought from Peru with only 2 or 3 years experience as a pro (his boxrec record is incomplete as for the years 1921-1922) and in the course of 45 days he fought SEVEN times, winning 4, losing one and drawing 2.

Peruvian newspapers describe him as the prototypical slugger, rather slow but endowed with an iron chin -
He was never knocked out in a career that spanned over 15 years and as many as 10 different countries.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
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Broncano wrote:
granberry wrote:
Broncano,

Alberto Icochea looks almost exactly like Jack Dempsey in that lower photo you posted. Even the black hair.
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It is not unlikely that they may have crossed paths at some point. Icochea was doing the rounds in the N.Y. arenas in late 1924.

He was brought from Peru with only 2 or 3 years experience as a pro (his boxrec record is incomplete as for the years 1921-1922) and in the course of 45 days he fought SEVEN times, winning 4, losing one and drawing 2.

Peruvian newspapers describe him as the prototypical slugger, rather slow but endowed with an iron chin -
He was never knocked out in a career that spanned over 15 years and as many as 10 different countries.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
in the course of 45 days he fought SEVEN times

He was never knocked out in a career that spanned over 15 years....
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