Pavlik V Lockett

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Post by ebeneezer »

Captain Hook wrote:Of course he has a 'chance'...

Lockett is a decent puncher and Pavlik has looked vulnerable on occasion.

Of course Kelly is overwhelming favourite but you never know.

100-1? No chance, more like 10-1....
Of course he's a puncher.

Didn't you see his incredible demolition jobs on world class operators like Lee Blundell and Gilbert Eastman? Far better than knocking out stiffs like Jose Zertuche,Edison Miranda and Jermaine Taylor!

That weak chinned bum Pavlik hasn't got a chance :lol:
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ciscokid wrote:
Asterix wrote:Unfortunately I haven't seen the Bedburdick fight, but against Taylor Pavlik stuck his chin out as if to say that Taylor couldn't hurt him. Taylor didn't need to be asked twice, but Pavlik got up straight away and back down to business.
Maybe you should watch some of his earlier fights then ;-)
I can't find them. :(
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ebeneezer wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:Of course he has a 'chance'...

Lockett is a decent puncher and Pavlik has looked vulnerable on occasion.

Of course Kelly is overwhelming favourite but you never know.

100-1? No chance, more like 10-1....
Of course he's a puncher.

Didn't you see his incredible demolition jobs on world class operators like Lee Blundell and Gilbert Eastman? Far better than knocking out stiffs like Jose Zertuche,Edison Miranda and Jermaine Taylor!

That weak chinned bum Pavlik hasn't got a chance :lol:


Do you want to read my post again mate, then come back, pull your finger out of your a*** and post something constructive?

I said he has a chance, you come back with a pathetic little dig. Who said knocking out Blundell is better than Miranda, I didn't!

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Post by Arbachakov »

Miranda is a terrible fighter anyway.

Pavlik should get little credit for stopping the unskilled plodder.
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Arbachakov wrote:Miranda is a terrible fighter anyway.

Pavlik should get little credit for stopping the unskilled plodder.
Miranda had just come off a close fight with Abraham, was a ranked middleweight and considered dangerous.

Kelly's performance in that fight, eating huge right hands, backing Miranda up and battering him was tremendous.

You thinking he should get little credit for that win tells me all I need to know about you
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Post by TerribleTerry »

Arbachakov wrote:Miranda is a terrible fighter anyway.

Pavlik should get little credit for stopping the unskilled plodder.
He is no slickster, I will give you that, but what he lacks in skills he makes up for with his dangerous bang - did you see what he did to Paul Smith's old mate?? :o

He also gave Abrahams murder in Germany, braking his jaw in the process, so I dont think he can be purely dismissed as a 'terrible' fighter.
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Post by Captain Hook »

ebeneezer wrote:
Arbachakov wrote:Miranda is a terrible fighter anyway.

Pavlik should get little credit for stopping the unskilled plodder.
Miranda had just come off a close fight with Abraham, was a ranked middleweight and considered dangerous.

Kelly's performance in that fight, eating huge right hands, backing Miranda up and battering him was tremendous.

You thinking he should get little credit for that win tells me all I need to know about you
You ignored my post, which tells us all we need to know about you pal..
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Post by Max Molyneux »

Doesn't look hard to give Abraham a close fight, Arthur's mostly tough and has power. How was It close when Miranda was deducted 5 points for fouling?

Miranda before Eastman was weirdly ranked high In the IBF without beating anyone decent. He still hasn't beaten anyone decent yet either.
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Post by ebeneezer »

Captain Hook wrote:
ebeneezer wrote:
Arbachakov wrote:Miranda is a terrible fighter anyway.

Pavlik should get little credit for stopping the unskilled plodder.
Miranda had just come off a close fight with Abraham, was a ranked middleweight and considered dangerous.

Kelly's performance in that fight, eating huge right hands, backing Miranda up and battering him was tremendous.

You thinking he should get little credit for that win tells me all I need to know about you
You ignored my post, which tells us all we need to know about you pal..
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Post by Captain Hook »

I think I'd rather have my outlook on life than that of Search and Ebeneezer....God bless them, fornicating morons!

Aaah the sheep "joke".....how quaint. Later.....
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search wrote:Gary Lockett has a real chance here. He can KO Pavlik with either hand. he has the style to beat Pavlik. Pavlik has never fought someone like Lockett. Lockett is ready for the challenge. Lockett will catch Pavlik and hurt him. Lockett can take Pavliks punches, he has a great chin. He has excellent boxing skills. Gary Lockett is definately going to win.
Thats right.

He can KO anybody. Pity he was drugged before his first fight with Yuri Tsarenko. Thats the only way Gary could have been beaten. His KO win over Pavlik is a foregone conclusion.
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search wrote:Gary Lockett has a real chance here. He can KO Pavlik with either hand. he has the style to beat Pavlik. Pavlik has never fought someone like Lockett. Lockett is ready for the challenge. Lockett will catch Pavlik and hurt him. Lockett can take Pavliks punches, he has a great chin. He has excellent boxing skills. Gary Lockett is definately going to win.
If you're that confident then definitely have a bet on the fight. You'll get great odds.
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Post by WildWaylon »

ebeneezer wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:Of course he has a 'chance'...

Lockett is a decent puncher and Pavlik has looked vulnerable on occasion.

Of course Kelly is overwhelming favourite but you never know.

100-1? No chance, more like 10-1....
Of course he's a puncher.

Didn't you see his incredible demolition jobs on world class operators like Lee Blundell and Gilbert Eastman? Far better than knocking out stiffs like Jose Zertuche,Edison Miranda and Jermaine Taylor!

That weak chinned bum Pavlik hasn't got a chance :lol:
Surely this post is just a wind up!!!!!
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Post by WildWaylon »

Bookies are rarely wrong with odds like 50/1 or 100/1 so lets be honest they dont fancy the Welshmans chances and neither do I. It would be great, in fact fantastic, if Lockett could pull off the win but I just cant see it happening.
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Post by ebeneezer »

WildWaylon wrote:
ebeneezer wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:Of course he has a 'chance'...

Lockett is a decent puncher and Pavlik has looked vulnerable on occasion.

Of course Kelly is overwhelming favourite but you never know.

100-1? No chance, more like 10-1....
Of course he's a puncher.

Didn't you see his incredible demolition jobs on world class operators like Lee Blundell and Gilbert Eastman? Far better than knocking out stiffs like Jose Zertuche,Edison Miranda and Jermaine Taylor!

That weak chinned bum Pavlik hasn't got a chance :lol:
Surely this post is just a wind up!!!!!
It is :TU:
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Post by Goz »

World 'champ' called Kelly? fornicate off.

GARY Lockett to get this female pretender out of there quick time.

Kelly? Kelly?!!!

What next, Shirley Valentine WBO champ?
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Post by stujones »

Reminds me of Matt Lucas dressed as Charlotte Church - discussing Welsh singers/bands.

"Stereophonics, Kelly, thats a girls name that is... what are you some kind of poofy woofter".
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Post by Bard of Boxrec »

WHO HAS LOCKETT EVER STOPPED THAT GIVES ANY OF YOU THE MEAGREST REASON TO BELIEVE HE HAS THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE OF STOPPING PAVLIK????
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Post by Goz »

He never fought anyone called Kelly before.
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Post by ciscokid »

When Dann fought Eastman in 2003 bookies weren't taking odds on Eastman as they thought that the fight was a formality. Internet betting wasn't big then and I was traveling, my dad got odds of 7-1 or 6-1 on Dann from a bookies in Plymouth, which probably was a bit shit as it's Scott's home town, but should give you an idea of what a outsider should be getting..
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Post by WildWaylon »

I agree Kelly for a man is not the most masculine name but look at poor old John Wayne growing up with the name Marion. There are big beefy Yanks called Tracey as well. Do you remember the Johnny Cash song "boy named Sue"? At the end of the song the father says to his son "I wanted you to grow up tough, thats why I gave you that name" Maybe Pavliks parents had a similar idear. Anyway Kelly Pavlik is the champ regardless of his name and its going to take a very good fighter to beat him, and I dont honestly see Lockett as that fighter.
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Post by Chambers2 »

http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports ... ry-lockett

The first odds are up for this fight

Pavlik 1/25
Lockett 8/1
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Post by Chambers2 »

search wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:WHO HAS LOCKETT EVER STOPPED THAT GIVES ANY OF YOU THE MEAGREST REASON TO BELIEVE HE HAS THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE OF STOPPING PAVLIK????
Gary Lockett has KO power in either hand and if he catches anyone in the division they will be knocked out cold
I think you're exaggerating Locketts power
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Post by chesh »

Chambers2 wrote:
search wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:WHO HAS LOCKETT EVER STOPPED THAT GIVES ANY OF YOU THE MEAGREST REASON TO BELIEVE HE HAS THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE OF STOPPING PAVLIK????
Gary Lockett has KO power in either hand and if he catches anyone in the division they will be knocked out cold
I think you're exaggerating Locketts power
I agree. The knockout percentage is good (about 70%), but achieved at a low level in world terms. Lockett seems a great bloke and I wish him well, but - if you look carefully at his record - it is not easy to make a case for his deserving a "world" title shot.
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Post by MightyWarrior »

Search is being ironic I think :D

8/1 is about right I guess, but I still think Lockett hits hard enough to give Pavlik a few surprises.

Ok the form says no comparison, but you'll hear a lot of people in the UK game say that Lockett is a genuine out & out puncher, and has been since his amateur days.
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