amateur rules other than the obvious

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amateur rules other than the obvious

Post by hello2007 »

Can someone tell me what the amateur boxing rules are overall, other than the obvious of 4 rounds, 2 minutes each, landing punching scoring system, headgear, 10-12 ounce gloves etc.
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Here's a link to the USA Boxing rulebook:

http://www.usaboxingofficials.org/RULEB ... es2006.pdf
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Post by hello2007 »

thanks guys, gained alot of insight there. But what happens if a fighter doesn't show up for a fight. Like what if you go to fight but your opponent is a no show, doesn't show up. do you automatically win or is the fight just called off
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Post by Puncher7 »

depends on the type of event
if it's a tournament where the brackets are already set then the opponent who doesnt show loses by whats called a "walkover"
but if it's just a one day show where matches arent made until the day of the fights and they only agreed to fight between the two boxers or coaches and one doesnt show then there is just no fight
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Post by hello2007 »

thanks, I appreciate it
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Post by Dennis »

Remember your 4 rounds of 2 minutes each will be changing at the end of this year or early next year. It won't change before the Olympics, but will change soon thereafter. It is going back to the old rule of 3 rounds of 3 minutes each for open-class boxers.
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Post by hello2007 »

yea I actually like that rule. I was wondering though can you knock down your opponents hand in a match? obviously you won't score any points if you did it but can you do that. Like what chris byrd does
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Post by Dennis »

I've seen it done, but I also have seen the ref caution the boxer. I'm not sure what rule they were breaking, but they were cautioned.
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Post by boxmel »

Amateur boxers score by throwing legal (without fouling) effective punches in the scoring area with the white knuckle surface of the glove - and the weight of the shoulder behind the punch. If you look at the USA Boxing rule book, you will see several pages of illustrated fouls. The goal in amateur boxing is to outpoint your opponent.
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Post by Dennis »

Mel - can you find a rule they would violate by knocking down the other boxer's glove like Klitschko did against Ibragimov?

I don't see any.
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Post by Dennis »

Mel - some more comments about fouls:

Refs caution boxers about stepping on the other boxer's foot. This often happens with southpaws against orthodox boxers. Yet there is no specific rule that I can find that prohibits this. Can you find one in the USA Boxing Rulebook?
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Dennis wrote:Remember your 4 rounds of 2 minutes each will be changing at the end of this year or early next year. It won't change before the Olympics, but will change soon thereafter. It is going back to the old rule of 3 rounds of 3 minutes each for open-class boxers.
It should have never changed from that. Who knows what they were thinking when they started the 4 rounds at 2 minutes a round.... :roll:
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Post by hello2007 »

I don't understand the feet thing either, how can you tell where your feet are going to be
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I don't understand the feet thing either, how can you tell where your feet are going to be
A boxer with good basic training and balance can generally learn to stay off the feet of a southpaw, or vice versa. Refs caution on that one because it's a safety issue, i.e., can trip a boxer.
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Post by Dennis »

I have seen boxers get warnings (i.e. "point deductions" which is actually giving the other boxer 2 points with the current scoring system) for repeatedly stepping on the other boxer's foot.

The referees do have a lot of discretion.
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ref's vary in how they call a fight
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like when roy was fighting prince badi he stuck both hands out, which he normally does in every of his fights and the ref lets him do it for the first 4 rounds then in the 5th he calls him on it saying you can't do that you can't use it as a range finder(what?), you got to be either jabbing or hooking. roy just stopped boxing and look at him and said some stuff, I didn't hear what he said and few seconds later roy sticks his hands out again and the ref doesn't ever call him on it again during the fight. Even the 3 announcers where like what exactly is the ref warning roy about, when that happened
Are you talking about a pro fight or an amateur bout? They both have different rules and different scoring criteria.
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Post by hello2007 »

some ref's need to be trained more
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Post by boxmel »

Unfortunately, there are some refs who don't get trained correctly - or trained at all. And it shows in the ring. I've also noticed that the quality of the boxers goes down, too, if they are allowed to do whatever they want.
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Post by Dennis »

There are also many coaches and boxers who don't know the rules.
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Post by hello2007 »

I was looking through the book and didnt notice any rules on out of the ring knockdowns. Whats the rules if you go through the ropes and out of the ring, is it a 20 count then instead of a 10 count
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Post by Kolya »

boxmel wrote:
I don't understand the feet thing either, how can you tell where your feet are going to be
A boxer with good basic training and balance can generally learn to stay off the feet of a southpaw, or vice versa. Refs caution on that one because it's a safety issue, i.e., can trip a boxer.
You can also use it to keep an opponent held in place while you throw at them. It's about the only cheap trick I'm actually good at. :lol:
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Post by Dennis »

Kolya wrote:
boxmel wrote:
I don't understand the feet thing either, how can you tell where your feet are going to be
A boxer with good basic training and balance can generally learn to stay off the feet of a southpaw, or vice versa. Refs caution on that one because it's a safety issue, i.e., can trip a boxer.
You can also use it to keep an opponent held in place while you throw at them. It's about the only cheap trick I'm actually good at. :lol:
That is part of the reason why refs caution boxers for it. They don't want one boxer to get an unfair advantage.
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Post by hello2007 »

i see
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