prime examples of styles making fights

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 13 May 2008, 21:26

i'm going to mention some lesser known examples of "styles make fights"
practically everyone knows about the Really Well Known "styles make fights" comparison/examples of Hearns-Duran-Barkley,Hagler-Hearns-Duran,Holmes-Shavers-Norton,Ali-Frazier-Foreman,Junior Jones-Barrera-McKinney,Hagler-Hearns-Geraldo,& Norton-Quarry-Shavers.

Patterson-Chuvalo(Patterson barely outpoints Chuvalo.The fight couldve easily been ruled a draw.)

Patterson-Bonevena(Patterson easily outpoints Bonevena)

Bonevena-Chuvalo(Bonevena outpoints Chuvalo)
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Other examples
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Sammy Mandell decisioned Tony Canzoneri.
Al Singer ko'd Sammy Mandell
Tony Canzoneri Ko'd Al Singer
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Pipino Cuevas Ko'd Pete Ranzany.
Randy Shields lost a close decision to Cuevas
Pete Ranzany Tko'd Randy Shields
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There's tons more "styles make fights" examples of course.
I just want to leave plenty of room for others to give they're input.
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granberry · Post by **granberry** » 13 May 2008, 21:31

Jimmy McLarnin lost by lopsided decision in 15 rounds to Sammy Mandell.
Al Singer KO'd Mandell in one round
McLarnin KO'd Al Singer.

Ali "knocked out" Liston with a single "punch" in the first round.
Ali never scored a knockDOWN in the first round of any other title fight he had.

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 13 May 2008, 21:42

granberry wrote:Jimmy McLarnin lost by lopsided decision in 15 rounds to Sammy Mandell.
Al Singer KO'd Mandell in one round
McLarnin KO'd Al Singer.

Ali "knocked out" Liston with a single "punch" in the first round.
Ali never scored a knockDOWN in the first round of any other title fight he had.

i think we can all agree there was something wrong with the second ali - liston fight

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » 13 May 2008, 21:50

just thought of another one.

Mike Weaver Ko'd Gerrie Coetzee
Michael Dokes Tko'd Mike Weaver
Gerrie Coetzee Tko'd Michael Dokes
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granberry · Post by **granberry** » 13 May 2008, 22:18

The famous example is Willie Jackson KOing Johnny Dundee

while Dundee accomplished numerous things in his career Jackson could not hope to do.

Klee Gluckman · Post by **Klee Gluckman** » 14 May 2008, 07:02

Douglas ko Tyson
Saverese ko Douglas
Tyson ko Savarese

Tony Tucker ud Oliver Macall
Oliver Macall ko 2 Lewis
Lewis ud Tucker

Holyfield UD Foreman
Moorer SD Holyfield
Foreman ko Tyson

Leonard ko 14 Hearns
Duran ud Leonard
Hearns ko 2 Duran
Hagler UD Duran
Hagler ko 3 Hearns
Barkley ko 3 Hearns
Duran UD Barkley
Leaonard UD Duran
Hearns beat Leonard (poor judges)
Barkley ud Hearns

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 14 May 2008, 08:50

Some of these examples aren't really because of styles.
For example the Patterson-Chuvalo-Bonavena fights.

Chuvalo and Bonavena had relatively similar styles. Yet Patterson had more trouble with Chuvalo than he did with Bonavena even though he was closer to his prime when he fought Chuvalo.
Why? Chuvalo fought one of his best fights against Patterson. It really doesn't have much to do with styles.
When Bonavena fought Chuvalo, it was a close fight. which is what you would expect between two guys who were close in ability and in style.

Sometimes the 3 (or more) fighters are just closely matched in ability so it's not surprising that no one goes undefeated or loses all of their fights between each other. The Duran-Leonard-Hagler-Hearns fights are an example of this. The only anomaly is that Barkley beat Hearns.

Other times it has to do with when the the fights took place. For example, the Savarese-Tyson-Douglas scenario. It wasn't Savarese's style that beat Douglas. Douglas was way past it when he fought Savarese. He was remotely near the fighter that had beat Tyson. That Douglas would have beaten Savarese easily.