Terry D wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Terry D wrote:
Has some deranged woman hacked into your account or something? It was not a robbery, that is crazy. It was a fight that was fairly hard to score with both guys bringing different attributes, this lead to the scoring being the way it was. The SD in the Witter fight was worse in my opinion as he was not in the races in any respect.
Malignaggi is in line because he can draw a crowd at MSG and he has a title, unfortunately Witter was never going to achieve one of those feats and has now lost his belt.
A Lynes fight is the best he can hope for and you could blame everyone in the world aside from Witter but he was the man in the ring, the clean living hard training man on a mission, and he blew it.
Eventually you will have to acknowledge that no one was to blame for Witter losing other than Witter. No one, also, forced him into fighting that Spanish guy and into looking awful, no one forced him to take months off after arguably his biggest and most eye-catching, the finish certainly, win. As Bradley said Witter's mind was on his post-fight rinsing of Hatton, something you his fans all called for, and look where it landed him.
'They brought different attributes' like Ngoudjo brought his punches and Malignaggi brought his face. Ngoudjo landed much much MORE - see the punchstats if you don't agree. And how much harder does Ngoudjo hit, 5 or 10 times? He backed Malignaggi up all night, hurt him multiple times. WTF did Malignaggi win on?
Witter despited been shit Ruiz'ed some rounds away and was ahead until he got clocked.
Witter lost the fight and lost his chance of a Hatton fight, I'm not arguing about that. That is undeniable, the fights been on the cards from 2000-2008 and should have happened in that time
TBH Terrance it looks like your spinning the usual Witter and his competition are crap and they are nowhere never as great as the wonderful insert guy coming off a robery win or lucky punch.
Anyway the fight will never happen, I won't call for it but I would still like to see it.
Punch stats don't score fights, incompetent judges do. As for your 5-10 x harder shots guesstimate, it is just that. Malignaggi was wobbled once if I recall, he boxed poorly but I've seen worse decisions.
Not sure about Witter being ahead when the knockdown came. He was behind on my card but that is the thing, it was MY card, without magical punch stats to hand, although I think Junior's could honestly be counted on one hand by that point.
If you are happy for Witter to Ruiz his way to rounds then you must have scored some big rounds to Hatton as by your criteria, and some on here, Hatton is a mini-Ruiz.
Saying I'm towing a anti-Witter line is unfair and wrong. I've spoken up for him on BBN and wrote about his fights so I've hardly closed my eyes to him.
Ultimately he failed to hold the title for any significant period, or to make any significant fights. That is not the fault of the machinations of Hatton, the blame lies elsewhere. In their parallel time-line one guy defeated a much-lauded (then, Tszyu is shit now apparently) fighter and then pursued a bout with the best fighter in the world, despite barely winning a round you have to respect that fact.
All we heard from the Witter faction on here pre-fight was that Bradley would be mashed down and Witter should a) insult Hatton b) insult his family (classy) c) insult his career d) call him a c*nt live on air, it is also stated that Hatton did this type of thing to lure Floyd into a fight when beating Castillo. Fair point, the difference? Hatton did it live on HBO to a worldwide audience, Witter did not even reach this type of level. Again that is not down to anybody but the man himself.
Hopefully Witter can dust himself off and comeback but after his last loss, again a dire showing on Showtime, it took him a million and five fights to get back, we have seen the last of Witter at world title level.
The whole debate used to be boring, now it is irrelevent.
Well don't band all the Witter fans together as you won't have heard any of those comments come from my mouth. Those are clearly immature posters talking out of frustration for their favourate fighting not getting the fight they want but I dont see what their comments have to do with me or Witter who was never the disrespectful character Hatton painted him to be in order to duck the fight.
The reason I gave Witter rounds was because he would score a connected punch and grab (stopping his opponent from getting off), while his opponent simply wasnt getting shots off and that happened in 5-6 rounds. Thats my definition of Ruizing rounds. He was also the ring general early on.
Yes Hatton will go down as having a greater legacy but he has had the silver spoon treatment, all the advantages, hes a very good fighter but I dont rate his skills that highly and the 8 year Witter situation and minimum risk fights rub me the wrong me. He did a tremendous job on Tyszu but there will always be a big question mark on that win.
As for Witters legacy, lets not forget he rotted for eyars waiting for his title shot and hes now 34. If he got say Shamba Mitchell 2002-2004 or Harris back then he would have skyrocketed. hardly had allot of luck of the green has he?
I think you know Herman won that fight. I hope both Herman and Witter get shots in the next 18months, Herman being the more deserving.
Despite Witter looking shit as a fan I'd like to see him get 1 last throw of the dice. Who knows maybe Hatton will be a gentleman and give him a shot once he loses to Mayweather again
