Guzman can't stop Arthur from winning that title

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 15 May 2008, 05:38

Well we'll see what happens, but when a champion moves up in weight it generally happens that they do get a high ranking spot with the same body.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of manouvering going on - The way arthur has been manouvered is a prime example of how bad the WBO are.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 15 May 2008, 05:41

Old bones Ian wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Well, the WBO have made Guzman #1 contender so he'll be fighting Campbell before you know it.
Well here's the April rankings of WBO, i can't see Guzman getting the No.1 ranking . The boxers at the top are all with big promoters, so they aren't going to let their boxer drop down without a protest.

1 Anthony Peterson USA
2 Amir Khan GB
3 Juan Diaz USA
4 Michael Katsidis AUST
5 Almazvek Raimkulov KYR
6 Urbano Antillon MEX
7 Jorge Terron (NABO) JPN
8 Jose Reyes (Latino) PR
9 Zahir Raheem USA
10 Martin Kristjansen DEN
11 Yuri Romanov BEL
12 Eduardo Roman (Latino-Int) ARG
13 Kengo Nagashima JPN
14 Raymundo Beltran MEX
15 Luis Rodriguez

Khan shouldn't even be top 10 in reality, if you go by what he has done so far.

gobbles · Post by **gobbles** » 15 May 2008, 05:47

The problem is with Donovan, the writer of the original article, is he is incapable of saying Guzman's manager could have been in any way in the wrong. As far as I'm aware, a boxer from the US for a title fight has to be in Britain six days before the fight, which means he has to leave seven days before. Yet, seven days before, Guzman was still applying for a visa - that shows his manager to be a disorganised idiot.
That show being cancelled not only hit Guzman, it also hit Arthur in the pocket, the TV company and all the undercard fighters, all of whom had been in training but lost their payday.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 15 May 2008, 06:36

So predictable, there's NO WAY Warren wanted this fight ( just like a few years back, they tried to talk Harrison out of a Guzman fight ) AA was going to get pulverized, no two ways about it.
There were "injury" rumours that AA was about to pull out, just before the visa excuse popped up and saved the day.

FW "unavailable for comment"??? Wow, that's a first.

And we get another meaningless WBO chump as a result. Woopee.

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 15 May 2008, 06:41

MightyWarrior wrote:So predictable, there's NO WAY Warren wanted this fight ( just like a few years back, they tried to talk Harrison out of a Guzman fight ) AA was going to get pulverized, no two ways about it.
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certainly - although he hits some big clubbing blows, Arthur lacks the speed to deal with a class act like Guzman. He'd end up badly lacerated, though probably not seriously hurt.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 May 2008, 07:14

Old bones Ian wrote:
Twinkle Toes wrote:If you read the article blue posted Ian. It states that the WBO have given assurances to team Guzman that he would be installed as WBO number 1 at the higher weight.
A verbal agreement between a promoter and a boss of a boxing governing body, hardly legally binding.

Campbell and Casamayor are boxing each other next , that fight has gone out to purse bids, and will take place sometime in mid/late summer.
Also Juan Manuel Marquez has been offered as an opponent for Campbell.

Casamayor could also have a proposed fight with Juan Diaz in September.
Add to that David Diaz fighting Pacquaio, at the end of June. the winner of that one won't fight again to at least September.

Of course Guzman could go down the WBA title route, as Campbell is the 'super champion', the WBA title is held by one Jose Alfaro who fights later this week i think.

Just because it's going to purse bids, doesn't mean that Golden Boy are going to play along. Golden Boy can easily get Casamayor to dump the WBO halfway belt. Casa has the Golden Boy Ring Mag title and the plan is for him to fight Juan Diaz for it.

Asterix · Post by **Asterix** » 15 May 2008, 15:09

nickd wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Well, the WBO have made Guzman #1 contender so he'll be fighting Campbell before you know it.
Well here's the April rankings of WBO, i can't see Guzman getting the No.1 ranking . The boxers at the top are all with big promoters, so they aren't going to let their boxer drop down without a protest.

1 Anthony Peterson USA
2 Amir Khan GB
3 Juan Diaz USA
4 Michael Katsidis AUST
5 Almazvek Raimkulov KYR
6 Urbano Antillon MEX
7 Jorge Terron (NABO) JPN
8 Jose Reyes (Latino) PR
9 Zahir Raheem USA
10 Martin Kristjansen DEN
11 Yuri Romanov BEL
12 Eduardo Roman (Latino-Int) ARG
13 Kengo Nagashima JPN
14 Raymundo Beltran MEX
15 Luis Rodriguez
Khan shouldn't even be top 10 in reality, if you go by what he has done so far.

He has beaten the guy who is 10th in the list though.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 May 2008, 15:15

Old bones Ian wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Well, the WBO have made Guzman #1 contender so he'll be fighting Campbell before you know it.
Well here's the April rankings of WBO, i can't see Guzman getting the No.1 ranking . The boxers at the top are all with big promoters, so they aren't going to let their boxer drop down without a protest.

1 Anthony Peterson USA
2 Amir Khan GB
3 Juan Diaz USA
4 Michael Katsidis AUST
5 Almazvek Raimkulov KYR
6 Urbano Antillon MEX
7 Jorge Terron (NABO) JPN
8 Jose Reyes (Latino) PR
9 Zahir Raheem USA
10 Martin Kristjansen DEN
11 Yuri Romanov BEL
12 Eduardo Roman (Latino-Int) ARG
13 Kengo Nagashima JPN
14 Raymundo Beltran MEX
15 Luis Rodriguez

Nonetheless Guzman has been promised a #1 ranking. He is a former WBO champ at 2 weights and this clearly counts for something.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 15 May 2008, 15:39

Guzman is a good boxer, but is he big box office in the USA?
I really don't know the answer

Dioufy · Post by **Dioufy** » 15 May 2008, 15:42

I reckon this is a joke. I would've at least had Arthur fighting for the vacant belt but he's been given it courtesy of a win over Kobo Google, and that is a crying shame, especially when 130lbs is fairly strong. I would've had him in against Rocky Jaurez.