Boxrec Hall of Fame Discussion Thread

[Ambling Alp]

That's sort of what I have been saying. (Though I think Zivic's best wins are a little more impressive than Basora's or Cocoa Kid's.)

-You shouldn't just take a few impressive wins and say that a fighter automatically deserves to make it. It's an important factor, but not certainly not the only factor.

Of course someone with those kind of impressive wins deserves to be considered. You have to look at many factors.

You should look at a fighters win/loss record, and go from there. How tough was the competition? All the fights against great, good, mediocre, and weak opponents all have to be looked at.
What was the stage of the fighter's career that you are rating and each of his opponents when they fought? How did the fighter look on film? (Of course the more film the more accurrate of an evaluation). What do the newspaper,magazines, books etc. say about him?

As mentioned before, our Boxrec Hall of Fame has been around only for a little more than two years and so far only 63 guys have made it. There are still way too many guys that haven't made that were better than Zivic.

Zivic is in the International Boxing Hall of Fame, which has been around since 1989 and has over 200 fighters inducted. Are there some fighters not in that were better than Zivic? Yes, but not than many. He certainly isn't the worst fighter in the Hall of Fame.

[granberry]

To paraphrase Franklin D. Roosevelt's Vice President, John Garner,


"These 'boxing halls of fame' aren't worth a bucket of warm spit."

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[Borinken25]

I think John L. Sullivan, Nicoline Locche, Pascual Perez, and Les Darcy just to name a few should go in before Fritze Zivic.