amateur rules other than the obvious

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 15 May 2008, 08:41

"Measuring" is usually a ploy to try and hold off your opponent, i.e., stick your glove in his/her face and he can't move forward or get within range to hit you. You can even get cautioned for "waiting" or "not boxing." Remember, the goal in amateur boxing is to outpoint your opponent and you only have 4-2 minute rounds, or less, to do that.

hello2007 · Post by **hello2007** » 15 May 2008, 19:20

boxmel wrote:"Measuring" is usually a ploy to try and hold off your opponent, i.e., stick your glove in his/her face and he can't move forward or get within range to hit you. You can even get cautioned for "waiting" or "not boxing." Remember, the goal in amateur boxing is to outpoint your opponent and you only have 4-2 minute rounds, or less, to do that.

I see thanks for the explanation. Some of these rules seem odd without a explanation

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 15 May 2008, 20:03

You're welcome. Are you in the U.S. and are you a boxer?

hello2007 · Post by **hello2007** » 15 May 2008, 22:57

no, I'm above you guys.

Are you a ref or judge. You seem to know the rules well

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 15 May 2008, 23:19

no, I'm above you guys.

Does this mean you are from Canada? Just curious because, if you are, the USA Boxing rule book does NOT apply. :(

Yes, I'm a judge - for the past 21 years. I was advised, by my Chief Of Officials when I first started, to read the rule book and get to know what was in it. I did - and turned into a monster.

His point, of course, was that if everyone knows the rules then there will be uniformity at every event. Of course, we know that reality is much different.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 15 May 2008, 23:26

Some coaches know the rules too!

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 16 May 2008, 01:31

Dennis wrote:Some coaches know the rules too!

And some boxers (and coaches) are officials, too!

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 16 May 2008, 08:51

Some coaches know the rules too!

Speaking of minorities!

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 16 May 2008, 08:55

Kolya wrote:
Dennis wrote:Some coaches know the rules too!
And some boxers (and coaches) are officials, too!

I knew the rules before becoming an official.

hello2007 · Post by **hello2007** » 16 May 2008, 19:46

dennis are you too also a judge

hello2007 · Post by **hello2007** » 16 May 2008, 19:47

yea I read the aiba and the usa rules. I'm sure canada's rules aren't much different at all.

hello2007 · Post by **hello2007** » 16 May 2008, 19:59

guys i got a question. How long do you guys think it takes to reach the Olympic level. I just started so I'm aiming at 2012. Is that reasonable

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 16 May 2008, 21:21

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guys i got a question. How long do you guys think it takes to reach the Olympic level. I just started so I'm aiming at 2012. Is that reasonable

Depends on what weight you are and your age. As an example, it took Oscar DeLaHoya 13 years to get to the Olympics and he started boxing at age 5 and, legally, at age 10. If you're in the heavier weights, it's somewhat easier if you start late and are older. And it will probably be difficult to do it in four years, no matter your age and/or weight. That's really a short amount of time to get national experience, win championships, go on international trips, etc. No harm in trying, however!

Canada's rules are the same as AIBA. The US is the only country that doesn't run by AIBA rules alone - too many lawyers. 8)

hello2007 · Post by **hello2007** » 17 May 2008, 01:33

I feel I can do it. I feel very confident after watching people fight their amateur fights on youtube. My friends tell me that you can average around 2 fights a month if your good and older<not a child, maybe even more sometimes. So thats a average of around 24 fights a year.
I heard that the path is novice regional/tournament fights, then open provincial fights, pan am, commwealth then olympics trials

I heard during a hbo telecast that reggie johnson had 90 fights in two years. How much do you need to get a chance?

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 17 May 2008, 02:25

hello2007 wrote:I feel I can do it. I feel very confident after watching people fight their amateur fights on youtube. My friends tell me that you can average around 2 fights a month if your good and older<not a child, maybe even more sometimes. So thats a average of around 24 fights a year.
I heard that the path is novice regional/tournament fights, then open provincial fights, pan am, commwealth then olympics trials

I heard during a hbo telecast that reggie johnson had 90 fights in two years. How much do you need to get a chance?

You're watching people boxing their local, entry level amateur bouts. Canada has a good amateur program, and the US is full of good amateurs, too. If you want to see the level these guys on the world stage are at, look some of the National team members up on Youtube; look up Demetrius Andrade as an example of what the level some of these guys are at truly is.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 19 May 2008, 16:04

boxmel wrote:
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guys i got a question. How long do you guys think it takes to reach the Olympic level. I just started so I'm aiming at 2012. Is that reasonable
Depends on what weight you are and your age. As an example, it took Oscar DeLaHoya 13 years to get to the Olympics and he started boxing at age 5 and, legally, at age 10. If you're in the heavier weights, it's somewhat easier if you start late and are older. And it will probably be difficult to do it in four years, no matter your age and/or weight. That's really a short amount of time to get national experience, win championships, go on international trips, etc. No harm in trying, however!

Canada's rules are the same as AIBA. The US is the only country that doesn't run by AIBA rules alone - too many lawyers. 8)

Careful Mel.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 19 May 2008, 16:08

Most Olympians have been boxing for 10 or more years and have over 100 bouts of experience. You can get 20 or more bouts per year, but that is a lot of wear and tear especially if your skill level is not good and you are getting hit a lot. It is also a lot of traveling and costs a lot.

There have been a few Olympians that have succeeded with limited amateur experience like George Foreman. However, George was very BIG and STRONG. AND he could punch very hard. Give it a try and see what happens. I would bet you won't have a shot at 2012, but there is always 2016. Train hard, compete and see what happens.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 19 May 2008, 16:22

There is NOTHING I appreciate more than having such a DISTINGUISHED and knowledgeable lawyer/coach reiterate my opinions. Makes my comments so much more weighty and definitely lends the element of truth to what I say.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 19 May 2008, 16:40

boxmel wrote:There is NOTHING I appreciate more than having such a DISTINGUISHED and knowledgeable lawyer/coach reiterate my opinions. Makes my comments so much more weighty and definitely lends the element of truth to what I say.

Everything I say is the truth.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 19 May 2008, 18:47

Everything I say is the truth.

Didn't you say your name is George Washington? Or is it Abe?

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 19 May 2008, 22:35

boxmel wrote:
Everything I say is the truth.
Didn't you say your name is George Washington? Or is it Abe?

I don't know you will have to go check out the back for a cherry tree.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 19 May 2008, 22:58

I don't know you will have to go check out the back for a cherry tree.

Naw - just send me a picture. 8)

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 20 May 2008, 00:46

Here is the proof.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 20 May 2008, 09:29

Damn - you must have been busier'nhell chopping down all those cherry trees!

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 20 May 2008, 14:16

Yeah, but I was honest about it.

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