David Haye rumours...

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 08 Mar 2004, 11:06

It's how you react to a knockdown that makes you, getting knocked down once doesn't make Haye chinny at all and now it's up to him to prove the doubters wrong, many thought Klitschko was a quitter after the Byrd fight and opinions soon changed when he fought Lewis and battled on through a bad cut. Don't judge Haye on one knockdown.

J · Post by J » 08 Mar 2004, 11:11

steve689 wrote:It's how you react to a knockdown that makes you, getting knocked down once doesn't make Haye chinny at all and now it's up to him to prove the doubters wrong, many thought Klitschko was a quitter after the Byrd fight and opinions soon changed when he fought Lewis and battled on through a bad cut. Don't judge Haye on one knockdown.

good point. But he does carry that lead hand too low! far too dangerous to do as he moives up with the better fighters. The other thing with David is its hard for him to get rounds under his belt as he keeps blasting them out..that could cause him problems as he moves up and finds a better level. Needs a solid 8 rounder under hos belt in my view but who could take him that far at this stage?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Mar 2004, 11:36

J wrote:
J wrote:
knockout wrote:i dont have any info on Haye, i was only aware of the Gurov sparring incident because it was at the gym i go to!!

Like Kilburn has said Gurov is a serious puncher and probably top 5 in the world....

And the sparring was pretty even, both landing heavy blows.....
another thing if they were going at it and the sparring was pretty even, Haye must be doing very well to be holding his own then against more seasoned and experienced training partner...just an observation/assumption!

i think its fair to say that unless he gets tagged on the button, Haye can live with any cruiserweight for 4 rounds... 12 rounds at this stage is a different matter

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 08 Mar 2004, 11:37

It won't be long before I hear of someones pet goldfish having decked "china chinned" David Haye....

Give it up.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 08 Mar 2004, 11:40

J wrote:
steve689 wrote:Needs a solid 8 rounder under hos belt in my view but who could take him that far at this stage?

What about Paul Bonson?

J · Post by J » 08 Mar 2004, 11:47

good call, not that I knew who he was until i just checked him out on the records archive! but looks like a solid chinned journeyman from his record and class of opponents even if he hasnt won many he doesnt get knocked out hey (not even by enzo)..or perhaps Haye going in with "spartacus" in a fight or two's time is realisitic.....

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 08 Mar 2004, 12:05

If you want a little bit more info, have a read of an interview with David Haye's trainer, Adam Booth on

http://www.britishboxing.net

On the news archive.

J · Post by J » 08 Mar 2004, 12:12

found it thanks mate, and nice article. ill be sure to book mark the page!

SWEET · Post by **SWEET** » 08 Mar 2004, 14:14

These rumours never stop making me laugh. Its like being in a school playground working in this business sometimes!

Let me make this as clear as possible........David DID spar with Gurov the other week, they sparred 4 hard rounds the first day, in which I feel Gurov came off second best in every exchange. Two days later they were due to spar another 4 rounds, but Gurov stepped out after 3. Neither of them hit the canvas, and David was never in any difficulty.

With regards to David and Danny Williams sparring, again neither of them hit the floor during any of their electrifying spars. (you would pay good money to see them!)

Finally, when he sparred with Greenburg, hardly a single punch was landed by either of them, so again, no knockdowns!

Where and why these rumours are started is anyones guess, but it must be by someone with an interest in discrediting David in some way.

Chinny????.........time will tell.
Exciting fast hard puncher??.........Make your own minds up.

Thomas Hearns did ok didnt he????
Being able to take a beating should not be a badge of honour.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 08 Mar 2004, 14:18

yeah guys, stop Hayeting. 8)

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 08 Mar 2004, 14:19

steve689 wrote:
J wrote:
steve689 wrote:Needs a solid 8 rounder under hos belt in my view but who could take him that far at this stage?
What about Paul Bonson?

I fancy Haye could stop Bonson... he throws quicker shots than Enzo and throws from more unorthodox angles....

SWEET · Post by **SWEET** » 08 Mar 2004, 14:32

Leave Bonson alone, why does everybody talk about someone trying to knock him out. He is like homer in the episode of the simpsons. Homer takes up boxing and is told that medically he cant be knocked out!!! This character was definately based on Bonson!!!

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 08 Mar 2004, 15:26

SWEET wrote:
Let me make this as clear as possible........David DID spar with Gurov the other week, they sparred 4 hard rounds the first day, in which I feel Gurov came off second best in every exchange. Two days later they were due to spar another 4 rounds, but Gurov stepped out after 3. Neither of them hit the canvas, and David was never in any difficulty.

With regards to David and Danny Williams sparring, again neither of them hit the floor during any of their electrifying spars. (you would pay good money to see them!)

Finally, when he sparred with Greenburg, hardly a single punch was landed by either of them, so again, no knockdowns!

Interesting account Sweet. I think Knockout mentioned something about Girov flooring Haye. He heard it as a rumour as he goes to the same gym but was not there at the time.

Do you know Knockout?

SWEET · Post by **SWEET** » 08 Mar 2004, 16:00

No, I dont know who knockout is, all I do know is that his info is a bit like chinese whispers. And WRONG.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 08 Mar 2004, 18:39

yeah the rumours are all wrong. Haye did a number on Gurov and the guy didn't want to continue and apparently was embarassed that he was getting beat by a guy with less than 10 pro fights.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 08 Mar 2004, 19:33

wasn't homer based on Peter McNeely? Guy whacks out a long line of stiffs then gets dqed against tyson (drederick tatum) when his manager intervenes (Moe).

Paul Bonson, as I've been wailing for ages, is a logical choice for Haye to get rounds. Bonson is cagey, runs around the ring with his chin tucked in and holds on for dear life if he gets hit. I think Bonson would find a way to survive against Haye.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 09 Mar 2004, 04:59

E wrote:Word on the grapevine is that David Haye was knocked out in Sparring by Alex Gurov.

I heard Danny Williams did it as well, although supposedly David put Williams over too as well as Greenberg.

Just rumours...you can never rely on them, but his chin does seem suspect.

I mean, future Cruiser/heavy stars do not get knocked out by Jim Twite or almost knocked out by a Light Heavy weight journeyman.

I hope David does really well, he would be great for British boxing....

Him and Enzo Macarinelli is surely the most exciting British fight out there. It should be made before either gets himself sparked. It won't due to promotional ties of course.

I saw the Greenberg session.

Greenberg put Haye over, not the other way round. It ws only a flash knockdown but apart form that the sessions were fairly even, but Greenberg was obviously stronger and appeared to have quicker hands.

J · Post by J » 09 Mar 2004, 05:09

Riddick Blowe wrote:wasn't homer based on Peter McNeely? Guy whacks out a long line of stiffs then gets dqed against tyson (drederick tatum) when his manager intervenes (Moe).

Paul Bonson, as I've been wailing for ages, is a logical choice for Haye to get rounds. Bonson is cagey, runs around the ring with his chin tucked in and holds on for dear life if he gets hit. I think Bonson would find a way to survive against Haye.

your the second guy to say that in a day or so, looks like a credible opponent and think it would do david good to get some rounds under his belt. Lets hope they make the match up.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 09 Mar 2004, 05:51

Guys, i said clearly in my first post HAYE DID NOT GET KNOCKED DOWN WHEN SPARRING GUROV....

What happened with Greenburg and Williams i dont know, but with Gurov I know what happened. It was an exciting session with both trading some big shots

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 09 Mar 2004, 06:04

Matchfixer wrote:
SWEET wrote:
Let me make this as clear as possible........David DID spar with Gurov the other week, they sparred 4 hard rounds the first day, in which I feel Gurov came off second best in every exchange. Two days later they were due to spar another 4 rounds, but Gurov stepped out after 3. Neither of them hit the canvas, and David was never in any difficulty.

With regards to David and Danny Williams sparring, again neither of them hit the floor during any of their electrifying spars. (you would pay good money to see them!)

Finally, when he sparred with Greenburg, hardly a single punch was landed by either of them, so again, no knockdowns!

Interesting account Sweet. I think Knockout mentioned something about Girov flooring Haye. He heard it as a rumour as he goes to the same gym but was not there at the time.

Do you know Knockout?

Knockout didn't say that Haye, or either man, was knocked down. He just said they went at it and it was exciting to watch.

SWEET · Post by **SWEET** » 09 Mar 2004, 06:07

Knockout.....go back and read the words you wrote...you are backtracking slightly.

Knockout artist.......it will be interesting to know who you are...cause you are either LYING about the Greenburg knockdown or truly beleive it happened, and therefor suffer from halucinations/schyzoid traits!

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 09 Mar 2004, 06:21

SWEET wrote:Knockout.....go back and read the words you wrote...you are backtracking slightly.

Knockout artist.......it will be interesting to know who you are...cause you are either LYING about the Greenburg knockdown or truly beleive it happened, and therefor suffer from halucinations/schyzoid traits!

Sweet: Quote my backtracking please....

post 1

"those rumours are incorrect.... sparring took place at the peacock gym.
they went toe to toe and it was a bit of a war...
it looked like one of them could hit the deck but neither did... "

post 2
"i dont have any info on Haye, i was only aware of the Gurov sparring incident because it was at the gym i go to!!

Like Kilburn has said Gurov is a serious puncher and probably top 5 in the world....

And the sparring was pretty even, both landing heavy blows....."

post 3
"i think its fair to say that unless he gets tagged on the button, Haye can live with any cruiserweight for 4 rounds... 12 rounds at this stage is a different matter"

post 4
"Guys, i said clearly in my first post HAYE DID NOT GET KNOCKED DOWN WHEN SPARRING GUROV....

What happened with Greenburg and Williams i dont know, but with Gurov I know what happened. It was an exciting session with both trading some big shots"

seems fairly consistent to me......

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 09 Mar 2004, 06:26

mickeybeard wrote:
Knockout didn't say that Haye, or either man, was knocked down. He just said they went at it and it was exciting to watch.

thank you sir

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 09 Mar 2004, 06:34

SWEET wrote:Knockout.....go back and read the words you wrote...you are backtracking slightly.

Knockout artist.......it will be interesting to know who you are...cause you are either LYING about the Greenburg knockdown or truly beleive it happened, and therefor suffer from halucinations/schyzoid traits!

For someone who has made a mere six posts on this forum you sure have a big mouth

I can assure you that I am not lying or hallucinating. The sparring took place in the gymnasium annexed to Jim Evans house in Maidenhead, Berkshire.

I was not the only person there, so there will be other witnesses.

In actual fact, Michael Sprott was there, and saw the session too.

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » 09 Mar 2004, 11:51

Was Sprotty training there.

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