Why do we resent our best boxers?
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I think it's safe to say that Hatton works hard and plays hard. I'm sure he enjoys himself. Are you saying he should buy himself a huge mansion in a gated community, do loads of coke and shag 2 grand a pop hookers, just because he's got the money to do so?
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I wouldn't put someone down like Mayorga or Mayweather would, I'd mix the arrogance and cockiness with a bit of class, for example I'd say "I respect what my opponent has achieved and his abilities but there's no way this guy's gonna beat me". Sure people would still hate me, but why let what other people think of you worry you. At the end of the day, all successful sportsmen/women are arrogant in someway because they have to be.
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The coke and hookers part is a bit over the top, but sure i'd buy a mansion, own expensive supercars etc. If you've made your millions through sports or whatever why shouldn't you splash the cash? It's your money, you've earned it.states wrote:I think it's safe to say that Hatton works hard and plays hard. I'm sure he enjoys himself. Are you saying he should buy himself a huge mansion in a gated community, do loads of coke and shag 2 grand a pop hookers, just because he's got the money to do so?
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But what if you don't want to? What if you're happy where you are?
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Manchester Massive
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I agree Hatton's man of the people routine can be tiresome but still see him as one of the best we have produced, Tysuzu annihilated Mitchell only 7 months before he fought Hatton and he was still very close to his best, in my opinion best performance by Brit since Honeyghan beat Curry. He seems a nice enough guy and unsure why those who know their boxing seem to dislike him so much. Khan is arrogant but he does have talent and the fact that Calzaghe is quiet doesn't mean he's devoid of personality, seems pretty modest to me given what he's achieved and he is arguably THE best boxer Britain has produced. I reckon a lot down to jealousy.
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I think a lot of it is down to expectation. We all know that Hatton and Calzaghe are good, and we knew Khan was a special amateur, and expect him to be a top quality pro. When you're at that top level, you get judged by a different standard.
Calzaghe and Hatton, for instance have both achieved far more than Froch or Witter. Yet Joe and Ricky get far more criticism than that pair, because they're at the top. Of course, there's a lot of petty stuff thrown in as well. But when you're at the top, you're there to get shot at.
Calzaghe and Hatton, for instance have both achieved far more than Froch or Witter. Yet Joe and Ricky get far more criticism than that pair, because they're at the top. Of course, there's a lot of petty stuff thrown in as well. But when you're at the top, you're there to get shot at.
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Like I said earlier it's down to preference if you want to be quiet and normal so be it, but why slate someone for being loud and brash? A lot of the problem is we Brits see "loud and brash" as being too American and for some reason won't accept people who act like that.states wrote:But what if you don't want to? What if you're happy where you are?
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Arbachakov
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Bruno was an uncle tom though. 
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But you seem to be having a go at Hatton for being wealthy, yet not living large.banjo wrote:Like I said earlier it's down to preference if you want to be quiet and normal so be it, but why slate someone for being loud and brash? A lot of the problem is we Brits see "loud and brash" as being too American and for some reason won't accept people who act like that.states wrote:But what if you don't want to? What if you're happy where you are?
I have no problem with anyone giving it the big one, as long as they back it up. Christ, I used to love Naz. But equally, I don't care if Hatton plays the humble card. Maybe it's false, and certainly those of us who've followed him for the last ten years have heard it all before. But if he's happy in the area he grew up in, why slate him for being the guy that made it? Yes, he's different from the guys that have to work 9 to 5 in dead end jobs, but I have no reason to doubt him when he says that the mates he had as a kid are the same people he's friends with now. It's not all a marketing ploy.
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If Ricky Hatton was Humble, Quiet and the "People's Champ" he would not have Charged £15 PPV. He cannot Pin this on the Promotions, since he is the Fighter..
If he wants Money, so be it, its him in the Ring, i would do the Same. But dont play the "People's Champ" Card
If he wants Money, so be it, its him in the Ring, i would do the Same. But dont play the "People's Champ" Card
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observer1 wrote:If Ricky Hatton was Humble, Quiet and the "People's Champ" he would not have Charged £15 PPV. He cannot Pin this on the Promotions, since he is the Fighter..
If he wants Money, so be it, its him in the Ring, i would do the Same. But dont play the "People's Champ" Card
But why not? It works for fornicate sake, ITS CALLED PROMOTING
What sort of promoter doesnt promote his fights by appealing to a fan base?
I am dying, just dying for some clown to come on here and say "Hatton could learn a lot from Witter" or some such.
Berk, get a fornicating clue
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Unfortunately it's a british disease to slag successful fighters. It won't make me popular but most of the posters here are never-will-have, fat, losers and are jealous of the top guys. Also the internet provides a safe and anonymous way to slag winners off.
The grief Hatton gets here is so beyond reason. He has made mistakes like anyone. But he has got boxing back on the front pages, has fought the best, and has provided good fights. He should be celebrated not berated.
The grief Hatton gets here is so beyond reason. He has made mistakes like anyone. But he has got boxing back on the front pages, has fought the best, and has provided good fights. He should be celebrated not berated.
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I agree totally there mate. I don't understand the criticism he gets but I guess that's the English mentality - it doesn't make sense because we crave success in sport but when we find someone who has been successful we slag them off. It's not just Hatton, it's Calzaghe and Khan as well. I also understand the frustration of not fighting the best from early on in their career but that shouldn't be reason for defamatory comments about them. I don't like or rate Junior Witter but I wouldn't be slagging him off on the internet daily, or everytime he wins - I crisitise his performances in a reflective and obscenest manor instead of ridiculously insulting remarks. It would actually be funny for some of the lads on here to say some of these comments to their faces - their asses would soon close.E wrote:The grief Hatton gets here is so beyond reason. He has made mistakes like anyone. But he has got boxing back on the front pages, has fought the best, and has provided good fights. He should be celebrated not berated.
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And KG is just a lady boy loving twat, so don't you go listening to him Shitman.hitman_hatton1 wrote:don't listen to john smiths man.Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:ArtOfWar wrote:I don't really support any boxer who doesn't look to fight the best opponant each and every time they step inside the ring.
Ugh. no fighter in the history of the world has done this, for fucks sake
Man, you're so hardcore you dont like anyone!!!!!
Berk
very set in his ways that one.
p.s Take your tongue out of Richard's arse. :)
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And KG is just a lady boy loving twat, so don't you go listening to him Shitman.ArtOfWar wrote:hitman_hatton1"]don't listen to john smiths man.Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:ArtOfWar wrote:I don't really support any boxer who doesn't look to fight the best opponant each and every time they step inside the ring.
Ugh. no fighter in the history of the world has done this, for fucks sake
Man, you're so hardcore you dont like anyone!!!!!
Berk
very set in his ways that one.
p.s Take your tongue out of Richard's arse. :)[/quote]
Right on both counts!
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Blimey, have you been following me to Nana Plaza again?ArtOfWar wrote:
And KG is just a lady boy loving twat, so don't you go listening to him Shitman.