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Life before allegedly

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i need a history lesson

who was the leading Promoters before allegedly came along, where they any good? how would they do in todays world?
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REAL_DEAL wrote:i need a history lesson

who was the leading Promoters before allegedly came along, where they any good? how would they do in todays world?
Duff and Lawless had the promotional game sewn up before Warren came along.
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Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Yes, the cartel featuring Duff, Lawless and Estair had an exclusive contract with the BBC, which puts Warren's deal with sky in the shade, they were British boxing. Things are far more competitive now....it's worth remembering that when slagging off sports network, that it replaced something far worserer than it wasserer.
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bennie wrote:
REAL_DEAL wrote:i need a history lesson

who was the leading Promoters before allegedly came along, where they any good? how would they do in todays world?
Duff and Lawless had the promotional game sewn up before Warren came along.

and like any monopoly it was very bad for the "customer"
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I remember seeing a documentary on allegedly with footage of his younger days when he used to postively love getting one over on Mickey Duff. He revelled in it and was the main reason why that little cartel was broken up. Good.

Duff railed against Warren, apparently threatening him with court action as well as less judicious reprisals. Warren lapped it up. Duff saw new promoters coming through and felt threatened by their product. He became paranoid.

Anyone see where I'm going?
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I remember seeing a documentary on allegedly with footage of his younger days when he used to postively love getting one over on Mickey Duff. He revelled in it and was the main reason why that little cartel was broken up. Good.

Duff railed against Warren, apparently threatening him with court action as well as less judicious reprisals. Warren lapped it up. Duff saw new promoters coming through and felt threatened by their product. He became paranoid.

Anyone see where I'm going?
classic post...........
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To paraphrase a recurring theme from the BOTP forum:

I would like to know how good is former British boxing promoter Mickey Duff who managed John The Beast Mugabi in the early 80s? Also how tall was Duff in height? Was he impressive? Can anybody find and help me out.

Silkov can you help me out please?

:D
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Post by J »

read book recently where its pretty well documented that Frank started promoting "on the cobbles" Lenny Mclean vs Roy shaw being the first of his promotions!!!! Just a point of interest for you guys!

Gotta rush wish you all a great weekend enjoy the (massive) action this weekend I cant wait...take care and be good :lol: :D
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Post by bennie »

Eric the Viking wrote:To paraphrase a recurring theme from the BOTP forum:

I would like to know how good is former British boxing promoter Mickey Duff who managed John The Beast Mugabi in the early 80s? Also how tall was Duff in height? Was he impressive? Can anybody find and help me out.

Silkov can you help me out please?

:D
Christ, who is that guy? He's single-handedly boring a decent forum into submission. I get the impression he ejaculates every time he discovers a fighter's height.
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I remember seeing a documentary on allegedly with footage of his younger days when he used to postively love getting one over on Mickey Duff. He revelled in it and was the main reason why that little cartel was broken up. Good.

Duff railed against Warren, apparently threatening him with court action as well as less judicious reprisals. Warren lapped it up. Duff saw new promoters coming through and felt threatened by their product. He became paranoid.

Anyone see where I'm going?
I see where you're trying to go, but, if you think for even one second that the young Mick Hennessy is a patch on allegedly you're on drugs.

Warren will be the top promoter in Britain for as long as he wants.
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FlawedGenius wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I remember seeing a documentary on allegedly with footage of his younger days when he used to postively love getting one over on Mickey Duff. He revelled in it and was the main reason why that little cartel was broken up. Good.

Duff railed against Warren, apparently threatening him with court action as well as less judicious reprisals. Warren lapped it up. Duff saw new promoters coming through and felt threatened by their product. He became paranoid.

Anyone see where I'm going?
I see where you're trying to go, but, if you think for even one second that the young Mick Hennessy is a patch on allegedly you're on drugs.

Warren will be the top promoter in Britain for as long as he wants.
I can't understand why Frankie boy is so paranoid. It's almost as if he knows he's number one, knows he's on to a good thing, and the slightest challenge - and I mean slightest - has to be stamped on immediately in case it spirals into a bigger challenge and jeapordises his position.
The term control freak springs to mind.
Still, at least you know where you stand with the guy. If you mess, he's going to hang you out to dry.
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REAL_DEAL wrote:i need a history lesson

who was the leading Promoters before allegedly came along, where they any good? how would they do in todays world?
Bye the way, allegedly got his start in Boxing promoting ulicensed fights and handling ulicensed fighters such as the late Lenny McLean, before he got his BBBC License.

Apparently they were very popular shows, at least thats what I have read.
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Post by hitman_hatton1 »

one thing about the duff/lawless fighters at least they used to regularly gets shots at the genuine big 3 world titles. frank warrens fighters haven't fought for one of the genuine big 3 in over 3 yrs.

they were good at using the sanctioning bodies to there advantage and securing mandatories something that warren isn't as good at except for the wbo title.
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Eric the Viking wrote: Also how tall was Duff in height? Was he impressive?
Yes he was an impressively tall 5 foot 4", including his swept back hair.
Please pass this info onto your mate a BOTP.
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MightyWarrior wrote:
Eric the Viking wrote: Also how tall was Duff in height? Was he impressive?
Yes he was an impressively tall 5 foot 4", including his swept back hair.
Please pass this info onto your mate a BOTP.
Thanks, MW - I'm slipping a copy of your note through the slot in his cell door now, along with his afternoon meds.

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Post by TheRiverCityHippy »

jack solomons was the main promoter before duff and lawless. he basically ran british boxing for years.
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