Most Hyped Fighters Of All Time

[Martin Sosa Cameron]

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[Nile4000]

From the past Alex Ramos. By early 1982 the press acted as though he were already champion. I could tell they were doing a well executed hype job for him, although the only other time I'd seen it was with Leonard. Thank God his career came crashing down as soon as it did (that same summer)

Same kind of thing with Johnny Bumphus who really had nothing going for him and very poorly suited for the professional ranks-sort of puny and frail, not much upper body strength, couldn't crack an egg, slow. Hell I probably could kick his ass myself without half trying.

Gerry Cooney, a true hype job at least had something going for him despite his lack of any real competition. The fight he put up with Holmes had made a believer of me. A believer that he could at least take out most of the other heavies; Weaver, Coetzee.

Greg Page-a definite hype job. The suppossed second coming of Ali never panned out, the result of bestowing too much glory too soon upon the pretender.

But that's how the press was they loved pretenders.

Another pretender was Donald the Cobra Curry. A few wins over a handful of inept competitors and inconsequential ex contenders (Marlon Starling, James Green, Colin Jones, Milt McCrory) made him into a leading glamour boy for the covers. It was clearly evident the press had a major hard on for this guy. The reason? He reminded them of the dear departed Sugar Ray leonard. he was "filling the void" left in his absence.

The first real competition he faced put an end to this farce altogether. I'm not talking inept bunglers such as Marlon Starling or little boys like Milt McCrory but real men capable of meting out brute force in the manner displayed by Lloyd honeyghan and McCallum. Lloyd himself even tho a sizable underdog knew Donald was just a classic case of another shletered media hype job and tore him apart early on.

The biggest hype job all all, the ultimate hype job, the pocket sized Ali and copycat, complete with his own version of the 3 year layoff. Who else of course but Ray Leonard, built into legendary status and who eventually ran into his own Honeyghan which he tried desperately to avert until his game of russian roulette caught up with him. Never had the world seen so much praise heaped upon a man who had done so little.

Page deserved a lot of the hype, but he just didn't train, and subconsciously, was not into boxing.

[Ezzard]

I hold my hand up and say I massively over-hyped Lonnie Smith. I saw him blow away a bemused Billy Costello and thought a superstar had been born. I went around telling anyone who would listen that Smith was boxing's next great.

Curry and Breland did achieve a lot but they were still over-hyped.

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[Counter-puncher]

Another pretender was Donald the Cobra Curry. A few wins over a handful of inept competitors and inconsequential ex contenders (Marlon Starling, James Green, Colin Jones, Milt McCrory) made him into a leading glamour boy for the covers. It was clearly evident the press had a major hard on for this guy. The reason? He reminded them of the dear departed Sugar Ray leonard. he was "filling the void" left in his absence.

The first real competition he faced put an end to this farce altogether. I'm not talking inept bunglers such as Marlon Starling or little boys like Milt McCrory but real men capable of meting out brute force in the manner displayed by Lloyd honeyghan and McCallum. Lloyd himself even tho a sizable underdog knew Donald was just a classic case of another shletered media hype job and tore him apart early on.

The biggest hype job all all, the ultimate hype job, the pocket sized Ali and copycat, complete with his own version of the 3 year layoff. Who else of course but Ray Leonard, built into legendary status and who eventually ran into his own Honeyghan which he tried desperately to avert until his game of russian roulette caught up with him. Never had the world seen so much praise heaped upon a man who had done so little.

you manage to make yourself look worse every time you ineptly- since thats a favourite word of yours- pat away at your keyboard. i thought you may be a wind-up merchant just trying to get a bite, but the consistent bile that spills out of you suggests that you actually believe what you say, however alarmingly counter-intuitive (and nigh-fantastical) what you say is.

if you truly think Marlon Starling was an 'inept bungler' you are beyond even my contempt, i think you have even gone full circle and I can now regard you as a purveyor of unintended comedy in much the same way as a dan quayle or george w bush of boxing forums.

as for your 'real man capable of meeting out brute force' Lloyd Honeygan, what a farcical statement. you do know, I presume, that Lloyd not only managed to lose to the posterboy of overhyped fighters, the same Mark Breland we began this thread with, but also to the 'inept bungler' Marlon Starling?

yeah, Lloyd 'meeted out' some 'real man's 'brute force' to Starling that night. I heard Starling's hands never recovered from the brutal treatment meted out to them by the 'real man's jaw of Honeygan. yeah, Starling sure 'bungled' lloyd to death that night, the first recorded case of bungling ineptitude damafging someone's jaw so badly it looks like he's got an alien growing in there.

this is a Honeygan who had already struggled with the poor man's milt mccrory (a fighter you decribe as a 'little boy'... by the way... 'little boys' are not in the habit of going 10 rounds with a peak McCallum at 154lbs... if Milt was such a little boy, explain to me how he did that.... go on, explain how he managed to go longer with Mike than jackson and curry put together... or is Julian jackson yet another little boy in your pantheon of boxing bile? )that was Maurice Blocker.

you also mention how small honeygan was. really? so how come in the fights after breland he was weighing in between 154 and 159lbs, genius, and immediately went to lightmiddle having lost to breland? explain that one too whilst you are at it.

the same honeygan who then managed to lose to the vastly overhyped vinny pazienza and the fistic luminary that was Adrian Dodson who you probably have never heard of never mind seen him fight. if ray leonard had lost to fighters that limited you would NEVER stop talking about it. how do i know? your tedious repeated references to terry norris.

can someone tell me how i can put this clown on ignore please? i can laugh at him but sooner or later he will adversely effect my blood pressure. thanks.

[Elton John]

Another pretender was Donald the Cobra Curry. A few wins over a handful of inept competitors and inconsequential ex contenders (Marlon Starling, James Green, Colin Jones, Milt McCrory) made him into a leading glamour boy for the covers. It was clearly evident the press had a major hard on for this guy. The reason? He reminded them of the dear departed Sugar Ray leonard. he was "filling the void" left in his absence.

The first real competition he faced put an end to this farce altogether. I'm not talking inept bunglers such as Marlon Starling or little boys like Milt McCrory but real men capable of meting out brute force in the manner displayed by Lloyd honeyghan and McCallum. Lloyd himself even tho a sizable underdog knew Donald was just a classic case of another shletered media hype job and tore him apart early on.

The biggest hype job all all, the ultimate hype job, the pocket sized Ali and copycat, complete with his own version of the 3 year layoff. Who else of course but Ray Leonard, built into legendary status and who eventually ran into his own Honeyghan which he tried desperately to avert until his game of russian roulette caught up with him. Never had the world seen so much praise heaped upon a man who had done so little.

you manage to make yourself look worse every time you ineptly- since thats a favourite word of yours- pat away at your keyboard. i thought you may be a wind-up merchant just trying to get a bite, but the consistent bile that spills out of you suggests that you actually believe what you say, however alarmingly counter-intuitive (and nigh-fantastical) what you say is.

if you truly think Marlon Starling was an 'inept bungler' you are beyond even my contempt, i think you have even gone full circle and I can now regard you as a purveyor of unintended comedy in much the same way as a dan quayle or george w bush of boxing forums.

as for your 'real man capable of meeting out brute force' Lloyd Honeygan, what a farcical statement. you do know, I presume, that Lloyd not only managed to lose to the posterboy of overhyped fighters, the same Mark Breland we began this thread with, but also to the 'inept bungler' Marlon Starling?

yeah, Lloyd 'meeted out' some 'real man's 'brute force' to Starling that night. I heard Starling's hands never recovered from the brutal treatment meted out to them by the 'real man's jaw of Honeygan. yeah, Starling sure 'bungled' lloyd to death that night, the first recorded case of bungling ineptitude damafging someone's jaw so badly it looks like he's got an alien growing in there.

this is a Honeygan who had already struggled with the poor man's milt mccrory (a fighter you decribe as a 'little boy'... by the way... 'little boys' are not in the habit of going 10 rounds with a peak McCallum at 154lbs... if Milt was such a little boy, explain to me how he did that.... go on, explain how he managed to go longer with Mike than jackson and curry put together... or is Julian jackson yet another little boy in your pantheon of boxing bile? )that was Maurice Blocker.

you also mention how small honeygan was. really? so how come in the fights after breland he was weighing in between 154 and 159lbs, genius, and immediately went to lightmiddle having lost to breland? explain that one too whilst you are at it.

the same honeygan who then managed to lose to the vastly overhyped vinny pazienza and the fistic luminary that was Adrian Dodson who you probably have never heard of never mind seen him fight. if ray leonard had lost to fighters that limited you would NEVER stop talking about it. how do i know? your tedious repeated references to terry norris.

can someone tell me how i can put this clown on ignore please? i can laugh at him but sooner or later he will adversely effect my blood pressure. thanks.

A quick and simple method I use is simply not go thru the trouble of reading the post. However I give everyone consideration and read thru them even when I dont agree with their views, such as Ringsider and Ambling Alp whom I consider both to be clueless.

Let's stop this Lloyd bashing. Lloyd deserves his accolades because he easily accomplished what the others could not including the peaceful counterpunching Starling who failed both times to defeat Donald, even Donald with a flu

I couldn't get over how crude and utterly incompetent Starling was. At least Curry had an excuse for his showing but Starling had no clue whatsoever what it took to win fights, and repeatedly stomping the canvas. An intimidation tactic perhaps?

How he made it onto network television is beyond me other than the networks just not having enough quality inventory at affordble prices. We all know most fighters are overpriced anyways.

The rematch televised on Wide World of Sports ABC was predictably one sided. I really didn't expect anything but failure from Starling who would lose bouts he wasn't expected to (Johnny Bumphus, Pedro Villela) but nevertheless I made it thru the one sided showing while longing for the days of Sugar Ray Leonard and Davey Boy Green.

Starling who was SUPPOSSED to be the second best welter after Donald, just couldnt win the big one over the man of the hour. It didnt seem to occur to him he needed to take the fight to the champion in order to win it. But effective aggression is not his strength--that is clear to anyone who has ever watched him.

Lloyd on the other hand was made of supreme stock and took the fight to him immediately. I was quite pleased over the way he overpowered Donald so quickly, snapping Donald's head over and over and taking him out of his game plan. He utterly destroyed Donald's career.

He did the same with Starling's other conqueror, Bumphus the following year. In fact, Lloyd couldn't wait to get to him, punching his lights out as Johnny arose from his stool. Marlon would take all day when he was good and ready before deciding if he was going to throw a punch.

Fortunately for Marlon he was still around when Breland came along and with enough persistence, finally won his title for a few months.

[Collins2000]

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[Elton John]

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it's okay Collins. We all know you're just intimidated. Perhaps a little frightened? :P

[Diamond WEAPON]

Is this just for Overhyped fighters or can it be just Hyped fighters in general, as in their hype is of an extraordinary magnitude but they are deserving of most of it still?

Either way, nowadays there's Chavez Jr., who's already headlined a few PPVs

[Counter-puncher]

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A quick and simple method I use is simply not to reply to any questions that expose me for the fool that I am. However I give everyone consideration and read thru them even when I dont agree with their views, such as Ringsider and Ambling Alp whom I consider both to be clueless.

Let's stop this Lloyd bashing. Lloyd deserves his accolades because he easily accomplished what the others could not including the peaceful counterpunching Starling who failed both times to defeat Donald, even Donald with a flu




Starling who was SUPPOSSED to be the second best welter after Donald, just couldnt win the big one over the man of the hour. It didnt seem to occur to him he needed to take the fight to the champion in order to win it. But effective aggression is not his strength--that is clear to anyone who has ever watched him.

Lloyd on the other hand was made of supreme stock and took the fight to him immediately. I was quite pleased over the way he overpowered Donald so quickly, snapping Donald's head over and over and taking him out of his game plan. He utterly destroyed Donald's career.

He did the same with Starling's other conqueror, Bumphus the following year. In fact, Lloyd couldn't wait to get to him, punching his lights out as Johnny arose from his stool. Marlon would take all day when he was good and ready before deciding if he was going to throw a punch.

Fortunately for Marlon he was still around when Breland came along and with enough persistence, finally won his title for a few months.

right so tell me

(1) if lloyd was made of such strong stock how comes the 'inept' starling battered him senseless? the same starling who apparently took a lightyear to decide to throw a punch, yet had the Ragamuffin Man all over the shop by mid-rounds.

(1a) ditto if lloyd was made of such strong stock how comes the pencil necked no-chinned overhyped wonder Breland beat him- and so, soooooo convincingly, at that? 'supreme stock', if you can tell me what drugs you are on I wouldn't mind getting some in for the weekend.

(1b) interested to hear your take on the Tony Dodson fight. Dodson wasn't, bless him, even world level. guess what he did to Lloyd? go on, guess...... he was no Terry Norris, not even a jeff Lacy, so where that should leave ragamuffin Man in your rankings i have no idea. somewhere behind Luis Santana I suppose

(2) If milt mccrory was such a 'little boy' how did he go 10 rds with a peak Mike McCallum ( a 'real man') at 154lbs

(3) you didn't enjoy Starling - Curry 2? obviously you're not a fan of the more subtle aspects of boxing.

(4) Johnny bumphus was so finished by the time he got in the ring with honeygan, he had ambulances chasing the lawyers that were chasing him.

(5) if honeygan was so 'small' next to curry how come he went to lightmiddle right after the breland fight and weighed in around 158lbs for nontitle bouts?

(6) i'm not lloyd-bashing. I'm british, I guarantee i cheered him louder and lamented him longer than you did. however i can see his limitations as I am not so desperate as you to use him as a (badly-chosen) case to try to 'bash' 2 fighters in starling and curry that were basically better than he was. he got curry at the right time, simple as that.

[Elton John]

Excuses excuses. All that matters is winning the big one (Norris with Leonard, LH with Curry) which Marlon couldnt do if he were given ten tries with the same man. Lloyd easily disposed of them both and made it look easy.

[Elton John]

I never said Lloyd was small next to Curry. You misread my post.

[Nile4000]

Howard Davies Junior was massively hyped. A great amateur who was clearly not cutting it as a professional puncher, his hands looked open half the time, and who choked on his own hype in his first tilt at the title. Threatening to withdraw the week of the bout itself.

Then he goes into a later fight with Tony Baltazar in which he flurried and was put down twice, lost a few rounds and scraped through on the rounds scoring system.

The signs were there in the early fights but people still compared him to Ray Leonard based on his amateur achievements. The hype went beyond the point of its own justification.

Never knew that his win over Vilomar Fernandez was highly controversial.