SLIMEBAGS GO WHERE THE MONEY IS.
Last year, Marc Ratner, the longtime executive director of the Nevada boxing commission, resigned to take a job with the UFC, a mixed martial arts company.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_ ... s_voi.html
SLIMEBAGS GO WHERE THE MONEY IS.
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People go where the money is period.
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New Jersey is one of the few states to have sanctioned Ultimate Fighting. According to Larry Hazzard, commissioner of the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board, the sport has been safe and successful.
"Thus far, I have found it less brutal — in the long run and in terms of long-range injuries — than boxing," says Hazzard, a former boxer. "And it has a committed following. Certain shows have packed the (14,000-seat) Boardwalk Convention Center."
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2004- ... aked.shtml
"Thus far, I have found it less brutal — in the long run and in terms of long-range injuries — than boxing," says Hazzard, a former boxer. "And it has a committed following. Certain shows have packed the (14,000-seat) Boardwalk Convention Center."
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2004- ... aked.shtml
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It is less brutal than boxing.
It is also sanctioned heavily in Nevada.
I think you will find that a great many fight doctors
will confirm that boxing has more negative side effects
to a fighter than MMA does.
The perceptions that MMA is more brutal and damaging are
just thjat perceptions. In all off my MMA fights I have never
been hit clean in the head. Though when boxing sparring
against boxers, kickboxers and other MMAers I have taken
more concussive shots to the head.
This is where the risk is. In MMA, the ref stops the fight if
a fighter is taking to much damage or if the fighter 'taps out'.
One fighter died in MMA in 80+ years of competition (including
hybrids in japan and no rules in brazil), that fighter fought in
an unsanctioned quasi kickboxing match in Russia. (it was more
kickboxing with throws than actuall MMA)
How many boxers have died inside those ropes since the 30s ?
How many have been crippled ?
I think that is the point that Mr Hazzard was trying to make.
Kym
It is also sanctioned heavily in Nevada.
I think you will find that a great many fight doctors
will confirm that boxing has more negative side effects
to a fighter than MMA does.
The perceptions that MMA is more brutal and damaging are
just thjat perceptions. In all off my MMA fights I have never
been hit clean in the head. Though when boxing sparring
against boxers, kickboxers and other MMAers I have taken
more concussive shots to the head.
This is where the risk is. In MMA, the ref stops the fight if
a fighter is taking to much damage or if the fighter 'taps out'.
One fighter died in MMA in 80+ years of competition (including
hybrids in japan and no rules in brazil), that fighter fought in
an unsanctioned quasi kickboxing match in Russia. (it was more
kickboxing with throws than actuall MMA)
How many boxers have died inside those ropes since the 30s ?
How many have been crippled ?
I think that is the point that Mr Hazzard was trying to make.
Kym
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Exactly, like I posted in another thread a few days ago, it is the prolonged beatings in boxing that make it more dangerous than MMA. Guys in MMA don't go down and keep getting up to take more and more punishment for an extended period of time, the fights simply don't last long enough for that. The fights most detrimental to fighters' health are the long brutal ones like Mancini-Kim or Chavez-Taylor, where one guy is just getting pounded on for well over a half hour. Quitting also isn't frowned upon in MMA the way it is in Boxing, plenty of the best fighters will tap out if in a submission hold or taking too much punishment and it's no big deal, but when a fighter retires in his corner in boxing or gives up in the middle of the round they more often get criticized. Look at Acelino Freitas.Robinson wrote:It is less brutal than boxing.
It is also sanctioned heavily in Nevada.
I think you will find that a great many fight doctors
will confirm that boxing has more negative side effects
to a fighter than MMA does.
The perceptions that MMA is more brutal and damaging are
just thjat perceptions. In all off my MMA fights I have never
been hit clean in the head. Though when boxing sparring
against boxers, kickboxers and other MMAers I have taken
more concussive shots to the head.
This is where the risk is. In MMA, the ref stops the fight if
a fighter is taking to much damage or if the fighter 'taps out'.
One fighter died in MMA in 80+ years of competition (including
hybrids in japan and no rules in brazil), that fighter fought in
an unsanctioned quasi kickboxing match in Russia. (it was more
kickboxing with throws than actuall MMA)
How many boxers have died inside those ropes since the 30s ?
How many have been crippled ?
I think that is the point that Mr Hazzard was trying to make.
Kym
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Clueless, as expected.
The point here is the betrayal of boxing--by the very people entrusted with the positions of authority over it.
Boxing went into the toilet during the very time period Ratner was in Las Vegas and Hazzard was in New Jersey.
At a certain point ALL of the big fights started and kept taking place in those two locations.
Before that I used to go to the Philly Spectrum to see top level boxing and championship fights.
Then Atlantic City and Las Vegas took over completely.
And the very scumbags who engineered the sending of boxing down the toilet now abandon what they destroyed and move on to the MMA crap.
Ratner throws in with the MMA as a hired employee.
Larry Hazzard was a referee who had only a couple years experience when acting commissioner Bob Lee starting giving him every big Atlantic City fight.
Other long experienced referees, who were blacked out once the Hazzard era started,
pointed out the total incompetence of Larry Hazzard as a 'referee' :
Coming up behind one of the two fighters and suddenly yelling in his ear;
touching ONE of the two fighters from behind;
CONSTANTLY moving---when he was in the right position to see--he would move OUT of position.
It was well known among boxing people in New Jersey and Philly that Hazzard was a black muslim.
He had the exact haircut and clothes.
He worked closely with Butch Lewis and Lewis' fighter Michael Spinks.
Hazzard did a bangup job for Spinks when he came up BEHIND Vonzell Johnson and touched him and then shot away, causing Johnson to step back, thinking the ref was breaking a clinch and had touched BOTH fighters.
Result--Spinks, who could see Hazzard coming up behind Johnson. hit Johnson when Johnson stepped back, knocking him down
with Hazzard then running in with a grin and stopping the fight.
Johnson would never have been knocked down without Hazzard's action.
That was the fight where Johnson's cornerman Angelo Dundee said on national TV between rounds to his fighter, "If he [Spinks] hits you with another elbow, kick him."
Acting as a judge in the fight where Eddie Davis beat the hell out of Spinks, Hazzard was there to give Spinks almost every round.
In the fight between Jerry Martin and Saad Muhammed, Jerry Martin was the only one involved who was not a member of the club.
The referee, Larry Hazzard, was a muslim. Martin's opponent, Saad Muhammed, was a muslim. Saad's managers were muslim. And the promoter, Murad Muhammed, was a muslim.
Hazzard's 'refereeing' in that fight was a farce, blatantly working for Saad Muhammed.
Hazzard was a piece of garbage as a referee.
And what was his reward?
He was made BOXING COMMISSIONER OF NEW JERSEY.
"Mr." Hazzard my a**.
Now it turns out slimebag Hazzard, who certainly knows where the money is,
betrayed boxing WHILE boxing commissioner and sold out to the MMA.
With Ratner and Hazzard both betraying boxing in that fashion, they both demonstrated their treachery to boxing, and the fact that each had no allegiance to anything but their own careers and finances.
New York was not a big site for important fights once Atlantic City and Las Vegas took over, but it is interesting to see that former New York boxng commissioner Randy Gordon now has a cable [?] show where he highlights MMA and hardly mentions boxing.
These slimebags were entrusted with positions of authority over boxing, and now they eagerly demonstrate their only interest is in their own careers, and to hell with boxing.
Both Hazzard and Randy Gordon lied about having extensive amateur boxing careers. Randy Gordon claimed a 37-2 record as an amateur, while Hazzard claims he won three Golden Glove titles. Both are lying.
The point here is the betrayal of boxing--by the very people entrusted with the positions of authority over it.
Boxing went into the toilet during the very time period Ratner was in Las Vegas and Hazzard was in New Jersey.
At a certain point ALL of the big fights started and kept taking place in those two locations.
Before that I used to go to the Philly Spectrum to see top level boxing and championship fights.
Then Atlantic City and Las Vegas took over completely.
And the very scumbags who engineered the sending of boxing down the toilet now abandon what they destroyed and move on to the MMA crap.
Ratner throws in with the MMA as a hired employee.
Larry Hazzard was a referee who had only a couple years experience when acting commissioner Bob Lee starting giving him every big Atlantic City fight.
Other long experienced referees, who were blacked out once the Hazzard era started,
pointed out the total incompetence of Larry Hazzard as a 'referee' :
Coming up behind one of the two fighters and suddenly yelling in his ear;
touching ONE of the two fighters from behind;
CONSTANTLY moving---when he was in the right position to see--he would move OUT of position.
It was well known among boxing people in New Jersey and Philly that Hazzard was a black muslim.
He had the exact haircut and clothes.
He worked closely with Butch Lewis and Lewis' fighter Michael Spinks.
Hazzard did a bangup job for Spinks when he came up BEHIND Vonzell Johnson and touched him and then shot away, causing Johnson to step back, thinking the ref was breaking a clinch and had touched BOTH fighters.
Result--Spinks, who could see Hazzard coming up behind Johnson. hit Johnson when Johnson stepped back, knocking him down
with Hazzard then running in with a grin and stopping the fight.
Johnson would never have been knocked down without Hazzard's action.
That was the fight where Johnson's cornerman Angelo Dundee said on national TV between rounds to his fighter, "If he [Spinks] hits you with another elbow, kick him."
Acting as a judge in the fight where Eddie Davis beat the hell out of Spinks, Hazzard was there to give Spinks almost every round.
In the fight between Jerry Martin and Saad Muhammed, Jerry Martin was the only one involved who was not a member of the club.
The referee, Larry Hazzard, was a muslim. Martin's opponent, Saad Muhammed, was a muslim. Saad's managers were muslim. And the promoter, Murad Muhammed, was a muslim.
Hazzard's 'refereeing' in that fight was a farce, blatantly working for Saad Muhammed.
Hazzard was a piece of garbage as a referee.
And what was his reward?
He was made BOXING COMMISSIONER OF NEW JERSEY.
"Mr." Hazzard my a**.
Now it turns out slimebag Hazzard, who certainly knows where the money is,
betrayed boxing WHILE boxing commissioner and sold out to the MMA.
With Ratner and Hazzard both betraying boxing in that fashion, they both demonstrated their treachery to boxing, and the fact that each had no allegiance to anything but their own careers and finances.
New York was not a big site for important fights once Atlantic City and Las Vegas took over, but it is interesting to see that former New York boxng commissioner Randy Gordon now has a cable [?] show where he highlights MMA and hardly mentions boxing.
These slimebags were entrusted with positions of authority over boxing, and now they eagerly demonstrate their only interest is in their own careers, and to hell with boxing.
Both Hazzard and Randy Gordon lied about having extensive amateur boxing careers. Randy Gordon claimed a 37-2 record as an amateur, while Hazzard claims he won three Golden Glove titles. Both are lying.
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Wow. fvckin scumbag. of course, this will never get big. People always turn a blind eye to the actions of boxing's manipulating assholes.
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Poor Larry.
In court papers, Hazzard says the firing has sullied his name and caused him psychological distress.
http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/2008 ... neral.html
In court papers, Hazzard says the firing has sullied his name and caused him psychological distress.
http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/2008 ... neral.html
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granberry wrote:Poor Larry.
In court papers, Hazzard says the firing has sullied his name and caused him psychological distress.
http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/2008 ... neral.html
Did Larry Hazzard help trash your Peter Maher thread?
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MMA is not the reason why Boxing has gone down the 'toilet'
Boxing officials defecting is not the reason either.
The reason is because boxing is less relevant outside of the core
fans.
Who is the HW champion ? I am often asked by non or casual fans.
What do I tell them ?
If it is hard for a fan to follow the sport how the hell are non fans
suppose to get interested.
Access to boxing is getting harder for people it is not on free to
air TV like nearly every other sport is.
Amateur boxing in schools, colleges, universities is on the down spiral/
Granberry blame these disloyal men and the threat of MMA all you
like...but what have you done in your community lately to support
boxing ?
Boxing officials defecting is not the reason either.
The reason is because boxing is less relevant outside of the core
fans.
Who is the HW champion ? I am often asked by non or casual fans.
What do I tell them ?
If it is hard for a fan to follow the sport how the hell are non fans
suppose to get interested.
Access to boxing is getting harder for people it is not on free to
air TV like nearly every other sport is.
Amateur boxing in schools, colleges, universities is on the down spiral/
Granberry blame these disloyal men and the threat of MMA all you
like...but what have you done in your community lately to support
boxing ?
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Clueless forever, Robinson.
Boxing went down the tubes while it was in the hands of Ratner, Hazzard, Gordon.
They were the boxing commissioners who were entrusted with safeguarding boxing.
Instead they enabled the Don Kings and Suliemans to run wild and destroy boxing.
Now they move on to the trash of the MMA
proving they should never have been entrusted with the positions they had in boxing.
Boxing went down the tubes while it was in the hands of Ratner, Hazzard, Gordon.
They were the boxing commissioners who were entrusted with safeguarding boxing.
Instead they enabled the Don Kings and Suliemans to run wild and destroy boxing.
Now they move on to the trash of the MMA
proving they should never have been entrusted with the positions they had in boxing.
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Mr Gran
Why is MMA trash ?
Why should MMA have any effect on boxing ?
Boxing is a great sport, with such a rich history. A history
you know more about than I could ever hope to.
Do you really think that boxing crumbled because of these
men going where they felt they needed to go ?
To me...as an outsider looking at the sport of boxing
all I can say is that people from within boxing being perhaps
stuck in the past do not help the sport.
Instead of condemning and hating, perhaps one should sit
back and say...'how can we fix this' and then do it.
I think that boxing decayed from within...fragmenting the belts
hurts the sport. How can we have the sport with out
a HW champion..one man at the top. The king of the lands...
of the ring.
Trust me...MMA is far from perfect and boxers get paid
alot more than MMAers. MMA is not the trashy foe of
boxing.
Why is MMA trash ?
Why should MMA have any effect on boxing ?
Boxing is a great sport, with such a rich history. A history
you know more about than I could ever hope to.
Do you really think that boxing crumbled because of these
men going where they felt they needed to go ?
To me...as an outsider looking at the sport of boxing
all I can say is that people from within boxing being perhaps
stuck in the past do not help the sport.
Instead of condemning and hating, perhaps one should sit
back and say...'how can we fix this' and then do it.
I think that boxing decayed from within...fragmenting the belts
hurts the sport. How can we have the sport with out
a HW champion..one man at the top. The king of the lands...
of the ring.
Trust me...MMA is far from perfect and boxers get paid
alot more than MMAers. MMA is not the trashy foe of
boxing.
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and yet there is virtually no money to be found in this thread....