Moore contemplating move up to middleweight in search of Pav

[Captain Hook]

So are you coming up here twice now then? Can you let me know when so I can book a holiday abroad.

[Wales]

Dont tell him where youre going abroad, the flipper turned up when I went to vegas!

[Poncey]

To be fair, I was in the country before you. Just not in Vegas (only 34 days until I fly back there for the FOTY). 8)

[Wales]

You going to Cotto Margo? nice.

[Poncey]

Sure am. And (hopefully) I have TV seats so look out for me, I'll be top of the screen. I'll have a bright red shirt and tie on looking like the usual prick. Let me know if you want me to get you a T-shirt.

[Captain Hook]

you can get me one, and pay for it......I'm an M.......M for motherfooker

[Poncey]

Okay, I'll get you both one and I'll get sizes off you nearer the time. Anyway, we've gone off topic.

Sam, let me know once you have a date for Jamie's fight and I'll come with bells on.

[EddieShredder]

Sure am. And (hopefully) I have TV seats so look out for me, I'll be top of the screen. I'll have a bright red shirt and tie on looking like the usual prick. Let me know if you want me to get you a T-shirt.

So, just to recap.... today you've highlighted your extensive knowledge of Big Brother, and now let on that you plan outfits months in advance. Oh dear.

(I'm not jealous you're going to Cotto - Marg at all It's fine anyways.... Cotto - DLH will happen, and I'll be on my way to that instead )

[Captain Hook]

You took us off topic....don't shift the blame.

We'll all go see Moore, I fancy him to nick it on points.

[Loynesy]

Good work Emerson, wanted to go to the Cotto fight too but have friends visiting NYC that weekend.

I am going to the Manny Pac - Diaz fight next week though, Pac fights are great fun live.

[Poncey]

Sure am. And (hopefully) I have TV seats so look out for me, I'll be top of the screen. I'll have a bright red shirt and tie on looking like the usual prick. Let me know if you want me to get you a T-shirt.

So, just to recap.... today you've highlighted your extensive knowledge of Big Brother, and now let on that you plan outfits months in advance. Oh dear.

(I'm not jealous you're going to Cotto - Marg at all It's fine anyways.... Cotto - DLH will happen, and I'll be on my way to that instead )

It's my Vegas fight outfit, dude. I didn't wear it for Hatton v Mayweather as DLH lost the last time I wore it and I got superstitious. Didn't help, did it?!

[Poncey]

Good work Emerson, wanted to go to the Cotto fight too but have friends visiting NYC that weekend.

I am going to the Manny Pac - Diaz fight next week though, Pac fights are great fun live.

I haven't forgotten we're getting a steak together once a decent fight comes to NYC. I may go to Hatton v Malinaggi if Calzaghe doesn't fight RJJ in Vegas, so I'll let you know.

[Wales]

Okay, I'll get you both one and I'll get sizes off you nearer the time. Anyway, we've gone off topic.

Sam, let me know once you have a date for Jamie's fight and I'll come with bells on.

Coolio, I'm sure the dates will be announced in due course, fairly sure september was mooted.

M for me too, although it stands for Mary-ellen and not mootherfooker like hook.

[Loynesy]

Good work Emerson, wanted to go to the Cotto fight too but have friends visiting NYC that weekend.

I am going to the Manny Pac - Diaz fight next week though, Pac fights are great fun live.

I haven't forgotten we're getting a steak together once a decent fight comes to NYC. I may go to Hatton v Malinaggi if Calzaghe doesn't fight RJJ in Vegas, so I'll let you know.

Absolutely. Few afternoon beers at Jimmy's Corner (the best bar in NY for the boxing fan), followed by a decent steak with good wine and then a night of boxing at the Garden is one of life's great pleasures.

[WildWaylon]

Good work Emerson, wanted to go to the Cotto fight too but have friends visiting NYC that weekend.

I am going to the Manny Pac - Diaz fight next week though, Pac fights are great fun live.

I haven't forgotten we're getting a steak together once a decent fight comes to NYC. I may go to Hatton v Malinaggi if Calzaghe doesn't fight RJJ in Vegas, so I'll let you know.

Absolutely. Few afternoon beers at Jimmy's Corner (the best bar in NY for the boxing fan), followed by a decent steak with good wine and then a night of boxing at the Garden is one of life's great pleasures.

You are a bragging little bugger Loynsey. I think you get paid too much. Wine after work in London, wine with steak in NYC. You seem to drink rather a lot of wine. No supermarket plonk for you in a back garden in Solihull LOL.

[Max Molyneux]

And 80% of Facey's work was pure spoiling. Piss off the opponent and only afterward, hit them.

Ricky Hatton said it best before the fight, "I don't like this fight."

I had Facey ahead until Moore knocked him down and then stopped him.

Jones In the 3rd was ahead too.

If Moore was as good as made out, he would of had less trouble winning those fights.

[Wales]

JOnes was ahead in the third when it was stopped? I dont think he was (was he?), he had a big 3rd but didnt Moore win the fourth and had Jones down twice in the 5th. I cant recall the first two rounds, but on your card Jones won them both?

I know what your saying about Jones 3, although I disagree with facey 2 (he just didnt turn up that night). What I will say is the performance against macklin was sublime, and Matt is making big waves at the moment. I also understand his performance on the Hatton undercard, after a long lay off, was very very good.

[Max Molyneux]

Macklin Is hardly making big waves, a few tune up wins he's looked good In winning though.

Macklin has currently lost to every domestic level step up he's had though.

Think Moore should be fighting Baysangurov earlier, the Healy fight won't tune him up as he'll demolish Healy too easily.

[Gray-Fox]

Macklin's european level at best. Let's not be fooled.

[black panther]

Agree with Autobarn - Moore may fall short of world class but we'll never know until he tries. But I definitely think he should stay at LMM and push for a title shot at Phillips/Mora. Then he'll have a major title belt to use as a bargaining tool for bigger fights(if he wins). And I think Pavlik would just be too big - he's a massive middleweight at 6 ft 2inch and Moore's only, what, 5ft 8inch? But Moore could definitely beat Phillips who is ancient. But I think all this middleweight talk has come from frustration on Moore's part as he's at the tail-end of his career and is still yet to land a big fight. I hope he gets one either way. His handlers should be trying to line him up in an eliminator of some sort - the Baysangurov fight could be made into an eliminator for one of the big three belts. I think thats the only way he'll get his shot - if he the mandatory.

[fatcity69]

He should definately stay at 154... he wont be so effective at 160 and the champions are better at that weight too... dont understand why Moores career has frozen like it has... he's good to watch and seems ready to meet anyone, so whats the problem?...

[fatcity69]

Would like to see Moore fight Bradley Pryce... with the winner to go for the euro title... or maybe have a go at Phillips...

[Autobarn]

Would like to see Moore fight Bradley Pryce... with the winner to go for the euro title... or maybe have a go at Phillips...

Moore HAS got a shot at the Euro title. Pryce has Jamie's old title, the Commonwealth - step back, IMO.

Jamie may have a bargaining tool of sorts. He's been in some wars. If he beats Baysangurov, he's announced himself as world class, and IF he wins spectacularly, ppl will be talking about the fight - maybe enough to carry him into a big fight. Also, he's good mates with Hatton, who has connections with GBP, who can get him fights in America.

Arum has been desperate to manufacture a foe for Kelly Pavlik. Duddy and Lee. Moore has better credentials than them, let's not forget. Pavlik HAS been hurt by men who've moved up from light middleweight - Bronco McKart, Fulgencio Zuniga, Jose Luis Zertuche...

Reckon Jamie would be strong at 160, and I think his skills are underrated. Yes, massive risk going up to 160 with the power of Pavlik & Abraham. But these guys are superstars and the money is there (at least with Pavlik).

At light middle, there are loads of unknown, power punching hard nuts (Angulo, Kirkland, Julio) on the way up but the actual champs are average and unknown. 154 had a top fighter in Forrest, but he went and lost, and if he gets a rematch with Mora, the WBC title is on the line. Loads of risk, little reward.

154 is a mess right now. I can see why Moore would want to move up.

[Autobarn]

Macklin Is hardly making big waves, a few tune up wins he's looked good In winning though.

Macklin has currently lost to every domestic level step up he's had though.

Think Moore should be fighting Baysangurov earlier, the Healy fight won't tune him up as he'll demolish Healy too easily.

After Baysangruov pulled out late last year, with a fractured cheekbone, he was back in action only a few weeks later. By the time Moore fights Baysangurov, the latter will have had 3 fights. Moore will only have had two since Bays pulled out.

Don't forget Moore had his shoulder op after the EBU champ pulled out, and he's needed to ease himself back into things. Irish TV offered him the Healy date, around the time he wanted another fight, and it's a 10-rounder which he wants.

Way I see it, the main problem is he won't have fought on UK TV for ages. But the EBU title fight is still meant to be happening, so things are moving. It's a fight to look forward to. If Moore wins, and makes a name for himself, you never know what can happen.

It's a shame that ppl can get so set back so badly, when an opponent does the pullout.

My one big question. Will Baysangurov do another pullout, knowing rumours that Moore might be ready to do something else, that if he pulls out Moore may just move on and that Baysangurov could get away with doing an "Inkin"?