Chi v Brodie II

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Mar 2004, 12:56

This ones creeping up, really looking forward to it. Rematches rarely live up to the original fight I hope thats not the case. I have a feeling Chi might win by stoppage the wars have to catch up with Brodie soon.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 18 Mar 2004, 13:00

I may even travel to watch this one....

Has anyone else noticed that Michael Brodie looks like a Shaolin monk in the advert?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Mar 2004, 13:01

007 wrote:This ones creeping up, really looking forward to it. Rematches rarely live up to the original fight I hope thats not the case. I have a feeling Chi might win by stoppage the wars have to catch up with Brodie soon.

Yes, I asked people to call Jones-Tarver II the other day, but that's a cakewalk compared to picking the winner of this one. It's not even a case of saying to onself, "who can fight the better this time," because they both fought well first time. One thing's for sure, the Korean won't fancy returning to Manchester again. That could make a difference.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Mar 2004, 13:02

Anyone notice Brodie looks like John Merrick after his fights?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 18 Mar 2004, 13:03

bennie wrote:
007 wrote:This ones creeping up, really looking forward to it. Rematches rarely live up to the original fight I hope thats not the case. I have a feeling Chi might win by stoppage the wars have to catch up with Brodie soon.
Yes, I asked people to call Jones-Tarver II the other day, but that's a cakewalk compared to picking the winner of this one. It's not even a case of saying to onself, "who can fight the better this time," because they both fought well first time. One thing's for sure, the Korean won't fancy returning to Manchester again. That could make a difference.

If Brodie could use his skills and not get involved I'd pick him to win but we all know thats unlikely at some stage he'll get involved and usually when he does he finds it hard to get back to his boxing. One thing you can always guarantee with Brodie is entertainment the guy has some heart.

J · Post by J » 18 Mar 2004, 13:11

true think someone (wasnt me) posted on here or another forum "if he boxed Chi, he might win but thats doubtable with his penchant for getting into a war in an empty room!"
classic.
Good pro though good luck to him, I like Mike hope he wins this time.
withouth any interference form the nob heads that poured scorn on an otherwise excellent and entertaining fight, that was a credit to both men involved.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 18 Mar 2004, 13:17

Yeah i can't see Brodie resiting the temptation to get into a war, or more to the point does he have the ability to stay out of the way and box clever for 12 rounds? I would say he does but he is a crowd pleaser and will want to put on a show, maybe he should just box and move and stink the place out but get the win! The trouble is will the crowd pay more money to see an exciting loser or a tentative winner? And why do i end up asking more questions than i answer in these posts?

DIRT SUGAR · Post by **DIRT SUGAR** » 18 Mar 2004, 13:21

Brodie just seems incapable of keeping up the kind of concentration required to avoid a) Getting caught clean and hurt; or even b) keep his boxing together and use his skills to win.

I'd love him to use his jab, movement and real disciplined punch-picking to beat Chi on points but the Korean's such a warmonger it just has to descend into an out and out barnstormer at times.

But as we've seen (Ward v Gatti trilogy not included) sometimes a rematch between fighters who have fought tooth and nail the first time, sometimes offer up a more cerebral affair in the rematch, having taken each other to career heights (and probably lows) during their initial encounters. Barrera v Morales II and more recently the Corrales v Casamoyor rematch are examples.

However, I think Brodie and Chi may have the same kind of chemistry that bonded Ward and Gatti and due to their shortfallings in concentration (Brodie) and all or nothing approach (Chi), are the kind of guys who'll offer up nothing but a great fight each time they meet.

I just hope the first fight didn't take as much out of Brodie as I think it may have. There's only so much you can take and Brodie's had some hard nights at the office. Also be interesting to see how Chi reacts. I mean, he was pretty-much shafted the first time round so how will his mental fortitude hold up? After putting so much on the line last time and getting robbed by the sheer incompetence of the WBC, will he be able to reach the same level of intensity this time around?

My heart says Brodie boxes more and uses good movement and after some a few scares on the way wins on points.

However, my head says Chi will wear him down again but may even stop him this time, a battered and bruised Brodie being stopped, more likely due to facial damage more than anything else.

J · Post by J » 18 Mar 2004, 13:23

Steve you are right though mate, even if it seems a bit like King Lears soliloquy!!!

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Mar 2004, 13:32

I thought Chi won the last fight and I think he will win the rematch, it would not suprise me if this was the fight when all the wars finally caught up with Brodie.

Having said that I hope I am wrong and shall be cheering on Brodie.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 18 Mar 2004, 15:24

007 wrote:Anyone notice Brodie looks like John Merrick after his fights?

"I am not a mancunian, I am a human being!"

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 18 Mar 2004, 15:30

mrbassie wrote:
007 wrote:Anyone notice Brodie looks like John Merrick after his fights?
"I am not a mancunian, I am a human being!"

u shouldn't laugh about these things but that was a good one.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 18 Mar 2004, 15:32

The thing is, Chi probably edged the first round and of course dropped Brodie in the second and that was when Brodie was trying to box on the outside. It's only when he started banging Chi's body against the ropes that he was able to get back into the fight. Chi loves to brawl, but he can box from a distance, you saw this at times against Brodie and against Morales too. IMO to win Brodie has to fight more or less the same fight as he did, I don't think he can pick Chi off, he needs to work the body big time (again), but also have the suss to pick when he can take a breather. He faded in the last one, he needs to watch his stamina but can only win on the inside.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 18 Mar 2004, 16:46

Agree with you there mrbassie.

When Brodie worked the body, you could see Chi was feeling it, and at one point I thought he was going to wilt, but Brodie ditched that idea, and decided to get involved.

My initial thought when the rematch was made that Brodie wouldn't have much of a chance, but the more I think about it, the more I believe Brodie can do it...if he can keep disciplined.

I wouldn't mind going up to see this one.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 19 Mar 2004, 06:00

I think I'll be there. As usual, the bookies have got it right with Chi a slight odds-on favourite. Brodie's main chance is if he boxes a bit more but will he be able to resist the tear up? I don't think he can out brawl Chi - but I do think he will try to. If he does, Chi might even stop him this time. I'm fully behind Brodie though, although I have a lot of respect for Chi and sympathy too as he was robbed last time.

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 19 Mar 2004, 09:54

I Think this really could be a snore fest.

Despite the epic first match, i really feel Caution will be the order of the day, espically from Chi, who was blantantly robbed in the first fight.

Even so, i think the judges will do justice this time, and make Chi a lopsided points winner.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 19 Mar 2004, 10:11

Yes mrbassie that is a good point, i still feel that Brodie cannot sustain that sort of tempo for 12 rounds and with his proneness to cut or balloon out and his questionable punch resistance he must try and box on the back foot in order to survive. Chi is a mystery man still, we know he is immensely strong and no matter what Brodie threw at him he still sucked it up and came back late on for more but Brodie was getting to him at points so all hope is not lost.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Mar 2004, 10:24

I think the problem was that Brodie was tiring from the effort of hitting Chi to the body.

His best chance this time is to go to the body straight away. I don't feel Brodie has the boxing skills to keep Chi away for 12 rounds, he has to hurt him early, sap his stamina, and then try and disengage if he is ahead over the last 4.

I cannot see an easy night for Brodie, whose head resembles nothing so much as a pumpkin at the end of his fights.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Mar 2004, 10:26

Really dont expect a timid fight at all. One thing about Brodie, I think he would rather get KO'd trying to win than getting on his toes if its slipping away and that has to be commended. Not too many fighters with that attitude around at the moment.

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