strangest boxing memories.

J · Post by J » 18 Mar 2004, 05:04

GOZ YOU CAN REMEMBER AFTER ALL THAT!? shit remind me never to meet ya for a beer haha

lamphey · Post by **lamphey** » 18 Mar 2004, 14:31

bennie wrote:It was definitely Gerrard. I remember people commenting about his antics at the time. Are you sure it wasn't a 'Fight Night' promotion? Gerrard fought Nelson on a Robert Dickie show in Stoke.

bennie, you're spot on.

I was at that show up in Stoke to see Robert Dickie fight Kamel Bou-Ali.

It was the first time I'd seen Nelson who was being billed as "The Entertainer" at the time. He really took the piss out of Gerrard, jumping up and down on his feet while throwing flurries, and so on. Then Gerrard started blowing snot and blood down Nelson's shoulder and back whenever they got into clinches. Horrible!!

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 18 Mar 2004, 14:36

ian "mr" mcneilly: honeyghan-breland is a shellacking

honeyghan looked an old man didn't he. he was wobbly underfoot and dropped with jabs twice, the 2nd time heavily.

and to cap it off the crowd shouted "what a load of rubbish at him" :x

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 18 Mar 2004, 18:26

i seen a video clip once of a middleweight (i think) contest in australia, and for some reason the ref falls out with one of the fighters cornermen.
this cornerman jumps in the ring and he`s quite young, greek looking, headband on looking like an extra from fame and then starts performing some sort of martial art on the middle age ref. but the ref looks like he`s done a bit in the past and starts dropping bombs like the f*****g luftwaffe.
the pair of them go at it good style. made the fight look quite pedestrian.
come to think of it i`m sure the fighter who wasn`t involved in the fracas was born in liverpool but emigrated there as a kid or something like that. there`s some sort of british angle to it anyway.
the aussie comentators were hilarious, where ours would be dragging the old `it`s a disgrace` soundbytes out these blokes were saying ` at last we`ve got a real blue`, `use your left` and `this is great stuff`.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 18 Mar 2004, 21:16

Yes, I have seen that. It's hilarious. If I remember correctly the ref was Charkey Ramon who had indeed 'done a bit' - Wasn't he Commonwealth 154 champ at one time? He cleaned that blokes clock good and proper, didn't he?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 19 Mar 2004, 07:32

I did find it odd the Honeyghun became so old vs Breland, he was only 30 (if memory serves me correct) and although his career was tough it wasn't that tough - I mean the Curry fight wasn't a war and he had one particularly easy title defence (one of the fastest KO's in history).

Does everybody remember that night, that was the time when Sport on terrestial TV was second to none. We had the Olympics on both ITV and the BBC (the only time that ever happend, ITV's presentation was poor) and Honeyghun faught live just before a major final from a British perspective (I think the Hockey). A fantastic night for British sport and for the Beeb.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 19 Mar 2004, 16:33

stujones wrote:I did find it odd the Honeyghun became so old vs Breland, he was only 30 (if memory serves me correct) and although his career was tough it wasn't that tough - I mean the Curry fight wasn't a war and he had one particularly easy title defence (one of the fastest KO's in history).

I've labelled Honeygan and Mcuigan as 'supernovas' for a long time now. I honestly believe that for a very short time they could have given the very best ever to have competed in their divisions an argument but I'm talking over only a 3-4 fight period. Their peaks were very short.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 19 Mar 2004, 17:30

Goz wrote:
stujones wrote:I did find it odd the Honeyghun became so old vs Breland, he was only 30 (if memory serves me correct) and although his career was tough it wasn't that tough - I mean the Curry fight wasn't a war and he had one particularly easy title defence (one of the fastest KO's in history).
I've labelled Honeygan and Mcuigan as 'supernovas' for a long time now. I honestly believe that for a very short time they could have given the very best ever to have competed in their divisions an argument but I'm talking over only a 3-4 fight period. Their peaks were very short.

yeah mcguigan on the night he fought pedroza would have spanked naz silly

and honeyghan against curry, bumphus and blocker was brilliant.

i think with honeyghan, the starling fight might have had an impact cos that was one of those career damaging beatings he took that night.

and mcguigan's was more a case of bad matchmaking, what were they thinking of.

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 19 Mar 2004, 19:32

collins 2000 that refs name rings a bell.
i didnt know he was an ex commonwealth champ but i could see he knew what he was doing.
you`re right he did give the cornerman all he could handle, and it was funny as f**k.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 19 Mar 2004, 19:34

Seeing Bowe-Golota again on ringside reminded me how fucked up that was. Golota fightiong the fight of his life, throwing it away like that! And the ruck after. CRazY!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Mar 2004, 19:49

headhunter wrote:i seen a video clip once of a middleweight (i think) contest in australia, and for some reason the ref falls out with one of the fighters cornermen.
this cornerman jumps in the ring and he`s quite young, greek looking, headband on looking like an extra from fame and then starts performing some sort of martial art on the middle age ref. but the ref looks like he`s done a bit in the past and starts dropping bombs like the f*****g luftwaffe.
the pair of them go at it good style. made the fight look quite pedestrian.
come to think of it i`m sure the fighter who wasn`t involved in the fracas was born in liverpool but emigrated there as a kid or something like that. there`s some sort of british angle to it anyway.
the aussie comentators were hilarious, where ours would be dragging the old `it`s a disgrace` soundbytes out these blokes were saying ` at last we`ve got a real blue`, `use your left` and `this is great stuff`.

The Liverpool ex-pat would be Ken Salisbury.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Mar 2004, 19:51

Collins2000 wrote:Yes, I have seen that. It's hilarious. If I remember correctly the ref was Charkey Ramon who had indeed 'done a bit' - Wasn't he Commonwealth 154 champ at one time? He cleaned that blokes clock good and proper, didn't he?

Wow, I'd like to see that. Ramon, like most Aussie fighters, would love a tear-up at any age.

PompeyScot · Post by **PompeyScot** » 19 Mar 2004, 19:56

Sorry for joining this late.

I was at the Steve McCarthy v Tony Wilson fight when Wilson's mum strode into the ring and whacked poor Steve over the head with her shoe. Carnage broke out, Steve thought he had won the fight but when everyone realised that Steve had been disqualified it turned ugly and really looked as though it was going to really get out of control. Just a really bizarre happening, don;t think Steve really recovered from that, didn't make the most of the talent he had.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Mar 2004, 20:03

PompeyScot wrote:Sorry for joining this late.

I was at the Steve McCarthy v Tony Wilson fight when Wilson's mum strode into the ring and whacked poor Steve over the head with her shoe. Carnage broke out, Steve thought he had won the fight but when everyone realised that Steve had been disqualified it turned ugly and really looked as though it was going to really get out of control. Just a really bizarre happening, don;t think Steve really recovered from that, didn't make the most of the talent he had.

Would you agree - or disagree - that Steve was too much of a hothead to really make the most of his undoubted southpaw ability? I seem to recall he subsequently pulled out of a British title defence against Roy Skeldon at very late notice indeed. I think that just about cost him his career.
But don't get me wrong. Steve (and Paul McCarthy) was a hard lad.

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 19 Mar 2004, 20:04

thats the fella!!!
ken salisbury!!! i`ve been wracking my brains out all day.
i feel like a weights off my shoulders.
nice one bennie.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Mar 2004, 20:09

headhunter wrote:thats the fella!!!
ken salisbury!!! i`ve been wracking my brains out all day.
i feel like a weights off my shoulders.
nice one bennie.

Did you ever read the piece in BN that legendary writer Brian Pigden did on Salisbury? Brian went over to see his son in Australia and decided to track down several well known Aussie boxing characters while he was there, including Tony Mundine Senior, Jeff Fenech, Tony Madigan, and Salisbury.
Ken had to retire prematurely from the sport after sustaining injuries in a car crash, but has a beautiful flat overlooking Bondai Beach and is very content.
A brilliant set of 'on the road' articles from Pigden.

TheRiverCityHippy · Post by **TheRiverCityHippy** » 19 Mar 2004, 20:31

no mate i haven`t seen that, and to be honest i didn`t know salisbury made such an impression on the down under boxing scene.
its nice to see he`s done well for himself.
i stayed for a couple of months in australia with relatives who live there a few years ago and some parts of it are like paradise.
but once or twice you`d gaze into the bush and think to yourself, this place is swarming with natural born killers..........that ref for a start

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Mar 2004, 20:36

headhunter wrote:no mate i haven`t seen that, and to be honest i didn`t know salisbury made such an impression on the down under boxing scene.
its nice to see he`s done well for himself.
i stayed for a couple of months in australia with relatives who live there a few years ago and some parts of it are like paradise.
but once or twice you`d gaze into the bush and think to yourself, this place is swarming with natural born killers..........that ref for a start

To be honest, Brian did the piece on Salisbury more because of the Liverpool connection than for what Salisbury achieved down under. But the ex-Scouse was a good character.
Ironically, his only loss as a pro came when he returned to these shores and got rolled over by Nick Wilshire. It was stopped on cuts, but Wilshire was murdering him.

PompeyScot · Post by **PompeyScot** » 20 Mar 2004, 11:59

bennie wrote: Would you agree - or disagree - that Steve was too much of a hothead to really make the most of his undoubted southpaw ability? I seem to recall he subsequently pulled out of a British title defence against Roy Skeldon at very late notice indeed. I think that just about cost him his career.
But don't get me wrong. Steve (and Paul McCarthy) was a hard lad.

I'd pretty much agree with that Bennie. Steve was very much his own man, as the Roy Skeldon incident showed. As you say, it basically cost him his carrer. He could have made so much more of his talent but didn't have the mental attitude to really knuckle down and realise what he had to do to become a top fighter. I used to know Jack Bishop, Steve's trainer, and he thought so highly of him.