Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
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Harvey Levy
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Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
To me one of the most exiting periods in boxing was during the late 1970's to early 80's in which an often under represented LHW division gave the boxing fan numerous exiting fights.
The division was loaded with talent and they often fought each other to give us memorable fights.
The most notable fighters of the era were;
Victor Galindez, Matthew (Franklyn) Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Dwight (Braxton) Muhammad Qawi, and finally Michael Spinks. Other very good fighters were Mike Rossman, Yaqui Lopez (my favorite), Eddie (Gregory) Mustafa Muhammad and John Conteh.
At which division was your favorite period of boxing?
The division was loaded with talent and they often fought each other to give us memorable fights.
The most notable fighters of the era were;
Victor Galindez, Matthew (Franklyn) Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Dwight (Braxton) Muhammad Qawi, and finally Michael Spinks. Other very good fighters were Mike Rossman, Yaqui Lopez (my favorite), Eddie (Gregory) Mustafa Muhammad and John Conteh.
At which division was your favorite period of boxing?
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That was a great era for the Light heavies.
Yaqui Lopez was one of my favoeitefighters also.
Jesse Burnett was a guy I appreciated also.
A guy I used to spar with once in awhile fought Yaqui. His name was Chuck Warfield.
Yaqui Lopez was one of my favoeitefighters also.
Jesse Burnett was a guy I appreciated also.
A guy I used to spar with once in awhile fought Yaqui. His name was Chuck Warfield.
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TheOneIsHere2008
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Without a doubt, 60 and 70s heavies and 80's welterweights and middleweights...Harvey Levy wrote:To me one of the most exiting periods in boxing was during the late 1970's to early 80's in which an often under represented LHW division gave the boxing fan numerous exiting fights.
The division was loaded with talent and they often fought each other to give us memorable fights.
The most notable fighters of the era were;
Victor Galindez, Matthew (Franklyn) Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Dwight (Braxton) Muhammad Qawi, and finally Michael Spinks. Other very good fighters were Mike Rossman, Yaqui Lopez (my favorite), Eddie (Gregory) Mustafa Muhammad and John Conteh.
At which division was your favorite period of boxing?
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Harvey Levy
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Yaqui was always in a war, that's what I like about the guy. His one loss that really stunned me was to jailbird smart mouth James Scott. I hated that guy....BTW, did you knock out your buddy?Expug wrote:That was a great era for the Light heavies.
Yaqui Lopez was one of my favoeitefighters also.
Jesse Burnett was a guy I appreciated also.
A guy I used to spar with once in awhile fought Yaqui. His name was Chuck Warfield.
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Chuck was quite a few years older , we just went a few rounds, nothing memorable happened really.Harvey Levy wrote:Yaqui was always in a war, that's what I like about the guy. His one loss that really stunned me was to jailbird smart mouth James Scott. I hated that guy....BTW, did you knock out your buddy?Expug wrote:That was a great era for the Light heavies.
Yaqui Lopez was one of my favoeitefighters also.
Jesse Burnett was a guy I appreciated also.
A guy I used to spar with once in awhile fought Yaqui. His name was Chuck Warfield.
He fought Yaqui in Stockton which is Yaquis hometown. Yaqui belted him out of there in a few rounds.
Chuck wasnt in his league.
You should checkout the West Coast thread here .
I believe there is some stuff about Yaqui in there.
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Harvey Levy
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Yeah, I always cheered for anyone to crush Ali so that made that era exciting for me too. I hated the guy back then but I learned to appreciate his skills both as a boxer and a showman as I mellowed out with age. The elimination series of bouts to determine Ali's successor was pretty exiting too. I was a big Bonavena fan but a local (Miami) HW Jimmy Ellis really surprised everyone. I think that list had Bonavena, Karl Mildenberger, Ellis, Leotis Martin, Thad Spencer, Jerry Quarry, Flyd Patterson and Ernie Terrell.TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Without a doubt, 60 and 70s heavies and 80's welterweights and middleweights...Harvey Levy wrote:To me one of the most exiting periods in boxing was during the late 1970's to early 80's in which an often under represented LHW division gave the boxing fan numerous exiting fights.
The division was loaded with talent and they often fought each other to give us memorable fights.
The most notable fighters of the era were;
Victor Galindez, Matthew (Franklyn) Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Dwight (Braxton) Muhammad Qawi, and finally Michael Spinks. Other very good fighters were Mike Rossman, Yaqui Lopez (my favorite), Eddie (Gregory) Mustafa Muhammad and John Conteh.
At which division was your favorite period of boxing?
Remember that Ellis - Patterson title fight in Stockholm? I think Patterson got robbed.
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Harvey Levy
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
O. K., I will. Thanks!!Expug wrote:Chuck was quite a few years older , we just went a few rounds, nothing memorable happened really.Harvey Levy wrote:Yaqui was always in a war, that's what I like about the guy. His one loss that really stunned me was to jailbird smart mouth James Scott. I hated that guy....BTW, did you knock out your buddy?Expug wrote:That was a great era for the Light heavies.
Yaqui Lopez was one of my favoeitefighters also.
Jesse Burnett was a guy I appreciated also.
A guy I used to spar with once in awhile fought Yaqui. His name was Chuck Warfield.
He fought Yaqui in Stockton which is Yaquis hometown. Yaqui belted him out of there in a few rounds.
Chuck wasnt in his league.
You should checkout the West Coast thread here .
I believe there is some stuff about Yaqui in there.
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TheOneIsHere2008
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
I remember when Bob Foster fought Ali... He was the first fighter to cut Ali and make him need stitches...
Foster also said of Ali no man that big should have been so fast...
I just realized this is a late seventies thread...
Foster also said of Ali no man that big should have been so fast...
I just realized this is a late seventies thread...
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TheOneIsHere2008
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Harvey Levy wrote:Yeah, I always cheered for anyone to crush Ali so that made that era exciting for me too. I hated the guy back then but I learned to appreciate his skills both as a boxer and a showman as I mellowed out with age. The elimination series of bouts to determine Ali's successor was pretty exiting too. I was a big Bonavena fan but a local (Miami) HW Jimmy Ellis really surprised everyone. I think that list had Bonavena, Karl Mildenberger, Ellis, Leotis Martin, Thad Spencer, Jerry Quarry, Flyd Patterson and Ernie Terrell.TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Without a doubt, 60 and 70s heavies and 80's welterweights and middleweights...Harvey Levy wrote:To me one of the most exiting periods in boxing was during the late 1970's to early 80's in which an often under represented LHW division gave the boxing fan numerous exiting fights.
The division was loaded with talent and they often fought each other to give us memorable fights.
The most notable fighters of the era were;
Victor Galindez, Matthew (Franklyn) Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Dwight (Braxton) Muhammad Qawi, and finally Michael Spinks. Other very good fighters were Mike Rossman, Yaqui Lopez (my favorite), Eddie (Gregory) Mustafa Muhammad and John Conteh.
At which division was your favorite period of boxing?
Remember that Ellis - Patterson title fight in Stockholm? I think Patterson got robbed.
Did you live in Miami? I missed Ali by about ten minutes...But the story only makes sense if you are familiar with Miami in the mid 70's...
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I have not seen any of the Yaqui Lopez - Jesse Burnett fights but they must have been good.
They fought 4 times .Twice for the California State Title.
They went 2-2 overall.
You dont hear about this rivalry too much.
They fought 4 times .Twice for the California State Title.
They went 2-2 overall.
You dont hear about this rivalry too much.
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Harvey Levy
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Did you live in Miami? I missed Ali by about ten minutes...But the story only makes sense if you are familiar with Miami in the mid 70's...
Sorry..I don't follow what you mean.
Sorry..I don't follow what you mean.
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TheOneIsHere2008
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Harvey Levy wrote:Did you live in Miami? I missed Ali by about ten minutes...But the story only makes sense if you are familiar with Miami in the mid 70's...
Sorry..I don't follow what you mean.
You mentioned Miami...If you lived in Miami or visited in the 70's my littel story of how I almost met Ali would make sense...
My mom did meet him and said he was very gracious and personable...I have his autograph framed...It means more to me because it has my name on it...
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Harvey Levy
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
O. K...TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Harvey Levy wrote:Did you live in Miami? I missed Ali by about ten minutes...But the story only makes sense if you are familiar with Miami in the mid 70's...
Sorry..I don't follow what you mean.
You mentioned Miami...If you lived in Miami or visited in the 70's my littel story of how I almost met Ali would make sense...
My mom did meet him and said he was very gracious and personable...I have his autograph framed...It means more to me because it has my name on it...
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TheOneIsHere2008
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I used to live in Sunny Isles in the mid 70s...There was a game room in the Marco Poloi Hotel where I used to play pool...In the lower level was a club called The Swinger Lounge...This was 1976 and Melba Moore was performing there... Sometimes my buddies and I would hang out outside The Lounge to watch the people coming in since were underage and couldn't get in ourselves... One time we went down there and the bouncers told use we missed Ali by about ten minutes...Him and his entourage were there to see Melba Moore...Harvey Levy wrote:O. K...Sorry, but I missed your story. How does it go? I would be familiar to your story since I've lived in Miami for 38 years. I'm a transplanted South Carolinian.TheOneIsHere2008 wrote:Harvey Levy wrote:Did you live in Miami? I missed Ali by about ten minutes...But the story only makes sense if you are familiar with Miami in the mid 70's...
Sorry..I don't follow what you mean.
You mentioned Miami...If you lived in Miami or visited in the 70's my littel story of how I almost met Ali would make sense...
My mom did meet him and said he was very gracious and personable...I have his autograph framed...It means more to me because it has my name on it...
My friend lives in Weston and used to see Dan Marino and Angelo Dundee all the time...
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Big Bad John
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
While I don't think that the late 1970s light heavyweights were the best crop the division's ever seen, they sure were the most exciting. For the best, I'd go with the late 1920s:
- Gene Tunney
- Harry Greb
- Tommy Loughran
- Tommy Gibbons
- Maxie Rosenbloom
- Georges Carpentier
- Jack Delaney
- Paul Berlenbach
- Mike McTigue
- Ezzard Charles
- Archie Moore
- Lloyd Marshall
- Joey Maxim
- Jake LaMotta
- Curtis Sheppard
- Jimmy Bivins
- Harold Johnson
- Billy Conn
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Big Bad John wrote:While I don't think that the late 1970s light heavyweights were the best crop the division's ever seen, they sure were the most exciting. For the best, I'd go with the late 1920s:I mean, a great fighter like Jim Braddock was basically lost in the division. Also take a look at the 1940s. The middleweight division of that era was better than the light heavyweight division, but look at some of the names:
- Gene Tunney
- Harry Greb
- Tommy Loughran
- Tommy Gibbons
- Maxie Rosenbloom
- Georges Carpentier
- Jack Delaney
- Paul Berlenbach
- Mike McTigue
- Ezzard Charles
- Archie Moore
- Lloyd Marshall
- Joey Maxim
- Jake LaMotta
- Curtis Sheppard
- Jimmy Bivins
- Harold Johnson
- Billy Conn
Zac,didn't you claim you wanted to spend less time on the 'net as it was rotting what's left of your mind?
Yet, every time I log on you seem to be making a fool of yourself in every thread in here.
Turn the computer off, mate and spend some time with your kid.
You'll thank me for this one day.
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
This was a great era in the division. A couple of people mentioned James Scott and Jesse Burnett. There was also Jerry "The Bull" Martin, Maury Sutherland, and Richie Kates.Harvey Levy wrote:To me one of the most exiting periods in boxing was during the late 1970's to early 80's in which an often under represented LHW division gave the boxing fan numerous exiting fights.
The division was loaded with talent and they often fought each other to give us memorable fights.
The most notable fighters of the era were;
Victor Galindez, Matthew (Franklyn) Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Dwight (Braxton) Muhammad Qawi, and finally Michael Spinks. Other very good fighters were Mike Rossman, Yaqui Lopez (my favorite), Eddie (Gregory) Mustafa Muhammad and John Conteh.
At which division was your favorite period of boxing?
A lot of good and very good fighters here. a lot of great, exciting fights. This is one of the most overlooked era's in a given weight division.
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Harvey Levy
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
Good points but I would add Charley Burley to the MW list and subtract Bivins and Conn. I mean, Bivins began as a MW in 1940 but fought at about 180 thereafter. Billy Conn last fought as a MW against Teddy Yarosz in July 1938.Big Bad John wrote:While I don't think that the late 1970s light heavyweights were the best crop the division's ever seen, they sure were the most exciting. For the best, I'd go with the late 1920s:I mean, a great fighter like Jim Braddock was basically lost in the division. Also take a look at the 1940s. The middleweight division of that era was better than the light heavyweight division, but look at some of the names:
- Gene Tunney
- Harry Greb
- Tommy Loughran
- Tommy Gibbons
- Maxie Rosenbloom
- Georges Carpentier
- Jack Delaney
- Paul Berlenbach
- Mike McTigue
- Ezzard Charles
- Archie Moore
- Lloyd Marshall
- Joey Maxim
- Jake LaMotta
- Curtis Sheppard
- Jimmy Bivins
- Harold Johnson
- Billy Conn
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Re: Light Heavy Weight Division in the late 70's and early 80's.
That second list is of light heavyweights of the 1940s. I apologize for the ambiguous wording. True, most of those fighters did start out at middleweight, but they made their names at light heavyweight as well. Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore are arguably 1 and 2 at 175. Bivins and Conn are also top-10. Johnson and Maxim are arguably top-15, and Sheppard, LaMotta and Marshall simply terrorized the division. Marshall knocked out Ezzard Charles and beat Joey Maxim. Sheppard arguably hit harder than any fighter under 175 pounds. And LaMotta was a ranked light heavyweight who would've been a top fighter at that weight if it hadn't been for the Fox dive.