GEORGE CHUVALO

[rugrat]

WATCHED A LOT OF HIS FIGHTS THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS GUY COULD FIGHT. HE WAS VERY TOUGH. HIS BRAWL WITH JOE FRASER WITH A REAL GOOD BATTLE. THEY TRADED BOMBS. IN ANOTHER ERA HE COULD HAVE BEEN A CHAMP. TWICE WENT THE DISTANCE WITH A PRIME ALI. CHUVALO LAID SOME HEAT TO ALI BODY. LOSS THE TWO DECISIONS. WAS ROBBED AGAINST TERRELL. KNOCKED OUT JERRY QUARRY WITH A BIG LEFT HOOK. JERRY MISPLAYED THE COUNT* THE HOOK HELPED WITH THAT. ALWAYS ENJOYED BIG GEORGE. HIS DRUG MESSAGE TO KIDS TODAY IS ONE OF THE BEST ANTI-DRUG MESSAGES AROUND. KIDS WILL TELL YOU THAT THEMSELFS. GEORGE IS NOW 70 YEARS OLD. STILL IN GREAT SHAPE. POWERS LIFTS EVERY MORNING. TRAVELS TO SCHOOLS AND BOYS CLUBS TO SPEAK TO KIDS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF THE WORLD IN BOXING. BUT HE IS A CHAMP TO MANY OF KIDS HERE IN CANADA.

[Cap]

George is a hero to a lot of young people today. He was a great action fighter. I was never bored watching one of his fights cause he fought three minutes every round, unlike blubberweights of today.

Cap

[rugrat]

right on the mark there. he was never in a dull fight. kids are the big winners today. he fights for them.

[JC]

[Robinson]

I always enjoy watching Chuvalo fight. Even if he does get a bit dirty
in the mix of it all.

[Martin Sosa Cameron]

George Chuvalo is a very good example as fighter and as a man

[HomicideHenry]

While I like George Chuvalo, I still don't agree with him that he was robbed against both Floyd Patterson and Ernie Terrell. He was on par with ANY of the top contenders of the 60's and 70's, but he was not on the level with Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman or Patterson...sorry!

[Cap]

You're entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong. Even Patterson thought he was behind after 10 rounds and George whipped him in the 11th and 12th. Chuvalo was the "durable foreigner" and Patterson was the sentimental favourite. In the case of Terrell. The fix was in and Chuvalo's manager was warned by Blinky Palermo to keep quiet or he'd end up in Lake Ontario with cement overshoes. And that came straight from the man's own mouth.

[Collins2000]

You're entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong. Even Patterson thought he was behind after 10 rounds and George whipped him in the 11th and 12th. Chuvalo was the "durable foreigner" and Patterson was the sentimental favourite. In the case of Terrell. The fix was in and Chuvalo's manager was warned to keep quiet or he'd end up in Lake Ontario with cement overshoes.

utter rubbish

[raylawpc]

Well, Cap's a Canadian, so . . .

But in fairness to him, this Swedish-American still thinks Ingo got a short count against Patterson in 1961, so there you go.

[dempseyfire]

Patterson clearly beat Chuvalo in a tough fight.

[Martin Sosa Cameron]

George Chuvalo is a very good example as fighter and as a man. He had a big rival in other very good Canadian: Bob Cleroux. George allways had serious troubles against Argentinian fighters as Alex Miteff, Oscar Bonavena and Eduardo Corletti. Chuvalo was a lot of years between the top ten heavyweights ratings of the world

[harrygreb]

george is a true champ among men. live long champ

[Cap]

Well, Cap's a Canadian, so . . .

But in fairness to him, this Swedish-American still thinks Ingo got a short count against Patterson in 1961, so there you go.

and here's a shocking thought, maybe he did. I know things like that never ever ever happen in the United States of America though. So let's all expunge that thought from our collective minds. Alongwith Marciano never fouled a fighter, Holmes never thumbed more than five or six guys in his career, and Holyfield never used his head.....

As a free Canadian, I can still think as I please and I can see things without the blinkers that others are born with. George Chuvalo would have got the nod over Patterson if that fight had taken place in any other country in the world. As for the Terrell fight, even you Yanks can't deny the underworld connections behind Terrell. He was a mob fighter.

[raylawpc]

Well, Cap's a Canadian, so . . .

But in fairness to him, this Swedish-American still thinks Ingo got a short count against Patterson in 1961, so there you go.

and here's a shocking thought, maybe he did. I know things like that never ever ever happen in the United States of America though. So let's all expunge that thought from our collective minds. Alongwith Marciano never fouled a fighter, Holmes never thumbed more than five or six guys in his career, and Holyfield never used his head.....

As a free Canadian, I can still think as I please and I can see things without the blinkers that others are born with. George Chuvalo would have got the nod over Patterson if that fight had taken place in any other country in the world. As for the Terrell fight, even you Yanks can't deny the underworld connections behind Terrell. He was a mob fighter.

Cap, it was a joke. Hence the . (And, no, I don't really think Johansson got a fast count.)

[John Galt]

Does anybody know if Chuvalo was a natural left hander? Was he turned around because at left handers could not get fights? I ask because his left hand looks a bit better than his right IMO.

[Robinson]

I felt Patterson beat Chuvalo.

Though I shall score the fight to see how I have it.

It was agood tough fight however.

[Robinson]

My GF thinks George has an awesomely big jaw, worthy of
being an action hero. She wanted me to add that.

[Collins2000]

Well, Cap's a Canadian, so . . .

But in fairness to him, this Swedish-American still thinks Ingo got a short count against Patterson in 1961, so there you go.

and here's a shocking thought, maybe he did. I know things like that never ever ever happen in the United States of America though. So let's all expunge that thought from our collective minds. Alongwith Marciano never fouled a fighter, Holmes never thumbed more than five or six guys in his career, and Holyfield never used his head.....

As a free Canadian, I can still think as I please and I can see things without the blinkers that others are born with. George Chuvalo would have got the nod over Patterson if that fight had taken place in any other country in the world. As for the Terrell fight, even you Yanks can't deny the underworld connections behind Terrell. He was a mob fighter.

Nationalistic nonsense.

[I Feel Fine]

Its a bit tiring listening to people lecture Americans. Ali's title fight in Canada with Chuvalo had a couple of disgraceful moments; Ali's name being announced first by the ring announcer, Chuvalo's second (ala Holmes-Cooney) and then the Canadian referee actually admitting after the fight that he had allowed Chuvalo to low blow Ali at will. Shameful hometown bias. The scoring was fair, but so was the scoring in Patterson-Chuvalo. Patterson clearly won the fight.

As for Chuvalo; great fighter. He gave Ali and Frazier competitive fights, managed to beat Quarry, didn't quit or go down in the face of Foreman's barrage, and had possibly the best fight of the 1960's against Patterson. Maybe the bravest fighter I've ever seen, with perhaps the best chin. Rocky Marciano supposedly said that Chuvalo was a fighter who could not be knocked out. In an alphabet era he could have won a belt.

[Jaywheel]

His personal life is such a tragedy, it's amazing to see him do what he does for the youth

[yancey]

Its a bit tiring listening to people lecture Americans. Ali's title fight in Canada with Chuvalo had a couple of disgraceful moments; Ali's name being announced first by the ring announcer, Chuvalo's second (ala Holmes-Cooney) and then the Canadian referee actually admitting after the fight that he had allowed Chuvalo to low blow Ali at will. Shameful hometown bias. The scoring was fair, but so was the scoring in Patterson-Chuvalo. Patterson clearly won the fight.

As for Chuvalo; great fighter. He gave Ali and Frazier competitive fights, managed to beat Quarry, didn't quit or go down in the face of Foreman's barrage, and had possibly the best fight of the 1960's against Patterson. Maybe the bravest fighter I've ever seen, with perhaps the best chin. Rocky Marciano supposedly said that Chuvalo was a fighter who could not be knocked out. In an alphabet era he could have won a belt.

Your definition of "competitive" is a lot more liberal than mine.

Have you ever seen photos of Chuvalo's face after 9 minutes, 16 seconds with Joe Frazier?

There is one at Ebay if you care to go there and type in Chuvalo.

No wonder the man turned away.

[I Feel Fine]

Your definition of "competitive" is a lot more liberal than mine.

Have you ever seen photos of Chuvalo's face after 9 minutes, 16 seconds with Joe Frazier?

There is one at Ebay if you care to go there and type in Chuvalo.

No wonder the man turned away.

Chuvalo was giving Frazier a very tough fight for as long as it lasted. How much facial damage you receive has almost no bearing on the question of how competitive a fight was/wasn't. Unless you're suggesting Ali won the first fight with Frazier on the basis that Frazier's face was in worse shape than Ali's, which would be quite a stupid way to judge a fight.

Luckily, I think we all know who you had as the winner in that one.

Thanks for trying.

As for Chuvalo turning away from Frazier; remember when Frazier turned away from Foreman? It must have been because of all the pushing.

[yancey]

Your definition of "competitive" is a lot more liberal than mine.

Have you ever seen photos of Chuvalo's face after 9 minutes, 16 seconds with Joe Frazier?

There is one at Ebay if you care to go there and type in Chuvalo.

No wonder the man turned away.

Chuvalo was giving Frazier a very tough fight for as long as it lasted. How much facial damage you receive has almost no bearing on the question of how competitive a fight was/wasn't. Unless you're suggesting Ali won the first fight with Frazier on the basis that Frazier's face was in worse shape than Ali's, which would be quite a stupid way to judge a fight.

Luckily, I think we all know who you had as the winner in that one.

Thanks for trying.

As for Chuvalo turning away from Frazier; remember when Frazier turned away from Foreman? It must have been because of all the pushing.

I've always liked Chuvalo, but in truth he was a virtual punching bag in the Frazier fight. You can even hear someone at ringside in the 3rd round calling him a punching bag on the youtube video.

Standing one's ground and absorbing brutal punishment without really inflicting much of your own doesn't qualify as giving someone a very tough fight in my book.

Cheers.

[yancey]

p.s. I consider Chuvalo an absolute miracle for absorbing all of the punishment he took over so many fights and now in his 70s having good mental accuity, according to what I've read.

When I got reinterested in boxing a few years ago, George and his present day condition was one of the first things I checked on. It really is astounding, and good for him.