John L Gardner vs Paul Sykes full fight on You Tube

[funso banjo baby]

quarless is beyond reproach tho

[Coco]

quarless is beyond reproach tho

Whats the story there??

[funso banjo baby]

nothing

hes a good boy

[Mimmy]

I have heard the nonce rumours about sykes also.Two of his sons are both serving time for brutal murders as well so not much of a father either by all accounts.

as far as im aware only one son is in prison for murder. what is the story about the other son.

[Coco]

I have heard the nonce rumours about sykes also.Two of his sons are both serving time for brutal murders as well so not much of a father either by all accounts.

as far as im aware only one son is in prison for murder. what is the story about the other son.

No both sons are, i'll see if I can find a link for you


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 4229004.jp

[Collins2000]

I added Sibbo vs Dangerous Don Lee - great scrap with multiple knockdowns both ways.

[bennie]

I added Sibbo vs Dangerous Don Lee - great scrap with multiple knockdowns both ways.

Now, this is a fight. Moody Sibbo losing a fight he should have won.
Cheers, Collins2000.

[funso banjo baby]

saw this the other day

ur a diamond

sibbo was always moody...hed just comeback after the hagler loss and blitzed John Collins...and then blew it against the unheralded Lee...gr8 fight

Sibbo was name in the states for a good few years

[Mimmy]

I have heard the nonce rumours about sykes also.Two of his sons are both serving time for brutal murders as well so not much of a father either by all accounts.

as far as im aware only one son is in prison for murder. what is the story about the other son.

No both sons are, i'll see if I can find a link for you


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 4229004.jp

that sounds horrific.

[forcefraser]

Sykes was a bully. Simple as that. Drunk, he was a nightmare.

He used to have a party trick with a bucket of sand and his middle leg.

He terrorized our estate.

[thaibox uk]

Has anyone got Kirkland Laing v George Collins that they can put on youtube?
Its a fight i,ve always wanted to see but not managed to get hold of especially the opening round.

[fatcity69]

Has anyone got Kirkland Laing v George Collins that they can put on youtube?
Its a fight i,ve always wanted to see but not managed to get hold of especially the opening round.

Pm me about the fight and I can sort it out for you... I have the whole fight if you'd like it...

[fatcity69]

Does anyone know what happened to David Pearce... I know he was only about 42 when he died and just wondered if it was related to the reason why he had his lisence suspended, or something else altogether... not a very cheerful subject I know but curiosity is annoying and I was a big fan of Pearce, shame things went the way they did for him, he seemed like a decent guy...

[fatcity69]

Going back into this thread a bit I always thought it was a big mistake not to have Bruno fight for the British title, I think he would have developed better had he done so... there was nothing wrong with brunos chin... his problem was stamina due to being tense and a lack of ability to defend himself well when he was hurt... chinwise though I think Bruno was pretty solid...
I wonder if Bruno regrets not fighting for British title and perhaps having a lonsdale belt today?...

[overhand_right]

My old man was a prison officer at wakefield in the mid 80s and knows alot about Paul Sykes.

He told me plenty of stuff last night over the phone, his first reaction to the mention of Sykes name being a groan followed by 'thats a gruesome name from the past'. Some of the stuff he told me included how in the weights room Sykes had hit one of the prison officers over the head with a weight of some description and the fella never worked again.

He said another prison officer, possibly called Barry Ramsden (?) or Marsden (?), was a huge guy, 6'4'' and a former heavyweight boxer himself. At some point in the past Barry had shared a ring with Sykes, he said he had no skill at all and if you had the balls to stand up to him he wasn't that dangerous at all. The old man recalled vividly how he turned his back on John L Gardner because the fight was a bit tough and that was the officers general opinion of Sykes, he was just a bully who wanted to dish it out but couldn't take it.

My favourite story though was how he told me there was a pub very near Wakefield Prison that Sykes like to frequent. One of his habits was to go up to people who'd just bought a pint, stand over them & spit in it, knowing they wouldn't then drink it so he'd take it off them and drink it himself. Well one night in the late 80s he performed this trick on some young fella hanging out in the pub with a few quiet but mean guys. They said nothing, let Sykes have the pint and all left. A few hours later, Sykes came out of the pub in the dark, obviously a little worse for wear after how many drinks, and these guys were all waiting for him. Apparently these guys knocked him to the ground and absolutely brutalised him, worked over something fierce and were evn taking free kicks on his head. After the beating Sykes was not seen around that area for a very long time.

Couldn't of happened to a more deserving fella, and my dad felt everybodys a lot better off with the guy dead & buried.

[funso banjo baby]

Going back into this thread a bit I always thought it was a big mistake not to have Bruno fight for the British title, I think he would have developed better had he done so... there was nothing wrong with brunos chin... his problem was stamina due to being tense and a lack of ability to defend himself well when he was hurt... chinwise though I think Bruno was pretty solid...
I wonder if Bruno regrets not fighting for British title and perhaps having a lonsdale belt today?...

he would have perhaps learnt more but would have been stretched by more seasoned brits with the result that although he would have prevailed he simply wouldnt have had the Ko string and aura of power that led to his first heavyweight world title tilt...maybe

[overhand_right]

Sounds just deserving of that no good c*nt even thougn ihate people who attack people in groups. Lenny McLean wanted to fight sykes on the street and he wouldn't have, i know McLean wasn't that clever in the ring but on the street he was completely different, probably un-beatable.

I agree about the people attacking in groups, but with Sykes i'll make an exception. It was necessary, and totally deserving.

[MightyWarrior]

Obituary: David Pearce
Independent, The (London), Jun 1, 2000 by Adam Szreter

MANY OF the virtues that earned David Pearce the title of British heavyweight champion at the age of 20 were instilled in him almost from birth. Like his father Walter, who earned a living taking on all comers in the fairground booths of South Wales, as a boxer Pearce was a fighter first and last. He was brave, tenacious and never gave up. It is more than likely that these same qualities contributed to his death.

Walter Pearce had seven sons; six of them boxed at one time or another (the seventh became a dancer), but David was the most successful. He began boxing aged 10, when he joined the Newport Sporting Club, and won his first eight fights as a professional. However, when he challenged Neville Meade for the Welsh heavyweight title in January 1980 in Caerphilly, "Bomber", as Pearce had become known to his fans, was stopped in the second round.

Undaunted, in the following year he scored a notable victory over his fellow Briton Dennis Andries and by 1983 Pearce had worked his way into contention for the British title, now held by Meade. In September the two men fought for a second time, in Cardiff, and though the champion was strongly fancied to retain his title Pearce's courage and determination carried him through and he stopped Meade in the ninth round.

Six months later he challenged Lucien Rodriguez for the European title, taking the Frenchman all the way before losing on points, but it was after that fight that Pearce's problems began. A scan revealed that he had developed a brain abnormality and the British Boxing Board of Control withdrew his licence. They declared the heavyweight title vacant but this time Pearce would not accept the judges' verdict.

After an unsuccessful appeal to regain his licence in Britain, in 1985 he signed to fight the former world champion Leon Spinks in Montreal but the Canadian authorities stepped in at the last moment and refused to sanction the contest. For the next five years, under the auspices of various organisations, Pearce attempted to stage fights back home in South Wales but none came to fruition.

Eventually, in January 1991, he was given permission by the Michigan State Commission to fight the American Perscelle Davis in Dearborn, just outside Detroit. Throughout his career Pearce had struggled to build his body up from a natural light-heavyweight into a more lucrative heavyweight, and in Davis he was taking on a giant of a man who outweighed him by four stones. As ever Pearce gave his all but by the time the fight was stopped in the eighth round he had been badly beaten.

After lengthy treatment in hospital in Cardiff he returned home to Newport where he began to be afflicted by epilepsy and, later, Alzheimer's disease. Though he remained angered by the lack of financial assistance from the BBBC once his licence had been withdrawn, Pearce was always popular with other boxers and, despite his many frustrations, talked with understandable pride about his 21- fight career.

David Pearce, boxer: born Newport, Monmouthshire 8 May 1959; died Newport 20 May 2000 - RIP

[funso banjo baby]

have u got any of the wba hw title fights from 80's for youtube

tate

weaver

dokes

page

cotezee

[lowersmiths]

I have heard the nonce rumours about sykes also.Two of his sons are both serving time for brutal murders as well so not much of a father either by all accounts.

as far as im aware only one son is in prison for murder. what is the story about the other son.

No both sons are, i'll see if I can find a link for you


http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 4229004.jp

that really is shocking, especially as both were featured in the sykes at large documentary as little kids.

what happened to the mother then? she was very young (if i remember correctly).

as for the book - a lot was said in the documentary about how clever sykes was but the book isnt very well written. i read it again a couple of months ago and wasnt very impressed.

[bennie]

I met Pearce in 1983. He was fine, then, but the Rodriguez 12-rounder a year later signified that something was clearly wrong. Rodriguez couldn't break an egg but survived a wobbly middle round and dished out a brutal beating, knocking David's head back repeatedly. It was sickening stuff. Pearce just couldn't get out of the way of anything. The dodgy brain scan soon followed.


PS: Pearce destroying Gordon Ferris is a great display of ferocity from a peak Pearce.

[Mimmy]

Sykes was married to a woman called Pauline, he then met a young school girl called Cath, younger than 16 whilst he was boxing. He eventually married Cath but cant remember if he stuck with her to the end. Cath is still alaive as i had a email once from a guy who wanted to buy a book off me for Cath as she did not have the book Sykes wrote whilst in prison.

[lowersmiths]

Sykes was married to a woman called Pauline, he then met a young school girl called Cath, younger than 16 whilst he was boxing. He eventually married Cath but cant remember if he stuck with her to the end. Cath is still alaive as i had a email once from a guy who wanted to buy a book off me for Cath as she did not have the book Sykes wrote whilst in prison.

yes i can remember the marriage to cath in the documentary - ''i'm not playing pretend christian s***''
how about that bloke dennis flint with the rolls royce desk and the wig?

[fatcity69]

Obituary: David Pearce
Independent, The (London), Jun 1, 2000 by Adam Szreter

MANY OF the virtues that earned David Pearce the title of British heavyweight champion at the age of 20 were instilled in him almost from birth. Like his father Walter, who earned a living taking on all comers in the fairground booths of South Wales, as a boxer Pearce was a fighter first and last. He was brave, tenacious and never gave up. It is more than likely that these same qualities contributed to his death.

Walter Pearce had seven sons; six of them boxed at one time or another (the seventh became a dancer), but David was the most successful. He began boxing aged 10, when he joined the Newport Sporting Club, and won his first eight fights as a professional. However, when he challenged Neville Meade for the Welsh heavyweight title in January 1980 in Caerphilly, "Bomber", as Pearce had become known to his fans, was stopped in the second round.

Undaunted, in the following year he scored a notable victory over his fellow Briton Dennis Andries and by 1983 Pearce had worked his way into contention for the British title, now held by Meade. In September the two men fought for a second time, in Cardiff, and though the champion was strongly fancied to retain his title Pearce's courage and determination carried him through and he stopped Meade in the ninth round.

Six months later he challenged Lucien Rodriguez for the European title, taking the Frenchman all the way before losing on points, but it was after that fight that Pearce's problems began. A scan revealed that he had developed a brain abnormality and the British Boxing Board of Control withdrew his licence. They declared the heavyweight title vacant but this time Pearce would not accept the judges' verdict.

After an unsuccessful appeal to regain his licence in Britain, in 1985 he signed to fight the former world champion Leon Spinks in Montreal but the Canadian authorities stepped in at the last moment and refused to sanction the contest. For the next five years, under the auspices of various organisations, Pearce attempted to stage fights back home in South Wales but none came to fruition.

Eventually, in January 1991, he was given permission by the Michigan State Commission to fight the American Perscelle Davis in Dearborn, just outside Detroit. Throughout his career Pearce had struggled to build his body up from a natural light-heavyweight into a more lucrative heavyweight, and in Davis he was taking on a giant of a man who outweighed him by four stones. As ever Pearce gave his all but by the time the fight was stopped in the eighth round he had been badly beaten.

After lengthy treatment in hospital in Cardiff he returned home to Newport where he began to be afflicted by epilepsy and, later, Alzheimer's disease. Though he remained angered by the lack of financial assistance from the BBBC once his licence had been withdrawn, Pearce was always popular with other boxers and, despite his many frustrations, talked with understandable pride about his 21- fight career.

David Pearce, boxer: born Newport, Monmouthshire 8 May 1959; died Newport 20 May 2000 - RIP

Thats very sad, I didnt know that about his last fight... makes you wonder whether he'd still be around now if he hadnt had that... I think I remember Pearce claiming that the brain abnormality was from a childhood accident?... anyone remember this?... his wins over Ferris and Meade are good to watch... any one have the meade fight in full?..... I would have like to have seen Pearce vs Gardner... would have been good fight, both simular styles and sizes...

[Owain]

David Pearce bio here http://www.johnnyowen.com/david_pearce.html

Pearce v Ferris and v Rodriguez (and many other fights) here http://www.johnnyowen.com/boxing_clips.html