Granberry and the Ali love

[TheOneIsHere2008]

what are these private messages ?

is it ur masonic lodge ?

I almost hurt my side from laughing so hard...

[raylawpc]

Ali not being inducted into the armed forces of the United
States was no more a stand than any other man who refused
induction.

What made him better than any other conscript that was
forced into service ?

I do not agree with Conscription in such circumstances,
but it is the law of the land. And besides being the worlds
heavyweight champion, and a great one at that, he is
still a citizen of the United States.

Muhammad Ali applied for conscientious objector status and was denied that status...He appealed that decision to the United States Supreme Court which is the highest court in the land and was granted that status in a unanimous 8-0 decision:

http://www.aavw.org/protest/ali_alivus_ ... _full.html

During the appeal which took 3 1/2 years he was denied an opportunity to box in the United States and his passport was taken away so he could not fight abroad...That decision cost him his physical peak (from the age of 27-30) and approximately ten million dollars...Plus he faced five years imprisonment if his appeal was denied...


Lots of young men avoided induction but did so surreptitiously; by getting college deferments, by going to Canada or purposely failing their physicals...Muhammad Ali made his opposition to the war publicly and was willing to suffer the consequences

He became the face of every American who opposed that war and has been vindicated by time...

P.S. If you want I can go on about how blacks in the American South up until 1965 could not vote, could not marry outside their race, could not eat at certain restaurants nor lodge at certain hotels, nor drink from water fountains or defecate or urinate in toliets that were reserved for whites...This was the milieu he found himself in...

No, that's not what happened. The Surpeme Court did not reverse his conviction because he met the status of a conscientious objector (Only Justice Douglas sided with him on that - big surprise there. ). It reversed the conviction on the technical ground that Selective Service Appeal Board failed to give a reason for its denial of a Ali's conscientious objector exemption, thus making it impossible to determine on which grounds for denial the Board relied. So it reversed based on established precedent in Sicurella v. United States, 348 U.S. 385 (1955), which says that the Appeals Board has to identify its grounds for denial with specificity. Ali's conviction was reserved on what laymen call a "techincality." The Court never reached the issue whether he was a conscientious objector. After the conviction was reversed, the Justice Department didn't press the issue and the case was dropped. But no court of law ever proclaimed him a "conscientious objector" within the meaning of the law.

(I personally don't think Sicurella applied to Ali's case - but they are the Supreme Court and I'm just a dumb country lawyer, so what do I know? I think they were looking for an excuse to reverse the case, and hung their hats on Sicurella.)

[Collins2000]

Private Message I just got:

No matter what Ali's I.Q. was, if it was 78 or whatever, it was far superior to the I.Q. of The One Is Here. That guy is proof that anyone can use a computer.

So you get PMs from other freaks. That's nothing to boast about.

[ebeneezer]

collins/TheOne has exposed his real identity by not being able to control his fixation on homosexuality.

LOL

Queers just can't control themselves.

The question is, why is a poster with such an overwhelming fixation on his homosexuality compelled to post on "boxing" sites?

[TheOneIsHere2008]

collins/TheOne has exposed his real identity by not being able to control his fixation on homosexuality.

LOL

Queers just can't control themselves.

The question is, why is a poster with such an overwhelming fixation on his homosexuality compelled to post on "boxing" sites?

[kikibalt]

Ali not being inducted into the armed forces of the United
States was no more a stand than any other man who refused
induction.

What made him better than any other conscript that was
forced into service ?

I do not agree with Conscription in such circumstances,
but it is the law of the land. And besides being the worlds
heavyweight champion, and a great one at that, he is
still a citizen of the United States.

Muhammad Ali applied for conscientious objector status and was denied that status...He appealed that decision to the United States Supreme Court which is the highest court in the land and was granted that status in a unanimous 8-0 decision:

http://www.aavw.org/protest/ali_alivus_ ... _full.html

During the appeal which took 3 1/2 years he was denied an opportunity to box in the United States and his passport was taken away so he could not fight abroad...That decision cost him his physical peak (from the age of 27-30) and approximately ten million dollars...Plus he faced five years imprisonment if his appeal was denied...


Lots of young men avoided induction but did so surreptitiously; by getting college deferments, by going to Canada or purposely failing their physicals...Muhammad Ali made his opposition to the war publicly and was willing to suffer the consequences

He became the face of every American who opposed that war and has been vindicated by time...

P.S. If you want I can go on about how blacks in the American South up until 1965 could not vote, could not marry outside their race, could not eat at certain restaurants nor lodge at certain hotels, nor drink from water fountains or defecate or urinate in toliets that were reserved for whites...This was the milieu he found himself in...

No, that's not what happened. The Surpeme Court did not reverse his conviction because he met the status of a conscientious objector (Only Justice Douglas sided with him on that - big surprise there. ). It reversed the conviction on the technical ground that Selective Service Appeal Board failed to give a reason for its denial of a Ali's conscientious objector exemption, thus making it impossible to determine on which grounds for denial the Board relied. So it reversed based on established precedent in Sicurella v. United States, 348 U.S. 385 (1955), which says that the Appeals Board has to identify its grounds for denial with specificity. Ali's conviction was reserved on what laymen call a "techincality." The Court never reached the issue whether he was a conscientious objector. After the conviction was reversed, the Justice Department didn't press the issue and the case was dropped. But no court of law ever proclaimed him a "conscientious objector" within the meaning of the law.

(I personally don't think Sicurella applied to Ali's case - but they are the Supreme Court and I'm just a dumb country lawyer, so what do I know? I think they were looking for an excuse to reverse the case, and hung their hats on Sicurella.)

I'm just a dumb country lawyer!! more like the modern day Clarence Darrow....

[raylawpc]

You are much too kind, believe me.

[bjermaine]

collins/TheOne has exposed his real identity by not being able to control his fixation on homosexuality.

LOL

Queers just can't control themselves.

The question is, why is a poster with such an overwhelming fixation on his homosexuality compelled to post on "boxing" sites?

thoooose were the days!!!

[TheOneIsHere2008]

That was one of the funniest shows on television...I still watch it on TV Land when I get the chance... The funny thing is Archie was more advanced in his views in 1978 or so when they closed down the series for good than granny is now...

[funso banjo baby]

what are these private messages ?

is it ur masonic lodge ?

I almost hurt my side from laughing so hard...

my bad

wasnt meant for you

meant for granberry

i was only half ready the thread...some would say fortunatly

needless to say ali rules

[TheOneIsHere2008]

what are these private messages ?

is it ur masonic lodge ?

I almost hurt my side from laughing so hard...

my bad

wasnt meant for you

meant for granberry

i was only half ready the thread...some would say fortunatly

needless to say ali rules

I know...

He most likely made up the messages as did I...Where did you get the cool handle?

What does it mean?