Former great most likely to capture old form...

[Gray-Fox]

Jones to KO Calzaghe by the way, and im being serious

Lol, this guy. I hope you're right.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/7524715.stm



Geoff Boycott, not happy with knocking his wife about is now going around beating up trophies...


blimey

[oliverfennell]

If Tyson trained properly, he'd be undisputed champ again.









(Sorry, I thought this was Current Scene)

ahhh i adore those posts on the current scene. I remember people responding to a quote where Tyson said after the McBride fight "I got beat by the better man, i'm not interested in boxing no more, I haven't trained for years, i just want out"

by saying "If Tyson was trained by Kevin Rooney again, he's be back in shape and KO'ing Vitali in 1 round"

terrific stuff


Jones to KO Calzaghe by the way, and im being serious

Yes, and all those nutters came out again after the glorified spar with Sanders.

[stujones]

I don't think any of them will capture old form.

DLH, Hopkins, neither can beat top names any more. They're too old. So they fight these silly catchweights. Simple solution. Try and get someone smaller than yourself. Tito & RJJ have been on the catchweight tour for seniors also. Can the achievement of beating someone much smaller than yourself be sufficient to qualify as "regaining form"?

A little harsh on Bhop there. Lets not forget its him who is skipping two devision. It is him who for a large part of his career as a Middleweight looked like he could make Light Middle (often under the Middleweight limit). And his last fight before Joe, he faced the #1 Light Heavy. Okay he beat Wright who was out weighed... but I would hardly say Calzaghe was a catch weight contest.

DLH - fair call... but he to has been outweighed in the past (Hopkins) and could be again if it is Tito who he'll fight for his final fight.

[don't call it a comeback]

I don't see anything great from Jones, Tito or Moseley. Hopkins can still win things but he has to win so ugly now that he won't get lauded for it.

Two guys for me. One is DLH who still has the ability to pull one more great win out of the bag although he will have to go down in weight to do it. The other is Winky Wright who still has a bit left on the clock I reckon. I could see him beating Pavlik for instance. Whether old Winky will actually get the big fights is another matter.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

DLH is still a great fighter and the only person besides Castillio that has gotten anywhere near Mayweather

For those internet forum malcontents who love to snipe at Oscar, take a minute to have a look at his career

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer


A modern great, if ever there was one

[Gray-Fox]

A guy who fights the absolute best and comes up short every time...yeah very great.

[Hardhitters11]

For me Hopkin's can still win something although his time is nearing the end.....

DLH has still got big fight's in him but need's to forget about fighting at the higher weights....Indeed does he really need to continue fighting? Stick with the promoting as you will be the biggest promoter around in not too long.

Mosley could still participate strongly at the top level and if matched cleverly could still win and hold a belt of some description.

Tito IMO is just coming back for big fight's to make money and doesn't have the desite anymore at all so should just hang up his glove's for good.

RJJ can and IMO will beat Calzaghe, He may even KO him.

HH

[liamlion]

Hopkins is still a top, top operator.

I really dont think Hopkins has declined at all from the fighter he was 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago. Its only the fact that Hopkins is so old (in terms of top-level performance athletes) that gives people any reason for concern about his ability to show-up and perform.

I definitely think he was the more clever, accurate and effective puncher against Calzaghe - though Calzaghe was definitely the busier.

[oliverfennell]

Hopkins is still a top, top operator.

I really dont think Hopkins has declined at all from the fighter he was 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago. Its only the fact that Hopkins is so old (in terms of top-level performance athletes) that gives people any reason for concern about his ability to show-up and perform.

I definitely think he was the more clever, accurate and effective puncher against Calzaghe - though Calzaghe was definitely the busier.

Yes, I tend to agree. It's lazy to simply look at a guy's age and declare him washed up. BHop isn't QUITE the fighter he was five years ago, but he's still top 3 in his division and the fact he pushed Calzaghe so close and BEAT Tarver and Winky (do people forget these?) in his three most recent fights shows he's still a very capable operator. A lot TWENTY-three-year-olds would be very happy with that form!

Jones, though, is very far gone, in my opinion. That's a cynical note for Calzaghe to bow out on.