Hatton is "nothing" blasts Mayweather

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Apr 2004, 10:53

Roger Mayweather, trainer of new light welterweight contender Floyd Mayweather Junior, says Britain's Ricky Hatton would get "blitzed" in America.
Hatton reportedly turned down a fight with the former two-weight world champion Mayweather Junior, who makes his 140lb debut against DeMarcus Corley in May.
And Roger Mayweather believes Hatton would be defeated by any number of fighters on American soil.
"He's nothing," he said. "In America he wouldn't make the top 10."
"If Hatton came over the water he'd get whupped by (Miguel Angel) Cotto, (Vivian) Harris and Floyd Mayweather.
"He can only fight in front of his own crowd - in America he'd be an ordinary Joe Blow.
"Like Prince Naseem, he's only good as long as he stays in England.
"He ain't smart enough, he's been fighting journeymen and old guys. He's one-dimensional.
"allegedly (Hatton's promoter) knows he's got an 'in-house racehorse' - a guy who wins all the time as long as he's running the show."
Hatton made the 12th defence of his lightly-regarded WBU crown against Dennis Holbaek Pedersen in Manchester on Saturday night.

From the BBC website

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 06 Apr 2004, 11:02

Nobody gives a shit what Mayweather thinks, he's going to be about as exciting to watch at light-welter as Thomas Hearns was at crusier.

Pretty Boy needs to concentrate more on how he's going to earn a living fighting in front of 150 people.

Ooops should have read that article a little more carefully!

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 06 Apr 2004, 11:03

bennie wrote:Roger Mayweather, trainer of new light welterweight contender Floyd Mayweather Junior, says Britain's Ricky Hatton would get "blitzed" in America.
Hatton reportedly turned down a fight with the former two-weight world champion Mayweather Junior, who makes his 140lb debut against DeMarcus Corley in May.
And Roger Mayweather believes Hatton would be defeated by any number of fighters on American soil.
"He's nothing," he said. "In America he wouldn't make the top 10."
"If Hatton came over the water he'd get whupped by (Miguel Angel) Cotto, (Vivian) Harris and Floyd Mayweather.
"He can only fight in front of his own crowd - in America he'd be an ordinary Joe Blow.
"Like Prince Naseem, he's only good as long as he stays in England.
"He ain't smart enough, he's been fighting journeymen and old guys. He's one-dimensional.
"allegedly (Hatton's promoter) knows he's got an 'in-house racehorse' - a guy who wins all the time as long as he's running the show."
Hatton made the 12th defence of his lightly-regarded WBU crown against Dennis Holbaek Pedersen in Manchester on Saturday night.

From the BBC website

The Black Mamba is doing what he does best, talkin trash.

Hatton is world class, no matter what Mayweather or anyone says.
Roger Mayweather should know what it feels like to be unable to beat the true elite - JC Chavez had his number as a pro.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Apr 2004, 11:08

Hatton does need to step it up now as Gary Shaw said at ringside on Saturday (Warren was squirming as he said it). By all accounts, Sharmba Mitchell wants to fight Hatton, Sky want the fight, Showtime want the fight, a huge crowd will turn out, so let's get it on. If Hatton fights another old man on June 5, then that's it.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 06 Apr 2004, 11:11

i love the way american fighters, press, fans etc blast non USA fighters for fighting at home yet hardly any USA champs travel themselves!!!!

Kettle, pan, black.....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Apr 2004, 11:17

No, that's not quite a fair comparison. Remember America is a huge place, and outside of their hometowns a lot of American fighters don't get the kind of huge support that Hatton gets, outside of their home state they are likely to be getting booed or ignored, and there aren't many fighters who are favourites of the crowd in Vegas.

The fact is, the best sparring remains in America, and I think that any aspiring fighter would benefit from living and training in America for a few months a year, it makes a massive difference, look how much better Benn was when he got back from the states.

I think that it makes economic sense for Hatton to fight Mitchell at home, as Mitchell isn't a draw anywhere in the world, so may as well do it where a capacity crowd is guaranteed, MEN.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 06 Apr 2004, 11:18

Agreed. Mark Johnson, case in point. Weight divisions with incredibly few Americans, he's got to number one status never having fought in the hotspots for fighters of fly and super fly weight, indeed, never having fought outside the US.

Not contradicting myself, just pointing out double standards, but for me, it was always the guy in the opposite corner who was more important than the crowd. Plus, Hatton would arguably have more fans, and certainly more vocal fans, than PBF, Harris, Mitchell or maybe even Cotto even if a match was staged in the States.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 06 Apr 2004, 11:18

knockout wrote: Kettle, pan, black.....

.....not forgetting the pot.

J · Post by J » 06 Apr 2004, 11:21

knockout wrote:i love the way american fighters, press, fans etc blast non USA fighters for fighting at home yet hardly any USA champs travel themselves!!!!

Kettle, pan, black.....

Quote RJJ, Ill fight Calzaghe in england if you get me a slot on top of the pops" i shit you not. hahah

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 06 Apr 2004, 12:24

roger mayweather is always talking trash

remember his 2nd fight with chavez he billed himself as the "mexican assassin" and then quit on his stool like a dog.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 Apr 2004, 12:26

TerribleTerry wrote: Roger Mayweather should know what it feels like to be unable to beat the true elite - JC Chavez had his number as a pro.

His brother Floyd Sr had a great line -
"Roger is training Floyd all wrong. He's gonna get him knocked out - but that don't bother Roger, he's used to sleeping in front big crowds"

Priff · Post by **Priff** » 06 Apr 2004, 12:27

MightyWarrior wrote:
TerribleTerry wrote: Roger Mayweather should know what it feels like to be unable to beat the true elite - JC Chavez had his number as a pro.
His brother Floyd Sr had a great line -
"Roger is training Floyd all wrong. He's gonna get him knocked out - but that don't bother Roger, he's used to sleeping in front big crowds"

That's one disfunctional family.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 06 Apr 2004, 12:38

J wrote:
knockout wrote:i love the way american fighters, press, fans etc blast non USA fighters for fighting at home yet hardly any USA champs travel themselves!!!!

Kettle, pan, black.....
Quote RJJ, Ill fight Calzaghe in england if you get me a slot on top of the pops" i shit you not. hahah

Perhaps they should give him a slot - if he raps/sings a tenth as good he boxes he'll be better than most of the bill.

I like statements like these... so much better than the usual drivel. Long live trash talking.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Apr 2004, 12:44

hitman_hatton1 wrote:roger mayweather is always talking trash remember his 2nd fight with chavez he billed himself as the "mexican assassin" and then quit on his stool like a dog.

Yeah, but he gave Tszyu a good 12-rounder.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Apr 2004, 12:45

Mayweather Jr has got bags of talent, but acts likes a 14 year old 'wanna be gangsta'. This seems to run in the family somewhat.

True Hatton really needs to step up a level ASAP, Hatton Vs Mayweather Jr is a fight I'd love to see.

I just can't warm to 'Pretty Boy' and would love to see Hatton pin him against the ropes and rip into his body.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:29

Mayweather would win by UD.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:29

Roger Mayweather is attracting stick here, but he looks at Hatton's world title record and sees this:

Hatton wins WBU title with a win over 36-year-old super-featherweight Tony Pep. Ricky drops to his knees at the finish (spare us, Ricky).

Hatton makes his first defence against 30-year-old Jason Rowland, who had struggled to outpoint Russian journeyman Viktor Baranov in his previous fight 10 months earlier - and was virtually in retirement.

Second defence is against stumpy, dead game but talentless 28-year-old American John Bailey, who seven months earlier had lost to Dennis Holbaek Pedersen in a 12-rounder for the IBC lightweight title.

Third defence is against a 38-year-old former lightweight champ, Freddie Pendleton.

Fourth defence: Justin Rowsell, a 30-year-old Aussie whose only previous excursion into world class had seen him chinned in six by Lovemore N'Dou.

Fifth defence: The 29-year-old Russian Mikhail Krivolapov, who had lost in his only previous excursion outside native shores.

Sixth defence: The 30-year-old Eamonn Magee was the first decent challenger Hatton met. He floored Hatton for the first time in his career and was clearly the bigger puncher throughout. Hatton showed "smarts" to stand off and outbox his man, but Magee is a limited fighter coming forward. He hates coming forward. Would Hatton have been able to outbox a more rounded puncher?

Seventh defence: The 29-year-old Stephen Smith was a joke seventh challenger. He couldn't even win a British title at lightweight, so why was he challenging for a 'world' title at light-welter! His old man knew he was in for a beating, but even he couldn't accept his son's complete manhandling.

Eighth defence: the 32-year-old American southpaw Joe Hutchinson had lost in a round to Teddy Reid.

Ninth defence: Vince "Cool" Phillips was 39 and came for the payday (even squeezing some extra money out of Warren just before the fight, for which he is now being sued). He arrived three days before the fight.

Tenth defence: Warren promised an opponent ranked in the top 10. What we didn't expect was a fighter ranked in the top 10 lightweights! This wasn't a fight. It was just a case of how long 29-year-old Aldo Rios could last.

Eleventh defence: The 30-year-old Ben Tackie was seen as the acid test for Hatton, but he was another who had clearly seen better days. Kostya Tszyu played with him, and Sharmba Mitchell also outclassed - and even floored him, seven months before the Hatton fight.
Tackie had even returned to his native Ghana, no longer an attraction in the States.

Defence number twelve: Kelson Pinto they said. It didn't happen. Three days before the fight, Dennis Holbaek Pedersen, a brave, capable 29-year-old, accepted a no-win fight. He had boxed only once since losing a lightweight title challenge in 2002.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:34

bennie wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:roger mayweather is always talking trash remember his 2nd fight with chavez he billed himself as the "mexican assassin" and then quit on his stool like a dog.
Yeah, but he gave Tszyu a good 12-rounder.

Good as in losing every round?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:36

bennie wrote:Roger Mayweather is attracting stick here, but he looks at Hatton's world title record and sees this:

Hatton wins WBU title with a win over 36-year-old super-featherweight Tony Pep. Ricky drops to his knees at the finish (spare us, Ricky).

Hatton makes his first defence against 30-year-old Jason Rowland, who had struggled to outpoint Russian journeyman Viktor Baranov in his previous fight.

Second defence is against stumpy, dead game but talentless 28-year-old American John Bailey, who seven months earlier had lost to Dennis Holbaek Pedersen in a 12-rounder for the IBC lightweight title.

Third defence is against a 38-year-old former lightweight champ, Freddie Pendleton.

Fourth defence: Justin Rowsell, a 30-year-old Aussie whose only previous excursion into world class had seen him chinned in six by Lovemore N'Dou.

Fifth defence: The 29-year-old Russian Mikhail Krivolapov, who had lost in his only previous excursion outside native shores.

Sixth defence: The 30-year-old Eamonn Magee was the first decent challenger Hatton met. He floored Hatton for the first time in his career and was clearly the bigger puncher throughout. Hatton showed "smarts" to stand off and outbox his man, but Magee is a limited fighter coming forward. He hates coming forward. Would Hatton have been able to outbox a more rounded puncher?

Seventh defence: The 29-year-old Stephen Smith was a joke seventh challenger. He couldn't even win a British title at lightweight, so why was he challenging for a 'world' title at light-welter! His old man knew he was in for a beating, but even he couldn't accept his son's complete manhandling.

Eighth defence: the 32-year-old American southpaw Joe Hutchinson had lost in a round to Teddy Reid.

Ninth defence: Vince "Cool" Phillips was 39 and came for the payday (even squeezing some extra money out of Warren just before the fight, for which he is now being sued). He arrived three days before the fight.

Tenth defence: Warren promised an opponent ranked in the top 10. What we didn't expect was a fighter ranked in the top 10 lightweights! This wasn't a fight. It was just a case of how long 29-year-old Aldo Rios could last.

Eleventh defence: The 30-year-old Ben Tackie was seen as the acid test for Hatton, but he was another who had clearly seen better days. Kostya Tszyu played with him, and Sharmba Mitchell also outclassed - and even floored him, seven months before the Hatton fight.
Tackie had even returned to his native Ghana, no longer an attraction in the States.

Defence number twelve: Kelson Pinto they said. It didn't happen. Three days before the fight, Dennis Holbaek Pedersen, a brave, capable 29-year-old, accepted a no-win fight. He had boxed only once since losing a lightweight title challenge in 2002.

Yes, whilst I don't like any bad comments about a fighter - it is Floyd Mayweather after all, he has backed up his own hype so many times by beating the very best in the devision at 2 different weights so far. He's one of the few guys who could call Hatton "nothing" and get away with it, cause compared to his achievements Hatton has done nothing.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:37

Ninth defence: Vince "Cool" Phillips was 39 and came for the payday (even squeezing some extra money out of Warren just before the fight, for which he is now being sued). He arrived three days before the fight.

Phillips beat zoo and the fight before almost beat mitchell

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:37

REAL_DEAL wrote:
bennie wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:roger mayweather is always talking trash remember his 2nd fight with chavez he billed himself as the "mexican assassin" and then quit on his stool like a dog.
Yeah, but he gave Tszyu a good 12-rounder.
Good as in losing every round?

As in nailing Tszyu continually with right hands.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:40

REAL_DEAL wrote:
Ninth defence: Vince "Cool" Phillips was 39 and came for the payday (even squeezing some extra money out of Warren just before the fight, for which he is now being sued). He arrived three days before the fight.
Phillips beat zoo and the fight before almost beat mitchell

And in his fight after Hatton, was fighting K1.
PS: one judge had Mitchell ahead 99-91.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:40

Eighth defence: the 32-year-old American southpaw Joe Hutchinson had lost in a round to Teddy Reid.

hutchinson was a late sub for someone else, hutchinson wasnt far off from beating gatti

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:41

I can understand where the mamba is coming from though........RH looks the business but its been B - material at best (thinking of Tackie here). Mitchell -RH should happen this summer. zoo's injury has opened a lot of doors for the hitman and he needs to take advantage of them

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 06 Apr 2004, 13:42

Nice summary of Hatton's "title reign," Bennie. I'm no fan of Floyd, either, but he has at least backed up his mouthing off by taking on and beating top guys. You keep doing that, and people generally will be willing to cut you some slack regarding the boasting (but hopefully not the alleged wifebeating.

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