Holmes-Cobb

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 06 Aug 2008, 09:21

Was that the most one sided heavyweight championship bout that went the distance in history?

Did the referee have an obligation to stop it? It seemed Cobb sustained a continual beating that was bad enough to hurt him but not bad enough to knock him down...

After the fight Cobb said Holmes didn't hit very hard...

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 06 Aug 2008, 09:27

People go a bit over the top with this one. Holmes outboxed him but it was never a beating to these eyes -- just Howard Cossell going off on a tangent and being unable to shift gears. Its famously known Cossell weas clueless.

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 06 Aug 2008, 09:30

overhand_right wrote:People go a bit over the top with this one. Holmes outboxed him but it was never a beating to these eyes -- just Howard Cossell going off on a tangent and being unable to shift gears. Its famously known Cossell weas clueless.

If you go to youtube you can see the real ex Mrs Cobbs opine on the fight...She said they went out "partying" after the fight...I guess that's why they're fighters...

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 06 Aug 2008, 10:03

Cobb said after the bout, "Next time we'll fight in a phone booth, and I'll win". I think I had it 150-135.

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 06 Aug 2008, 21:56

Holmes just won the first 15 rounds of that fight, Cobb
was saving himself for the later rounds.

I think it was one sided and while Holmes was looking to
finish the fight, but after awhile you could see him just
working the jab alone.

I think this fight was interesting to watch, as Cobb had been
pretty effective against Dokes and an old Shavers-Norton
yet Holmes completely owned him.

I think the commentary by Cossel was annoying and panic
mongering. That is what makes this fight notable more than
the one sided beating Cobb was receiving.

Cosell was just annoying, and his entire career highlighted
the need for atleast a two man commentary team. He was
just so annoying and like Perchenco would later on...always
always always seemed to link someting to the greatness of
Ali.

tennessee · Post by **tennessee** » 06 Aug 2008, 22:05

im not sure that it was anymore competitive than lewis-tua. both were pretty one-sided

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 06 Aug 2008, 22:09

Except Lewis and Tua did not have anyone having a seizure
on the commentary.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 07 Aug 2008, 09:04

As Howard would point out...

All the facts in this topic lead to the conclusion that Ali was the greatest fighter ever.

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 07 Aug 2008, 09:06

Tantum wrote:As Howard would point out...

All the facts in this topic lead to the conclusion that Ali was the greatest fighter ever.

There is a Zen like quality to that argument.

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 07 Aug 2008, 19:27

And all too many here and else where believe that with
absolute faith.

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:01

Robinson wrote:And all too many here and else where believe that with
absolute faith.

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
-Hebrews 11:1.

Some of us are privileged enough to have seen...

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:11

A bible quote does not make truth.

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:15

Robinson wrote:A bible quote does not make truth.

"All widsom begins with the fear of God."

Proverbs 9:1

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:19

"If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. " Zechariah 13:3 NAB

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:22

" If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife."

Deuteronomy 22:23-24

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:23

Robinson wrote:"If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. " Zechariah 13:3 NAB

That seems contradictory...I am not a fundamentalist, far from it...But the Bible is full of good prose...

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:29

It is also full of contradiction, hatred, vengence, rape and murder.

Great book to base ones moral code on.

Please dont quote the bible to me, I was raised a catholic and read
that book way to many times to care for it.

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 07 Aug 2008, 20:33

Robinson wrote:It is also full of contradiction, hatred, vengence, rape and murder.

Great book to base ones moral code on.

Please dont quote the bible to me, I was raised a catholic and read
that book way to many times to care for it.

We're leading this thread astray... There is good instruction though ,as in The Beatitudes...

And I started with a Biblical quote to show my appreciation for Ali's talents were based on reason and not faith...

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 07 Aug 2008, 21:44

By quoting a book based on faith...?

Sorry to steer thread of topic.

TheOneIsHere2008 · Post by **TheOneIsHere2008** » 07 Aug 2008, 21:45

Robinson wrote:By quoting a book based on faith...?

Sorry to steer thread of topic.

I just don't want us to get in trouble by going off topic...

I shall never quote that book in your presence again...

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 07 Aug 2008, 22:04

Don't censor yourself on my behalf mate :)

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