Trivia: WHO AM I?

[Collins2000]

I was stopped 3 times in my first 20 fights

but am usually considered the 2nd best fighter in the history of my weight class.

That's a lie!

You are Paddy "nobody knows me" Dolan, the crooked manager of Biff Cline.

[Collins2000]

Good thread this, i thinks i will have a go, but this should be easy enough.

who am I.

My brother was a pop star, had hits in the 80's and 90's.

O'Dowd. His brother is Boy George.

granberry knew this one too.

[TheOneIsHere2008]

I was scheduled to have a television bout with Ray Elson when it was discovered I padded my record with three bouts that turned out to be bogus....

[granberry]

Jaclem,

You see how collins[alias TheOne] trashes any boxrec thread he pleases.

collins/TheOne turns boxrec into garbage.

[granberry]

Despite my more or less undistinguished record I knocked out a great featherweight with a single punch.

Something the great Benny Leonard never did in several fights with the same featherweight.

[granberry]

A highlky skilled boxer, I lost a decision in my chance at the lightweight title.

Years later I refereed a number of important fights.

[granberry]

I am the only fighter to beat both a certain heavyweight champion and a certain welterweight-middleweight champion.

I won my title overseas.

[Robinson]

Joey maxim.

[granberry]

Although never anything but a featherweight,

I scored knockouts over THREE lightweight champions.

[granberry]

Joey maxim.

Right.

What two fighters did Maxim beat?

[granberry]

I jumped from holding the welterweight title to fighting lightheavyweights,

and got a shot at the 175 title, which I lost by decision.

[granberry]

I gave Max Baer a boxing lesson,

but Primo Carnera was too large and strong for me when I got my big chance.

[granberry]

I always caught an opponent's jab with my open right hand.

I had the best jab in the business.

I was the best fighter, technically, of my time and one of the best of any time.

My counterpunches started almost before my opponent's lead was thrown.

I won a title in my division late in my career

and lost it to a much lesser fighter than I was on a dubious 'decision.'

[granberry]

I am a blowhard, self-promoting boxing 'trainer' much celebrated by the clueless media.

I claim that I knocked Kid Gavilan down in a sparring session and that I boxed rings around Joe Louis, even though I was much smaller than he was.

All this despite the fact that I never had a pro fight.

And the clueless media stooges believe every word I say and dutifully write them down.

One of the fighters I trained [with much fanfare] for a big fight lasted 58 seconds and another lasted 91 seconds.

It was their fault--not mine.

[Robinson]

Joey maxim.

Right.

What two fighters did Maxim beat?

The great Sugar ray Robinson and Floyd Patterson.

[Jaclem]

okay..here are a few...maxim beat walcott and robinson..

tommy loughran (sp?) re: baer and carnera

best left jab...harold johnson...."lost" to willie pastrano....

these are from the top of my head....i'll look at the others when i am less sleepy.

i don't know anything about collins because i seldom read his posts ...

[Jaclem]

oops..and patterson. that makes two "correct" answers....so gran..which heavyweight chanmpion were you thinking of? i'm guessing walcott because that win is not as much remembered.

[granberry]

okay..here are a few...maxim beat walcott and robinson..

tommy loughran (sp?) re: baer and carnera

best left jab...harold johnson...."lost" to willie pastrano....

these are from the top of my head....i'll look at the others when i am less sleepy.

i don't know anything about collins because i seldom read his posts ...

Jaclem,

You do pretty well when you are sleepy.

[Paddy Dolan]

I lost a middleweight bout to Rubin Carter but went on to become WBA heavyweight champion.

[granberry]

oops..and patterson. that makes two "correct" answers....so gran..which heavyweight chanmpion were you thinking of? i'm guessing walcott because that win is not as much remembered.

I was thinking of Patterson.

Thanks for making me aware of Maxim's win over Walcott.

I know he fought Walcott several times and was not KO'd, but I didn't know he beat Walcott.

Just looked it up.

They fought three times.

Maxim won the first, lost the next two--all by decision.

[Robinson]

I would love to get my hands on the Maxim-Walcott fights.
I only have a compressed version of the Patterson fight, I
thought young Floyd did pretty well against such a talented
veteran like Maxim. Its ashame that it was only a 8 rounder.

[theone]

I lost a middleweight bout to Rubin Carter but went on to become WBA heavyweight champion.

Jimmy Ellis.

[granberry]

I was taken over to Sweden by Angelo Dundee,

and I did the job he wanted me to.

Every morning during the days before the fight I 'refereed,' I had breakfast with Angelo.

[Paddy Dolan]

I lost a middleweight bout to Rubin Carter but went on to become WBA heavyweight champion.

Jimmy Ellis.

Correct. It's kind of amazing.

[Robinson]

That referee-and sole judge that robbed Patterson of his victory
over Jimmy Ellis.

Good fight, very bad decision.

Kym