Wilder gets bronze

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It wasn't my point to insinuate that he would make any money staying amateur - just to say the he wouldn't make much in the pros. Either way, he needs to keep his day job.
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boxmel wrote:
and the money will be there for him now which is very tempting,
Canada, this is actually a myth that keeps getting perpetuated. There really isn't much money in the pros any more (several pro coaches and managers I've talked to also agree). Andre Ward, our only gold medalist in 2004, only got a $500,000 signing bonus compared to the millions given Ricardo Williams and Rocky Juarez. Wilder doesn't even have their credentials. I doubt that he will be able to make enough money to support a family by turning pro.

Mel,

A 4 round fight vs two no names in a lower weight divison offers on average about $500.00

Wilder is an American heavyweight with some promise, but more importantly hype. People want to see him. If Wilder went pro and fought say 10 times in year one, he'll clear about $10,000 plus a signing bonus of say $3,000. I think these are reasonable numbers.

I betcha Wilder's phone will be ringing with offers soon. Most entry level fighters have part time jobs. Wilder wasn't gold. When Ray Mercer won gold, his manger Marc Roberts gave him a $100,000.00 sign on bonus, and that was it the 1980's.

If Boxing doesn't work out for him, he can do something else. But I think Wilder's market value is at high right now. If he wants to go pro, now is the time.
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Did I infer that Wilder is going to make any money in the amateurs? I think not. No matter what he does, he needs to keep his day job.
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pound per pound wrote:
boxmel wrote:
and the money will be there for him now which is very tempting,
Canada, this is actually a myth that keeps getting perpetuated. There really isn't much money in the pros any more (several pro coaches and managers I've talked to also agree). Andre Ward, our only gold medalist in 2004, only got a $500,000 signing bonus compared to the millions given Ricardo Williams and Rocky Juarez. Wilder doesn't even have their credentials. I doubt that he will be able to make enough money to support a family by turning pro.

Mel,

A 4 round fight vs two no names in a lower weight divison offers on average about $500.00

Wilder is an American heavyweight with some promise, but more importantly hype. People want to see him. If Wilder went pro and fought say 10 times in year one, he'll clear about $10,000 plus a signing bonus of say $3,000. I think these are reasonable numbers.

I betcha Wilder's phone will be ringing with offers soon. Most entry level fighters have part time jobs. Wilder wasn't gold. When Ray Mercer won gold, his manger Marc Roberts gave him a $100,000.00 sign on bonus, and that was it the 1980's.

If Boxing doesn't work out for him, he can do something else. But I think Wilder's market value is at high right now. If he wants to go pro, now is the time.
He'll make more than that. When JD Chapman signed with Scott Hirsch from what I remember he had a much larger bonus and guarantee per fight than that and JD doesn't have any amateur background; much less an Olympic medal. I'd like to see Deontay stay amateur for another year or two though. I'd really like to see him and Jeremiah Graziano go at it at Nationals or GG.
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Whatever money is there, Im sure it will be alot more than he'd get if he stayed amatuer. :lol:
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Wilder is an American heavyweight with some promise, but more importantly hype. People want to see him. If Wilder went pro and fought say 10 times in year one, he'll clear about $10,000 plus a signing bonus of say $3,000. I think these are reasonable numbers
Along with his regular work week salary, an extra $10,000 a year would be nice. And I wonder just how many people outside of the small group of boxing fans know who he is. :roll:
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Actually, it sounds like he might make more as an amateur with his stipends? Pro boxing is in really bad shape if that is the case.
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Actually, it sounds like he might make more as an amateur with his stipends? Pro boxing is in really bad shape if that is the case.
The stipends, given and amounts decided by USOC, are not very much. He'd make more as a pro. 8)
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boxmel wrote:
Wilder is an American heavyweight with some promise, but more importantly hype. People want to see him. If Wilder went pro and fought say 10 times in year one, he'll clear about $10,000 plus a signing bonus of say $3,000. I think these are reasonable numbers
Along with his regular work week salary, an extra $10,000 a year would be nice. And I wonder just how many people outside of the small group of boxing fans know who he is. :roll:
Koyla says JD Champan got more than I projected for Wilder.
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I think Wilder would do okay as a pro. He did win a medal and that's something Estrada didn't get in 2004, and he's definitely more than a $10,000 a year fighter. But he also needs a lot more preparation than Estrada. Estrada is technically ready to go 10 even if he isn't physically ready. Wilder is neither and might not be for about 4-5 years.
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