brian magee in with robin reid your having a laugh

beduff · Post by **beduff** » 17 Apr 2004, 17:18

brian should stick to fighting shot fighters and bums,he just is not good enough to take on a world class opponent.in a word he is shit

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 17 Apr 2004, 17:20

Magee and Reid will probably happen, and it will probably be very dirty.

Magee has decent skills, but that performance tonight wasn't great. He should have handled Elliot with total ease if he has any real aspirations at world level.

beduff · Post by **beduff** » 17 Apr 2004, 17:24

i new he was bad but i did not think he was that bad,unless im missing something can someone tell his strong points e.g speed,strengh etc?becuase i just cannot see them.as i said he should stick to beating up punch bag.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 17 Apr 2004, 17:24

Robin Reid hasn't looked too good for a while, thats why Sven fought him. The Robin Reid who fought Calzaghe is a different fighter than the current one. I'd take Magee.

Maddawg · Post by **Maddawg** » 17 Apr 2004, 17:30

I have read some posts in recent weeks claiming Magee is the real deal, soon to be a legit world champ

When will people stop overrating fighters from these shores?

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 17 Apr 2004, 17:36

Magee did look good until this fight, he gave a real beating to Cherifi (better than Eastman did) and Thysse. I think he's gonna look better against a more game and orthodox opponent.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 17 Apr 2004, 18:30

I would love to see this fight if it can be made.

Tuffnutz · Post by **Tuffnutz** » 17 Apr 2004, 19:16

Magee is a good combo puncher but he lacks power and his chin is questionable. Elliot was just a basic brawler with nothing more than a left and right hook. I don't think he even threw a single jab in the fight.

Not to mention it was his first fight at 168. How he ever made 160 i will never know. He looked like a well built fella.

Magee is a good fighter but he's only fringe world class. Stick him in the ring with my man Danny Green or Joe calzaghe and he would'nt last long. Green would do him in 2 rounds.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 17 Apr 2004, 19:19

Tuffnutz wrote:Magee is a good combo puncher but he lacks power and his chin is questionable. Elliot was just a basic brawler with nothing more than a left and right hook. I don't think he even threw a single jab in the fight.

Not to mention it was his first fight at 168. How he ever made 160 i will never know. He looked like a well built fella.

Magee is a good fighter but he's only fringe world class. Stick him in the ring with my man Danny Green or Joe calzaghe and he would'nt last long. Green would do him in 2 rounds.

Your man Green is probably gonna fight Kessler.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Apr 2004, 04:47

I wasn't too impressed with Magees performance against Elliot either. I've never been totally convinced that Magee can ever get past European level and his fight against Elliot renforced my feelings. After all Elliot was just a good but limited, strong crude brawler who did the same thing over and over yet still gave Magee all he could handle.

Magee does eveything well but doesn't do anything exceptionaly well to enable him to give the top 168lbs fighters too many worries.

A fight against Reid would tell us a lot more, I feel Reid has a little more left than he showed against Sven who is a fighter who tends to make his opponents look bad. As mentioned on Sky Magee was open to right hands and Robin has a good right hand so who knows. I think Robin would win this fight unless Magee has more than he has shown so far in his Pro career.

Magee seems to me one of those good compitant fighters who just seems to have something missing in World class terms.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 18 Apr 2004, 05:00

Magee should stay away from Reid..

He would get stopped...

He will not stop Reid and Reid knows way too much...

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 18 Apr 2004, 06:20

DG. wrote: He will not stop Reid and Reid knows way too much...

Beaten me to it. Exactly.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Apr 2004, 06:33

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
DG. wrote: He will not stop Reid and Reid knows way too much...
Beaten me to it. Exactly.

If the money is right I would assume Reid would jump at the chance of fighting Magee after watching his latest performance.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 18 Apr 2004, 06:40

I've never rated Magee. I just don't know how people could think he was the goods when his best resuly was a stoppage of an old, blown up middleweight. Reid would KTFO.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Apr 2004, 07:00

Magee was awful last night, and I don't think I'm being too harsh. Jerry Elliot was slow, lethargic and generally very poor yet Magee had all the trouble in the world. He didn't seem to make any excuses, there was no power at all (what was that pitta patta all about). He looks vulnerable to decent body and head shots (but not massive), and I don't think he come close to winning a world belt.

Saying that, Rob Reid (IMO) is in slight decline and was always an overated fighter. With the preparation Calzaghe had going into that fight he should have beaten him CONVINCINGLY (he won, but that fact the decision can be argued showed it was bad night). Joe had suffered all kinds of injuries and even had food poisioning a few days before the fight.

They are both mediocore in my opnion so it would be fairly interesting, but you have to pick Reid.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 18 Apr 2004, 07:05

stujones wrote: They are both mediocore in my opnion so it would be fairly interesting, but you have to pick Reid.

Reid is in decline, yes, but I've always felt he isn't given enough credit. He's no dancer but he has a few rock-solid attributes. Magee could have just been having a night off I suppose but even on previous performances there is no way I could see him doing anything against Reid.

If somehow this fight could be made for an eliminator for a genuine belt (I can't remember how that news panned out) Reid would think his Christmases have all come at once. Would make a few quid too bashing him up in Belfast.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Apr 2004, 07:13

Reid did well to win the title in Italy, but is was against Mr inconsistent Nardiello. Nardiello is/was a tiny Super Middle and with no championship heart.

He then has a shortish reign as champion and really shouldn't have had the verdict vs Cherifi (I thought the Frenchman was a clear winner). He did a great job on Henry Wharton though.

Then loses his belt to the ancient Sugar Boy Malinga, who nearly got stopped on his way to a wide points defeat by Richie Woodhall in his next fight. He puts in a credible effort vs a very poor Calzaghe, loses widely to an old Branco, I actually thought his fight with Vasquez a 35 year old light middle could have gone either way. He then loses to Ottke.

How can this fighter be underated.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 18 Apr 2004, 07:24

stujones wrote:Reid did well to win the title in Italy, but is was against Mr inconsistent Nardiello. Nardiello is/was a tiny Super Middle and with no championship heart.

He then has a shortish reign as champion and really shouldn't have had the verdict vs Cherifi (I thought the Frenchman was a clear winner). He did a great job on Henry Wharton though.

Then loses his belt to the ancient Sugar Boy Malinga, who nearly got stopped on his way to a wide points defeat by Richie Woodhall in his next fight. He puts in a credible effort vs a very poor Calzaghe, loses widely to an old Branco, I actually thought his fight with Vasquez a 35 year old light middle could have gone either way. He then loses to Ottke.

How can this fighter be underated.

Yeah, he has struggled when he shouldn't sometimes. Occasionally his own worst enemy when he plods along and simply doesn't do enough. He wasn't good against Branco. Cherifi was a good fighter in his day and you will remember that Malinga certainly could be an awkward bastard who gave Benn and Eubank nightmares. Reid gave Calzaghe his toughest test. UD'd Vasquez fairly IMO, if I remember rightly.

And as for Ottke...merely the mention of the name gives me gut ache. In a neutral venue with a decent ref, Reid would have smashed him to bits, definitely would have stopped him.

Reid has a granite chin and a decent bang. Granted - he is a one-paced plodder at times and his defence isn't great. I like him though.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 18 Apr 2004, 07:25

I'd still pick Reid over Magee though, based on last nights performance. I agreee that he looked particularly vulnerable to body shots though, nearly every time he was caught clean to the body his leg lifted off the floor.

J · Post by J » 18 Apr 2004, 07:41

ive always had my doubts bout Magee (ever since he pulled himself out of that fight last year with no explanation), but last night he was truly awful, to get dropped by a limited middleweight coming up off a ko, shows some alarming deficiences in defence and punch resistance. But more alarming to my was his lack of power, the naturally cruder and smaller man just waded through his shots, I cant see Magee making an impact past a european shot in truth, and I dont think he would win that if the opponent was anything like to be honest.
but you never know I suppose.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 18 Apr 2004, 08:16

reid is also number 1 contender for larsen euro title so there is another road reid could go down

also ring magazine made reid the most underrated super middle in the world

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 18 Apr 2004, 10:15

REAL_DEAL wrote:reid is also number 1 contender for larsen euro title so there is another road reid could go down

also ring magazine made reid the most underrated super middle in the world

I think Reid should forget all about fighting Magee, and go down the European route. If he could beat Larsen then a few world title oppertunities and big paydays might develop for him.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 18 Apr 2004, 10:49

I think Magee can hit a bit with his right hook, he throws it well and is pretty accurate with it. Its hard to KO a guy who just walks foward with his chin down and gloves up while just swinging the odd overhand right. I think Magee will look better against a more orthodox and game opponent. That guy just came to survive I thought last night and swung the odd punch just to try and get lucky.

beduff · Post by **beduff** » 18 Apr 2004, 12:36

Lefthookhappy19 wrote:I think Magee can hit a bit with his right hook, he throws it well and is pretty accurate with it. Its hard to KO a guy who just walks foward with his chin down and gloves up while just swinging the odd overhand right. I think Magee will look better against a more orthodox and game opponent. That guy just came to survive I thought last night and swung the odd punch just to try and get lucky.

excuses excuses,he will need more than the luck of the irish to beat reid[or anyone else who can box for that matter]he is poor and always has been.when he beat the old french boy he was shot to pieces,watch the performance and tell me what was so good???nothing he just beat up a old man thats it.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 19 Apr 2004, 03:13

I have always been a fan of Reid although it is usually what might have beens with him. Magee showed a susceptability to right hands on Saturday which is Reid's honey punch, if Reid can get active and not stand around posing and admiring himself in the lights then he can beat Magee. Magee is skilled but i think he is beatable, i tend to agree with the view that Green would beat him.