What fights would you recommend to get on tape?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Apr 2004, 09:50

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Chavez-Taylor
Joe Louis-Billy Conn I
Azumah Nelson-Salvador Sanchez
Fritzie Zivic-Henry Armstrong 1941
My dad-Lew Jenkins (Tokyo exhibition 1952)

Your dad got in there with Lew Jenkins! My God. Brave man. Jenkins was a vicious puncher.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 18 Apr 2004, 10:29

Ken Barlow vs Mike Baldwin 1&3. The second fight was over far too quickly to be a classic

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 18 Apr 2004, 10:42

a good fight to get that most wouldn't of seen is Simon Brown vs Tyrone Trice 1...brilliant.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Apr 2004, 10:51

adamiw wrote:a good fight to get that most wouldn't of seen is Simon Brown vs Tyrone Trice 1...brilliant.

Yeah, I like the underappreciated classics. One that tends to get overlooked is Alexis Arguello-Bazooka Limon in the 70's. One of the rounds was voted Round of the Year by the Ring.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Apr 2004, 12:28

Mark Kaylor Vs Roy Gumbs was I good fight.

Carl Thompson Vs Ezra Sellers

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 18 Apr 2004, 13:09

bennie wrote:
adamiw wrote:a good fight to get that most wouldn't of seen is Simon Brown vs Tyrone Trice 1...brilliant.
Yeah, I like the underappreciated classics. One that tends to get overlooked is Alexis Arguello-Bazooka Limon in the 70's. One of the rounds was voted Round of the Year by the Ring.

yes, a recent example is Dorin-Balbi 1...haven't seen it but it was supposed to be very special.

this is a fantastic list i found...

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w ... llack1.htm

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 18 Apr 2004, 13:41

This is a list of what I think are underappreciated classics....
Gavilan vs Graham 3
Gavilan vs tiger jones
Gavilan vs Womber
Harada vs kingpetch 1 and 2
Harada vs jofre 1 and 2
Harada vs Medal 1 and 2
Harada vs Rose
Harada vs Rudkin
Harada vs Famechon 1 and 2
Chacon vs Olivares 1
Olivares vs Pimental
Olivares vs Arguello
Olivares vs Pedrosa
Duran vs Lampkin
Duran vs Viruet 2
Arguello vs Escalera 1 and 2
Saad vs Kates
Galindez vs Kates 1
Chinoi vs Torres 1
Benitez vs Curry 1
Curry vs Brooks
Shavers vs Lyle
SHavers vs Cobb
Dokes vs Weaver 2
Seabrooks vs anyone!...
Boza vs anyone...
Chacon vs ANYONE!!!....

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 18 Apr 2004, 18:55

Miguel Cotto vs Ray Martinez

2 rounds of brutal stuff...

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Apr 2004, 19:02

silkov wrote:This is a list of what I think are underappreciated classics....
Gavilan vs Graham 3
Gavilan vs tiger jones
Gavilan vs Womber
Harada vs kingpetch 1 and 2
Harada vs jofre 1 and 2
Harada vs Medal 1 and 2
Harada vs Rose
Harada vs Rudkin
Harada vs Famechon 1 and 2
Chacon vs Olivares 1
Olivares vs Pimental
Olivares vs Arguello
Olivares vs Pedrosa
Duran vs Lampkin
Duran vs Viruet 2
Arguello vs Escalera 1 and 2
Saad vs Kates
Galindez vs Kates 1
Chinoi vs Torres 1
Benitez vs Curry 1
Curry vs Brooks
Shavers vs Lyle
SHavers vs Cobb
Dokes vs Weaver 2
Seabrooks vs anyone!...
Boza vs anyone...
Chacon vs ANYONE!!!....

Great list. A fight I've always wanted to see is Curry-Brooks. They just about ruined each other that night.
I'd love to know how Bruce is getting on nowadays.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 18 Apr 2004, 19:13

Boza and Bobby (hope you can see it).

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 18 Apr 2004, 20:40

Bruce Curry vs Monroe Brooks is one of my favourite fights, an almost unbelievable toe to toe slugfest.... I think there was bad blood between the two... they had been freinds but had fallen out over a woman.... Curry was a brilliant box-fighter at this point though you need to watch him against Benitez to appreciate his skills as he just slugged it out against Monroe.... Bruce was easily as talented as Donald but was mismanaged... (put in against Benitez in 15th fight) and the Brooks fight took a lot out of him for sure... he also went toe to toe with Hearns and shook him and badly cut him before being koed in the 3rd.
Brooks had a good fight with Duran.
Here are a few more underrated classics imo....
Robinson vs Fulmer 1, 2, 3 and 4...
Napoles vs Muniz 1
Palomino vs Muniz 1
Palomino vs Green
Stracey vs Napoles
Monzon vs Briscoe 2
Shavers vs Tiger Williams
Lester Ellis vs Yhu
Sanchez vs Laporte
Sanchez vs Cowdell
Tom Collins vs John Moody
Gomez vs Lockridge
Gomez vs Layne
Ali vs Chuvalo 2
Ali vs Lewis
Ali vs Shavers
Shavers vs Mercadoe
Spinks vs Burnett
Spinks vs Mercado

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 19 Apr 2004, 06:08

My top 10 would be (in no order)

Fidel Bassa - Dave McCauley (series)
Boza Edwards - Chacon (series)
Chacon - Limon (series)
Michael Moorer - Bert Cooper
John Mugabi - James Green
Sanchez - Gomez
Sibson - Lucas
Foreman - Lyle
Thad Spencer - Leotis Martin
Bowe Holyfield (Series)

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 19 Apr 2004, 06:38

Carbajal v Gonzalez I
Kelley v Gainer I
Holmes v Witherspoon
Trinidad v Campas

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 19 Apr 2004, 12:03

A lot of great fights mentioned above. Seeing as how we're on the British thread, I would especially pick out Rigby - Ayers. One that hasn't been mentioned (I think) was Lueshing - McCreesh, which I really enjoyed.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 19 Apr 2004, 12:23

British wise, one of the best ive seen is Clinton McKenzie TKO14 Des Morrison.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Apr 2004, 12:27

knockout artist wrote:British wise, one of the best ive seen is Clinton McKenzie TKO14 Des Morrison.

Or Clinton against anyone. Like Bobby Chacon and Danny Lopez, the Croydon warrior was never in a bad fight. He actually fought the above-mentioned Bruce Curry in Las Vegas in 1979, and took him 10 hard rounds. I seem to remember he fought Curry about 10 days after he had been involved in a frightening 15-round war with Colin Power.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Apr 2004, 12:41

silkov wrote: Dokes vs Weaver 2.

I'm sure I read once this was a dull fight with two lazy fighters, did I read wrong then? Is this fight worth picking up?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Apr 2004, 12:46

KOJOE90 wrote:
silkov wrote: Dokes vs Weaver 2.
I'm sure I read once this was a dull fight with two lazy fighters, did I read wrong then? Is this fight worth picking up?

No, it was a gruelling struggle and worth picking up. The fight took a lot out of Dokes (along with Charlie) and within six months, Gerrie Coetzee had flattened him for the title.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Apr 2004, 12:52

bennie wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
silkov wrote: Dokes vs Weaver 2.
I'm sure I read once this was a dull fight with two lazy fighters, did I read wrong then? Is this fight worth picking up?
No, it was a gruelling struggle and worth picking up. The fight took a lot out of Dokes (along with Charlie) and within six months, Gerrie Coetzee had flattened him for the title.

Cheers, I'm positive I read is was a dull fight, that's why I've never bothered to get it, but If you and Silkov say it's a good one then that's good enough for me.

I shall put on my 'to get list'.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 19 Apr 2004, 12:56

KOJOE90 wrote:
bennie wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote: I'm sure I read once this was a dull fight with two lazy fighters, did I read wrong then? Is this fight worth picking up?
No, it was a gruelling struggle and worth picking up. The fight took a lot out of Dokes (along with Charlie) and within six months, Gerrie Coetzee had flattened him for the title.
Cheers, I'm positive I read is was a dull fight, that's why I've never bothered to get it, but If you and Silkov say it's a good one then that's good enough for me.

I shall put on my 'to get list'.

That fight was on one of the greatest boxing shows of all time in my humble opinion: Holmes-Witherspoon, Dokes-Weaver II, Greg Page giving arguably his finest performance in outclassing Renaldo Snipes, Bruce Curry outgaming Leroy Haley for the WBC light-welter title, and more.
What a night!

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 19 Apr 2004, 13:04

bennie wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
bennie wrote: No, it was a gruelling struggle and worth picking up. The fight took a lot out of Dokes (along with Charlie) and within six months, Gerrie Coetzee had flattened him for the title.
Cheers, I'm positive I read is was a dull fight, that's why I've never bothered to get it, but If you and Silkov say it's a good one then that's good enough for me.

I shall put on my 'to get list'.
That fight was on one of the greatest boxing shows of all time in my humble opinion: Holmes-Witherspoon, Dokes-Weaver II, Greg Page giving arguably his finest performance in outclassing Renaldo Snipes, Bruce Curry outgaming Leroy Haley for the WBC light-welter title, and more.
What a night!

WHAT!!!! Better than last Saturdays DK show?

I have a copy of Holmes-Withersponn, good fight, some realiy nice skills shown by a green Timmy, The way he used a wide stance to help him out-jab Holmes at times was great to watch.

Still think there is a good argument to say Witherspoon won that one, or even a draw. Tim should have gotten a rematch at least.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 21 Apr 2004, 05:56

Special offer of free DVDs now ended. I think the comments on the relavant threads are sufficient to show my honesty and the quality of the material.

As of now, the following special DVD compilations are available at £5 each (post paid). Five quid won't even buy a couple of pints these days! So do yourselves a favour and start collecting these classic bouts on DVD.

email me at [email protected] if interested

Marvin Hagler - Volume 1
vs Alan Minter
vs Fully Obel 1
vs Tony Sibson
vs Wilford Scypion

Marvin Hagler - Volume 2
vs Roberto Duran
vs Mustafa Hamsho 2

Marvin Hagler - Volume 3
vs Thomas Hearns
vs John Mugabi

Sugar Ray Leonard - Volume 1
vs Wilfred Benitez
vs Roberto Duran 1

Sugar Ray Leonard - Volume 2
vs Kevin Howard
vs Marvin Hagler

Sugar Ray Leonard - Volume 3
vs Donnie Lalonde
vs Thomas Hearns (2)

Larry Holmes - Volume 1
vs Gerry Cooney
vs Tim Witherspoon

Alex Arguello - Volume 1
vs Ray Mancini
vs Aaron Pryor 1

Lloyd Honeyghan - Volume 1
vs Sylvester Mittee
vs Horace Shufford
vs Don Curry

Lloyd Honeyghan - Volume 2
vs Johnny Bumphus
vs Maurice Blocker

Lloyd Honeyghan - Volume 3
vs Gene Hatcher
vs Jorge Vaca (1)
vs Jorge Vaca (2)
vs Yung Kil Chung

Barry McGuigan - Volume 1
vs Valerio Nati
vs Charm Chiteule
vs Jose Caba

Barry McGuigan - Volume 2
vs Esteban Eguia
vs Felipe Orozco
vs Clyde Ruan

Salvador Sanchez (Volume 1)
vs Danny Lopez 1
vs Ruben Castillo

Salvador Sanchez (Volume 2)
vs Juan LaPorte
vs Wilfredo Gomez

All fights originally taped by me in the 1980's.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 21 Apr 2004, 06:19

bennie wrote:
knockout artist wrote:British wise, one of the best ive seen is Clinton McKenzie TKO14 Des Morrison.
Or Clinton against anyone. Like Bobby Chacon and Danny Lopez, the Croydon warrior was never in a bad fight. He actually fought the above-mentioned Bruce Curry in Las Vegas in 1979, and took him 10 hard rounds. I seem to remember he fought Curry about 10 days after he had been involved in a frightening 15-round war with Colin Power.

Incredible, isnt it? Somebody should sent Hatton and Witter a copy of Clintons record. It might get them to remember that they are meant to be fighters, and fighters are supposed to fight.