NaFianna wrote:Horse wrote:NaFianna wrote:Sure if he's gonna put Irish in the top Brit fighters, he might as well put Mexicans and Americans in there too- you might be able to fill a top 50 or top 100 that way ;)
Ireland is a part of the British Isles, so it is clearly far more British than Mexico or the USA. And why would I need Mexicans, Americans or Irish boxers to make a top 100 list?
metropol wrote:Or if he kept it at top 30 there might not be many brits in it at all.
And no Irish.
Ehhhh... obviously Horses don't go to school, but that's no excuse. IRELAND (the south) is NOT part of the British Isles. There was a rising in 1916 and the south of Ireland became a free-state, by driving the Brits out of the south- now the south is free from British rule. There are 6 of the 9 counties in Ulster under control of a foreign power- Britain. Therefore, all the trouble you may have heard about for the past 40 years, which you surely know about, unless you had no telly in your stable as a young little horsey? So even if approx 1/6 of Ireland is officially under British rule, you could not constitute that the island of IRELAND is part of the British Isles, unless you were a total dummy. Bernard Dunne is from Dublin, which is the capital fo the free-state- SO, my young bucko, he's still not British, as much as you want him to be, you ignorant, bigoted shithead!
To clear things up technically Ireland is part of the geographic description which the British Isles is. However this term was coined before Ireland left the United Kingdom and today you will often hear terms such as 'British and Irish Isles' to move away from the now incorrect term of 'British Isles'
None of the Island of Ireland is part of Britain. Northern Ireland is part of the UK and the Republic of Ireland is its own Republic(as you may tell by the name
) with the title of the nation being just 'Ireland'(as the island is called).
From a modern stand point you would equally be as correct to have a Mexican in a British rankings list as Bernard Dunne. John Duddy is not a British citizen either, unlike Ajose Olusegun is now(another figher to consider for your list) and as such doesn't really belong on a British rankings list.
Just for a bit of historical information for anyone that actually finds it interesting(I'm guessing that's no one), although there was a Rising in Ireland in 1916, fighting continued with Britain and it wasn't till 1921 that Independance was given to 26 of Ireland's 32 counties.
Ireland did actually form it's own Republic in 1919 but only the Russians and Ireland itself recognised it.
Anyway partition was agreed to with a boundary commission set up to decide the lines for Northern Ireland the the Republic of Ireland 'Permanently', Nationalists had believed that the new Irish Free State would receive two more counties as there was Nationalist majorities in Tyrone and Fermanagh I believe, but the boundary was left as per the original lines.
The Irish Free State was changed to Éire in 1937 and was a Republic in all but name(still having a monarch as head of state prevented this), in 1949 Ireland became a full Republic and left the British Commonwealth. Northern Ireland remains part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to this day. Citizens of Northern Ireland are entitled to British citizenship, Irish, citizenship or both.
Britain= England, Scotland, Wales
United Kingdom= England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
I hope that was informative, now to keep this mildly on topic, Wayne Elcock is too high, where are Murray and Rhodes....[rabble, rabble, rabble]
