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Harry Carpenter elludes to a night club brawl a few weeks before the fight, leading to corwd tension and an increased Police presence at the fight, can anyone shed any light on what happened?
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Harry Carpenter elludes to a night club brawl a few weeks before the fight, leading to corwd tension and an increased Police presence at the fight, can anyone shed any light on what happened?
They had a brawl in front of the press. It was no gimmick and racially tinged.
Both wound up on the floor.
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Loved the build up to that one. I really was a big fan of Christie.

After Kaylor won he was on Sportsnight - very subdued. They said he had some kind of post-fight depression...

Shame about Christie. Would have loved to see him in against Sibson, Graham, etc...
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Ezzard wrote:Loved the build up to that one. I really was a big fan of Christie.

After Kaylor won he was on Sportsnight - very subdued. They said he had some kind of post-fight depression...

Shame about Christie. Would have loved to see him in against Sibson, Graham, etc...
Christie would have won but for a pathetic string of wins going into Kaylor - look at them on his record, all quick, easy, meaningless wins. When Kaylor stood up and fought back, Errol was unprepared. The fight ruined him.
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Thanks. I'm looking forward to reading about it in his book.
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Christie had so much talent but bennie is right, he was basically unprepared. He dropped Kaylor twice and then when he got back up he just sort of ran out of ideas.

I read that Errol now does a lot of training for white collar boxing and stuff. I hope he's doing well.
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Christie was very talented, his performance against Sean Mannion was textbook, but he couldn't really take a shot, shades of Amir Khan perhaps.
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Ezzard wrote:Christie had so much talent but bennie is right, he was basically unprepared. He dropped Kaylor twice and then when he got back up he just sort of ran out of ideas.

I read that Errol now does a lot of training for white collar boxing and stuff. I hope he's doing well.
He runs a very good white collar school in London, I believe. He also goes to schools to talk to kids about gun and knife crime.
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Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Ezzard wrote:Christie had so much talent but bennie is right, he was basically unprepared. He dropped Kaylor twice and then when he got back up he just sort of ran out of ideas.

I read that Errol now does a lot of training for white collar boxing and stuff. I hope he's doing well.
He runs a very good white collar school in London, I believe. He also goes to schools to talk to kids about gun and knife crime.
It is bizarre. His brother, Lloyd, had a chin made of iron.
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I heard that Christie had problems with his calfs, is this correct?
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mercman wrote:Errol Christie was a really outstanding amateur and huge things were expected of him when he turned professional. He was very flashy and looked really impressive in his first few fights. Christie was never the same after the Kaylor fight but his chin had already been exposed a year before when Jose Seys, a Belgian light-heavyweight, knocked Christie out in a round.

Christie v Kaylor had a nasty atmosphere around it. There was genuine bad feeling between the two with racial undertones. The animosity boiled over at the press conference and it ended in a brawl, although, unlike the actual contest, I seem to remember that Christie got the better of Kaylor on the cobbles. There was a nasty atmosphere at Wembley come fight night. A really exciting fight though.
Interesting post. How did the scrap on the cobbles pan out and how long did it last?
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Don't recall the build-up being in any way a race thing.

Got any specific quotes?

It was certainly tense and tempers did flair in the build-up. But not in any way with regard to race.

And the fight itself was fought cleanly and what a great fight it was too.
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I distinctly remember the pre-fight fight on the 6 o'clock news here in Oz :o Then they never bothered telling us who won the in the ring fight :roll:

I've seen Kaylor interviewed after the fight and he said he suffered from severe depression after every fight. He was sat there with his wife who did most of the talking, and he looked like a kid that had just had his bike stolen and was sulking
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Have a look at newspaper article on it at the time......

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=vM ... ence&hl=en
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Controversial wrote:Have a look at newspaper article on it at the time......

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=vM ... ence&hl=en

Good read.

Just as I recall it.

Two blokes who really didn't like each other.

Nothing racist.
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Wasn't Kaylor/Christie just a matter of weeks after the race riots in Brixton and Tottenham? :bag:
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Christie had problems with his calves, yeah.

The book is an interesting read but he has a massive, massive chip on his shoulder. If you took his book as gospel the majority of white people were racist and everyone in the arena that night was an NF member.

Obviously he was a black guy living in white Britain in the 70s and 80s, so that's his experience. Things were very different back then.
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