Dan Campbell Retires

[lukerunion]

http://www.usaboxing.org/news/article/6610

Thoughts?

I assume a job posting will find its way to the USA Boxing website soon. Who are ideal candidates and why?

[boxmel]

Retire? Okay, if that's how they want to put it.

Luke, as athlete rep, why don't you make sure that all the requirements for the job are posted - I think they were last time, but I don't remember.

[lukerunion]

Lets wait and see what happens at usaboxing.org, and then see if that's necessary. Patience is a virtue.

[boxmel]

Lets wait and see what happens at usaboxing.org, and then see if that's necessary. Patience is a virtue.

Let me try this again. Luke - as an athlete rep will you please make sure that all the requirements are posted on the USAB web site? Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

[lukerunion]

Mel, I don't have any authority or power to make sure anything happens on the website. I am just a voice as a Rep. I have faith that it will be posted in due time. I don't think its appropriate the day of the announcement of the retirement of the predecessor. You can email USAB just as easily as I could to "make sure" of it. And let me make myself clear - by participating in the forum and trying to get some insight on athlete issues, in no way, am I less of a rep if I don't comply with your every request, or making myself available to take orders from you. Operational issues of USAB and Athlete Issues are dealt with separately and I would think someone of your involvement already knows that.

[boxmel]

by participating in the forum and trying to get some insight on athlete issues, in no way, am I less of a rep if I don't comply with your every request, or making myself available to take orders from you.

Sorry you see things this way. I didn't realize I had such a huge effect on you. I'll work hard on toning down my order-giving and compliance-asking.

I've just about said all I have to on the recent discussions, so I'll let you get carpal tunnel with others.

[lukerunion]

you give yourself too much credit.

[Dennis]

It only took 3 years.

[Salsero]

ALELUHA!!! The changes must continue to happen at the top!!

[squarering]

In the end Dan Campbell was alway good to me and although I think mistakes were made in a lot of areas on many peoples part, I hope the best for Dan Campbell.

[Dennis]

Hal - you are correct that it wasn't all Dan's fault. USAB needs to start to improve amateur boxing in the U.S. right now if they want to have success in 2012. They need to get more people to want to become involved in the sport including boxers, coaches, officials and fans. We need better coaching and officiating. We need more clinics. We need more sponsors.

[Dennis]

What is being done right now? They should be announcing plans for the future and having open discussion groups to get ideas. There are so many ways to get many people involved, but most grassroots people don't think those in Colorado Springs care about what is going on in some smelly gym in some run down building in City X, USA or whether the officials are doing a good job at a local club show.

[lukerunion]

dennis. i hope 2009 unfolds into a "teach a man to fish" story. the national office is limited to what it can do for the entire country to have an impact in every local market, but i think they can help with some sponsorships soon.

[boxmel]

Luke, any ideas on what the sponsorships will do for the LBCs?

[lukerunion]

are you dense? sponsorships will help bring MONEY into lbcs. with the money, they can host more events, buy equipment, pay gym rent, etc. whatever the lbc needs the most, money can buy.

the national office should be able to identify and approach regional sponsors, or local market sponsors that can target local boxing in an LBC. the national office is more qualified to do so and can offer more recognition for the endorsement than a letter of thanks from a lbc president. we are not talking about local restaurants. we are talking about regional divisions of coca-cola or comcast or budweiser , who may have more interest in the placement of ads on a local level, rather than jordan and everlast - who benefited from tv commercials on the nbc special. there are different levels of marketing, different levels of sponsorship. the national office plans to pursue and put the right companies with the right lbcs.

[Dennis]

Luke - play nice!
In the past, sponsorship money rarely, if ever, filtered down to the LBC's. The LBC's were told to find their own money. USA Boxing was always so desparate for money that when they got some they didn't want to share.

If you are correct and the money is disseminated to the LBC's, the LBC's will be able to help gyms with equipment, travel money, show expenses, etc.

You indicate that the national office should be able to get the sponsors, which is what I've been saying for years, but it has been their view that the grassroots people need to do more and raise money so that the National HQ's can increase fees and sanctions to cover their own (HQ) expenses.

[lukerunion]

key words... was, in the past...

Dennis, change is happening. Just curious if you have seen the USAB Webinars live or downloaded from the usab website?

Luke

[Dennis]

key words... was, in the past...

Dennis, change is happening. Just curious if you have seen the USAB Webinars live or downloaded from the usab website?

Luke

I attended (is that the correct term?) the last one. I think it is a good use of technology and should be used more frequently.

BTW - another positive change. Jim Millman has indicated that the Train-The-Trainers Clinic will be held from November 18 - 23, 2008 in Colorado Springs. Hallelujah!!!

[lukerunion]

I hope they consider making use of the new web technology to put the event online. (Go fight live . tv )who broadcast the usa vs puerto rico event may be able to help, also.

[lukerunion]

who am i kidding, hoping and wishing like some other bums on this forum. I'm going to make it a recommendation in the AAC meeting.

[Dennis]

who am i kidding, hoping and wishing like some other bums on this forum. I'm going to make it a recommendation in the AAC meeting.

I've made many recommendations over the years and they have usually fallen on deaf ears. However, maybe they will be more receptive now that they saw what happens when they don't make positive changes.

[boxmel]

I hope they consider making use of the new web technology to put the event online.

Are you referring to TTT? Have you ever attended TTT? It would be extremely difficult to put 3 or 4 days of 8 hours a day coaches and officials sessions, and involvement in practical applications (i.e. refereeing, computer scoring), online.

[Dennis]

I think Luke was and you are correct that it would be very difficult, but some aspects of it could be conducted on-line. I really think on-line classrooms and seminars are the future of USA Boxing. You can get a lot of info out to many people with a much lower cost by conducting them in that fashion. I don't think the whole TTT clinic can be done that way at this time.

[boxmel]

I don't think the whole TTT clinic can be done that way at this time.

Not at this time. Part of the TTT is to use the computer scoring (can't do that at home), practical sessions in refereeing (can't do that at home) and the officials are given the opportunity to take the Level 2 and 3 tests (can't do that at home).

[Dennis]

I don't think the whole TTT clinic can be done that way at this time.

Not at this time. Part of the TTT is to use the computer scoring (can't do that at home), practical sessions in refereeing (can't do that at home) and the officials are given the opportunity to take the Level 2 and 3 tests (can't do that at home).

Why not take the tests at home? We know that officials would never, ever cheat! Even ones from California.