Mike McCallum vs.....

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Mike McCallum vs.....

Post by Grimm »

Not sure if this has been made a thread before the search feature isn't working, but how would McCallum (prime) fare against the following fighters in 15 round fights?

Thomas Hearns

Roberto Duran

Marvin Hagler

Ray Leonard

Curious to see opinions.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

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I could see MM wearing Hearns down and KO'ing him in the long run maybe around 12th or 13th round.

Vs. Duran Would be a different story styles make fights and even though Duran is fighting at a much higher weight I believe he was slick and rugged enough to outpoint McCallum.

Hagler I believe would be just too big for MM and would rough him up though I don't believe Hagler would knock him out I think Hagler would win by decision.

The Leonard fight I could see going either way but I believe McCallum could tire Leonard out and win a tough 15 round UD.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

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1) Versus Tommy Hearns - Hearns gets on his bike & outpoints McCallum. It's a tough one this as you could never tell what Tommy was going to do, but I'd like to think that he wouldn't be stupid enough to try & KO the titanium chinned McCallum ( :lol: :lol: , Hagler not withstanding). If Tommy engages his brains & boxes, he wins easily on points, if he doesn't, he gets sparked by McCallum mid rounds.

2) Versus Duran - If it's at 154, McCallum wins on points. Duran isn't going to bully & rough-house McCallum.

3) Versus Hagler - Hagler would outwork McCallum IMO & wins a close & hardfought battle on points.

4) Versus Leonard - I see an SRL victory on points. It would be a good tactical fight, but I think SRL would edge it with superior footwork & handpseed. It won't be easy, as it would be in McCallum's territory (light middle), but I think Leonard would have had just a little too much class.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

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McCallum was really in the frame around 1987 onwards...

Had he got these fights then he'd have won them all IMO.

On a prime for prime basis then I think he wins them all except Hagler. He'd have to come from behind to beat Hearns but over 15 he can do it. He'd have to hurt Leonard early on in some way... For me McCallum-Leonard is the hardest one to pick.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

Post by bennie »

I'm not sure Mike would beat any of them. McCallum was very, very good but he he wasn't stellar, in my opinion, and the loss to Kalambay in 1988 is pretty glaring. Even the rematch, which Mike won, was a split. Ultimately, his best wins are over an inexperienced Julian Jackson, a fading Don Curry, the awkward but perenially disappointing Bomber Graham (another split), the face-first Jeff Harding and the strong but one-dimensional Steve Collins. Compare that to the resumes of the other guys. OK, you could say Mike was avoided but he was only avoided because he brought no money to the table. Like I say, he just wasn't stellar.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

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I agree, he wasn't quite up there with these guys, but still an outstanding fighter.

As for the head to head matchups, it might matter what weight class the fights are at. I take it that we are saying prime vs prime. If we are talking about a specific year, then it depends on which specific year.

McCallum vs Hearns- Both were at their best at 154. (In fact they were probably the best fighters ever at this weight class.) at 154, if Hearns fought a smart fight, he would be able to outbox him. McCallum would be one of the few fighters who could take Hearns best shots at this weight. If Hearns tried to go toe to toe, McCallum would probably be able to shake off Hearns best shots and stop Hearns.
At 160, McCallum wasn't quite as good, but he didn't drop off as dramatically as Hearns. McCallum wins this almost for sure.

McCallum vs Duran-Tough fight, but hard to imagine McCallum losing at 154 or 160.
MCallum vs Hagler -At 160, Hagler wins tough but clear decision. (something like 10 rounds to 5)

McCallum vs Leonard -Leonard outboxes him. Easier at 154 than 160.

If McCallum had to get down to 147, he would lose to Hearns,Duran, and Leonard.
If Hagler had to get down to 154, McCallum would beat him. Of course those fights would never happen.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

Post by bennie »

Yes, I come across as harsh. He was, as you say, an outstanding fighter. I loved watching Mike dismantle his opponents.
It is just, the other fighters (Duran and co.) are legends.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

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I'd favor McCallum over Duran, but I'm not sure about the rest.

In general, I'm not quite sure how to rate McCallum. He was a good, accomplished fighter in every weight class he was in, but I'm not sure he was truly great in any of them. Two of his titles were won in vacant title fights, and he never really cleaned out or unified in any division he was in. A fight with any of the four on this list would've shown what he was truly made of.
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Re: Mike McCallum vs.....

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He beats Duran and Hearns at 154 . . .loses to a (peak) Hagler and (pre 1st retirement) Leonard

Circa 1987 he'd have beaten them all.
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