WHAT IF ?

[squarering]

What if we had a list of all the amateur coaches in the country and had to pick the top 5 in 6 different area. I think you would have a pretty good consensus of coaches that should be considered for International trips.

Say you gave a 1-5 rating 1 being low and 5 being the best

The categories could include
Technical boxing knowledge (skills)
Connecting with athletes emotionally
Knowledge of international rules
Knowledge of the point system
Knowledge of conditioning and diet
Organizational skills

Give a coach ratings in each area and see who comes up. Even if guys voted for themselves, the number two or three guy would pop up a few times. Any other categories you can think of
. General comments

[boxmel]

I would add knowledge of rules, period. Since the rules in the U.S. are very different in many respects, it think that our coaches should learn our rules first. And learn them well!

[scottmallon]

I would add knowledge of rules, period. Since the rules in the U.S. are very different in many respects, it think that our coaches should learn our rules first. And learn them well!

Why are the rules different in the first place? Shouldn't all the rules be the same?

[Athorn4941]

I think it is different because of legal issues and insurance issues. Even though you have to sign the paper work saying you know all the risks involved with the sport.

I don't know for sure though.

[lukerunion]

I like it. I can see this idea tied into a feature of a member database of athletes/nonathletes. This "database", when developed, one day... is going to change usab for the better. I think it will make a lot of work easier for volunteers and staff members, too.

With this data, and a good collection procedure/limits, we'd have sound information to supplement input at the top.

Luke

[boxmel]

The U.S. rule book is much bigger than AIBA's, mostly stemming from legal and insurance issues. We cover a lot of issues in ours to minimize problems with lawyers, i.e., right to participate, discrimination, certification of coaches and officials, and a whole host of other stuff. Our basis are the rules set down by AIBA - but we can also implement rules that are more restrictive.

[JMac]

I would add knowledge of rules, period. Since the rules in the U.S. are very different in many respects, it think that our coaches should learn our rules first. And learn them well!

There is very little difference between technical rules of AIBA and USAB.

[boxmel]

There is very little difference between technical rules of AIBA and USAB.

I thought I said this in my 5:48 a.m. post? But thanks for the clarification. 8)

[squarering]

So anyway I was thinking of the sort of poll where can vote for coaches in a specific category.

[lukerunion]

Because paper would be a mess, does anyone know of any online services that offer polling data - user generated? This is something we could implement as a test trial - possibly free - right now.

My only concern is fluffing the ballot. We need some program oversight where a registration number is required to limit the number of times an athlete can rate each individual coach which requires tapping the USAB computers. Additionally, we need anonymity. This is something a grad student software engineer could probably write in a week... any guesses on the complexity here from someone more familiar with programming than yours truly?

[squarering]

Luke I believe that splitting the poll so that there is one by athletes and one by coaches would give much more accurate information

[Dennis]

It would be tough for me to vote. I don't know how many of the coaches relate to their athletes, except during competition. Unless you worked in a camp with them and then during some competition, it would be tough to judge most coaches on these criteria.

[skinnyman]

I don't know if voting is the way to go. Perhaps many will then be politicking for votes instead of coaching. Then if the voting is done online that will cause many more problems like people having family members and friends vote who aren't even associated with USA Boxing.

[Dennis]

There would have to be some system to verify that only registered athletes and registered non-athletes were voting and only voting once.

[squarering]

Dennis , You are right . It can be done and is done all the time. You have to key in you athleteor Non-athlete # and you get one time to vote, Oh sure there will be politicking and the like, but I still believe it would help be a very good indicator of some good choices to start looking at.

[Dennis]

So get it started Hal.

[squarering]

I get right on it tonight. I am a finominal cumputer teknishon and can have serch enjin humming on all 18.6 cylinders.