And excellent raw local poverty stricken talent, the type of talent that had been specically bred for physical labour for centuries.Scrap wrote:If manny Steward is the Best trainer in the World, no wonder the Games Dying. He is connected, he had good trainers at the Kronks who did the work, He was the Mouthpeice.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition
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P N, that could have something to do with it
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DG.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:And excellent raw local poverty stricken talent, the type of talent that had been specically bred for physical labour for centuries.Scrap wrote:If manny Steward is the Best trainer in the World, no wonder the Games Dying. He is connected, he had good trainers at the Kronks who did the work, He was the Mouthpeice.
Sad - but true.
You could also add beaten - murdered and raped.
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Tell you what, the Gym is the safest place in the area ![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
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strangely enough you dont mention the first jab of the fight that landed square on the jaw of khan and dipped his legs....that means khan is chinny, period !!Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Its so lazy, so "boxrec forum" to post "Khan has no chin" and leave it at that
The problem is that he has no defense, and as a result cant see big wide shots coming in and gets hit by big punches that he should be slipping.
To call Khan "chinny" after getting decked by the left hook he took is laughable
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jamesmcdonnell
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Never got wobbled by a non-puncher like Limond though, or annihilated in less than a minute. Cotto was tagged by Torres, Mosley and Corley at 140-147, took a pounding before caving in against Margarito, a huge welter, and survived a few scary moments against Zab, who if nothing else is a dynamite puncher.johnswan1 wrote:Cotto. Some just don't have the legs if they're fighting at too low a weight.Wales wrote:Wladamirs is also terribly brittle at the top level, but he has a good 6-7 inches in height on most opponents (usually).
Can anyone think of a fighter who looked to have a poor chin that "developed" to take shots better?
Khan would have been rendered unconscious had he faced anyone of that Calibre.
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rhino222 wrote:strangely enough you dont mention the first jab of the fight that landed square on the jaw of khan and dipped his legs....that means khan is chinny, period !!Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Its so lazy, so "boxrec forum" to post "Khan has no chin" and leave it at that
The problem is that he has no defense, and as a result cant see big wide shots coming in and gets hit by big punches that he should be slipping.
To call Khan "chinny" after getting decked by the left hook he took is laughable
uh huh, dipped his legs..... and?
1st time you've ever seen that, is it?
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Given that murdering a slave would lose an asset comparatively worth a new BMW 5series I would say slaves murdered would be less than expected. Rape may have been prevailant, although given women's nature to target the most powerful/richest men it may well be exagerated. Torture was definately severeDG. wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:And excellent raw local poverty stricken talent, the type of talent that had been specically bred for physical labour for centuries.Scrap wrote:If manny Steward is the Best trainer in the World, no wonder the Games Dying. He is connected, he had good trainers at the Kronks who did the work, He was the Mouthpeice.
Sad - but true.
You could also add beaten - murdered and raped.
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Many slaves died trying to escape and during the punishment given out not to mention being worked to death.
The snivelling slave masters raped their way through the women (no doubt some men - being gay is not a modern condition) and diluted the race - look around you - many different shades of black - 99% due to the infiltration of 'the man'.
As for Boxing - the hungry and the needy make the best fighters.
Manny Steward is so overrated!
The snivelling slave masters raped their way through the women (no doubt some men - being gay is not a modern condition) and diluted the race - look around you - many different shades of black - 99% due to the infiltration of 'the man'.
As for Boxing - the hungry and the needy make the best fighters.
Manny Steward is so overrated!
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DG. wrote:Many slaves died trying to escape and during the punishment given out not to mention being worked to death.
The snivelling slave masters raped their way through the women (no doubt some men - being gay is not a modern condition) and diluted the race - look around you - many different shades of black - 99% due to the infiltration of 'the man'.
As for Boxing - the hungry and the needy make the best fighters.
Manny Steward is so overrated!
Still tryng too work out what your on about
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coneye wrote:DG. wrote:Many slaves died trying to escape and during the punishment given out not to mention being worked to death.
The snivelling slave masters raped their way through the women (no doubt some men - being gay is not a modern condition) and diluted the race - look around you - many different shades of black - 99% due to the infiltration of 'the man'.
As for Boxing - the hungry and the needy make the best fighters.
Manny Steward is so overrated!
Still tryng too work out what your on about
It is deep!
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Really? I thought Freddy Mercury was the worlds first gay man?DG. wrote:The snivelling slave masters raped their way through the women (no doubt some men - being gay is not a modern condition) and diluted the race - look around you - many different shades of black - 99% due to the infiltration of 'the man'.
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Talking about that, remember Liberace suing the Mirror for calling Him. Then later Dieing of Aids, the Mirror never got there Money back did they ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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johnswan1 wrote:Really? I thought Freddy Mercury was the worlds first gay man?DG. wrote:The snivelling slave masters raped their way through the women (no doubt some men - being gay is not a modern condition) and diluted the race - look around you - many different shades of black - 99% due to the infiltration of 'the man'.
You make a very valid point!
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Scrap wrote:Talking about that, remember Liberace suing the Mirror for calling Him. Then later Dieing of Aids, the Mirror never got there Money back did they
But dying of aids does not mean you are gay - but I see your point!.
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They never said he was gay. What they said was that he was "...the summit of sex--the pinnacle of masculine, feminine, and neuter. Everything that he, she, and it can ever want... a deadly, winking, sniggering, snuggling, chromium-plated, scent-impregnated, luminous, quivering, giggling, fruit-flavoured, mincing, ice-covered heap of mother love," a description which did everything it could to imply he was homosexual without saying so.Scrap wrote:Talking about that, remember Liberace suing the Mirror for calling Him. Then later Dieing of Aids, the Mirror never got there Money back did they
Liberace sued the newspaper for libel, testifying in a London court that he was not a homosexual, and had never taken part in homosexual acts. He won the suit on the basis of the term "fruit-flavoured", which was held to impute homosexuality. The £8,000 ($22,400) damages he received from The Daily Mirror led Liberace to alter his catchphrase to "I cried all the way to the bank!"
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johnswan1 wrote:Scrap wrote:
They never said he was gay. What they said was that he was "...the summit of sex--the pinnacle of masculine, feminine, and neuter. Everything that he, she, and it can ever want... a deadly, winking, sniggering, snuggling, chromium-plated, scent-impregnated, luminous, quivering, giggling, fruit-flavoured, mincing, ice-covered heap of mother love," a description which did everything it could to imply he was homosexual without saying so.
I have heard the same phrase used to describe HitmanHatton1.
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Roger Mayweather certainly had a chin problem earlier in his career, getting flattened 2 or 3 times when fighting down at 130/135 - although in world class company - but his ability to take a shot improved massively when he moved up to lightwelter. Chavez wacked him in 2 rounds at Jr light, then really struggled against him when they met a few years later at 140.Wales wrote: Can anyone think of a fighter who looked to have a poor chin that "developed" to take shots better?
If not a potential trainer for Khan, then definitely an inspiration.
Haven't they got rid on the Cuban trainer yet?
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John, Thanks for clearing that up, its been on my mind the last 40 odd years. ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)