Haye v Chapman.....clash of the heavyweight titans

[Chambers2]

PS since when did you have to petition the WBO to rank a hopeless and underserving fighter?

You just used to have to send them an e-mail, but if you wanted a rule changing it had to be by letter

[Happy Slapper]

He should fight Skelton but that'll never happen. Too much risk for too little reward.

I think Skelton would KO Haye.

Who the hell is JD Chapman? But weren't we saying that about Breidis Prescott a couple of weeks ago?!

[DG.]

I think its a piss take for Haye to declare himself a promoter then behave like this.......and i for one hope that nobody is stupid enough to buy a ticket for the O2 show.

Seriously disapointed.

Fwanks worried!

[Old bones Ian]

Hayes word on the JD Chapman fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKr8xvvl3BU

[twenty six]

Another one creeps from under a stone.
BC - aka Wazza's piss boy.
Take a closer look at Hertfordshire before lashing out.
The old trick, when you want to deflect attention, throw shit at others.
Do you seriously think anyone with half a brain would fall for it ?

[DG.]

Another one creeps from under a stone.
BC - aka Wazza's piss boy.
Take a closer look at Hertfordshire before lashing out.
The old trick, when you want to deflect attention, throw shit at others.
Do you seriously think anyone with half a brain would fall for it ?

Boxingchat knows that Spunk Waxworks (the trading name of Spots Networks) is going down the pan!


The landscape is changing - Sports Networks have no stars left and still make shit match ups.

[Eraserhead]

When David Haye announced that he was to be promoting himself, at heavyweight, with a multi-fight deal with Setanta and the O2, he stated (as did Setanta) that he would be fighting "quality heavyweights" from the beginning of the deal.I, aswell as many other boxing fans that I have spoke to, felt genuinely excited by Hayes claims of cleaning up the heavyweight division and beating the best put there in the process.

So.........who is JD Chapman? An unbeaten (who has beaten nobody) heavyweight who I for one have never heard of. All the promises of big names and big promotions, both from promoter/fighter and broadcaster, have been found seriously short.Chapmans last win was against the world renowned Rich Boruff (KO 2) in the Shaikh Rashid Hall, Dubai. This is obviously why Hayemaker have gone for this option. Proven quality track record.

He is ranked highly (WBO 7, WBA 9, WBC 13), but with the current state of the heavyweight division, surely Haye has to be fighting one of the bigger names IF he is to be taken seriously as a heavyweight fighter (and promoter), and secondly if he wants to fill the O2 (did anyone else hear that pin drop?). Boxrec have this guy ranked at 114.........and the IBO have him at 92. Maybe they have missed something the governing bodies have noticed in this guy.

I think its a piss take for Haye to declare himself a promoter then behave like this.......and i for one hope that nobody is stupid enough to buy a ticket for the O2 show.

Seriously disapointed.

Didn't take long for Wazza's favourite shoe-shiner to wipe his tears and get back up from his knees following the Khan disaster. How's the pay at McDonalds, BC? It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people.

Seriously, though, how can you expect anyone to listen to your views when you only ever run Wazza's rivals down? Who gives a shit what you think?

[Achybreaky]

When David Haye announced that he was to be promoting himself, at heavyweight, with a multi-fight deal with Setanta and the O2, he stated (as did Setanta) that he would be fighting "quality heavyweights" from the beginning of the deal.I, aswell as many other boxing fans that I have spoke to, felt genuinely excited by Hayes claims of cleaning up the heavyweight division and beating the best put there in the process.

So.........who is JD Chapman? An unbeaten (who has beaten nobody) heavyweight who I for one have never heard of. All the promises of big names and big promotions, both from promoter/fighter and broadcaster, have been found seriously short.Chapmans last win was against the world renowned Rich Boruff (KO 2) in the Shaikh Rashid Hall, Dubai. This is obviously why Hayemaker have gone for this option. Proven quality track record.

He is ranked highly (WBO 7, WBA 9, WBC 13), but with the current state of the heavyweight division, surely Haye has to be fighting one of the bigger names IF he is to be taken seriously as a heavyweight fighter (and promoter), and secondly if he wants to fill the O2 (did anyone else hear that pin drop?). Boxrec have this guy ranked at 114.........and the IBO have him at 92. Maybe they have missed something the governing bodies have noticed in this guy.

I think its a piss take for Haye to declare himself a promoter then behave like this.......and i for one hope that nobody is stupid enough to buy a ticket for the O2 show.

Seriously disapointed.

Didn't take long for Wazza's favourite shoe-shiner to wipe his tears and get back up from his knees following the Khan disaster. How's the pay at McDonalds, BC? It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people.

Seriously, though, how can you expect anyone to listen to your views when you only ever run Wazza's rivals down? Who gives a shit what you think?

Two words for boxing chat............................................BOBBY GUNN!

[Max Molyneux]

Are you guys making excuses for Haye even thinking about JD Chapman? If Haye was fighting for Frank you wouldn't then.

Boxing chat does overly defend SPN actions but he's still right about Haye.

Plus for Haye's shit talking there's no backing up.

[DG.]

Are you guys making
excuses for Haye even thinking about JD Chapman? If Haye was fighting for Frank you wouldn't then.

Boxing chat does overly defend SPN actions but he's still right about Haye.

Plus for Haye's shit talking there's no backing up.

There is now a rumour it's RAY MERCER!

The big difference is - Fwank would serve up shit routinely - see Hatton and Khan and most Calzaghe fights - seems Haye can not get the fighters he wants.

Who knows? - I don't!

[Max Molyneux]

Ray Mercer was stopped by Shannon Briggs, Is 47 and lost to Kimbo Slice In MMA

FW has done It rountine but makes no difference and would make smug and Haye hypocritical If they did the same routine.

[DG.]

Ray Mercer was stopped by Shannon Briggs, Is 47 and lost to Kimbo Slice In MMA

FW has done It rountine but makes no difference and would make smug and Haye hypocritical If they did the same routine.

I agree, but if no on wants to fight- what can you do?

[TerribleTerry]

Now it could be....wait for it.....Ray Mercer. Not ranked in top 10? No worries, they're getting a petition sorted for the WBO to rank him! Unreal

This was Merciless Ray over 3 years ago - what heart and desire!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXkcYul1LRo

[DavidPayne]

BoxingChat may not be representing the best track record on this topic but what he says is unilaterally correct.

If JD Chapman is the opponent, technically, he matches Haye's much spouted criteria. But he isn't, nor never will be, the level we were told to expect.

He may be on the wane but the likes of Hasim Rahman or Golota would have been the level I anticipated. Now I appreciate the obstacles, pitfalls and financial reality checks Mr Haye may have faced, but if you shout loud, you draw attention.

He must have anticipated that.

Here's an inane statistical list for you. If you give a champion 30 points for being champ, interim, emeretius and injured champions get 20 points. No 1 ranked contender gets 15 points down to 1 point for #15.

If you take the four sanctioning bodies and collate the cumulative totals for their rankings you get the following list. I appreciate some of these bodies dont' rank other bodies' fighters but with that said, it does make a little more sense of the rankings.

1 Wladimir 60 WBO-IBF
2 Dimitrenko 52
3 Arreola 38
4 Chagaev 30 WBA
5 Peter 30 WBC
6 Meehan 29
7 Povetkin 29
8 Golota 26
9 Haye 24
10 Virchis 21
11 Maskaev 20
12 Vitaly 20 WBC Emeretius
13 Valuev 20 WBA Interim
14 Chapman 19
15 Walker 19
16 Toney 14
17 Ruiz 14
18 Gomez 14
19 Samil Sam 13
20 Rahman 12
21 Bidenko 12
22 Ibragimov 11
23 Barrett 10
24 Johnson 10
25 Cameron 9
26 Chambers 8
27 Drummond 8
28 Liakhovich 8
29 Boytsov 7
30 Thompson 6
31 Minto 6
32 Holmes 6
33 Williamson 3
34 Bakhtov 2
35 Mazikin 1

[TerribleTerry]

Here's an inane statistical list for you. If you give a champion 30 points for being champ, interim, emeretius and injured champions get 20 points. No 1 ranked contender gets 15 points down to 1 point for #15.

If you take the four sanctioning bodies and collate the cumulative totals for their rankings you get the following list.

Slow day at work David

[DavidPayne]

And puts all the established guys well down like Ruiz, Toney, Rahman.

TT, it was.

[funso banjo baby]

surely anyone from 23 up is decent

apart from walker and chapman obviously

[Asterix]

BoxingChat may not be representing the best track record on this topic but what he says is unilaterally correct.

If JD Chapman is the opponent, technically, he matches Haye's much spouted criteria. But he isn't, nor never will be, the level we were told to expect.

He may be on the wane but the likes of Hasim Rahman or Golota would have been the level I anticipated. Now I appreciate the obstacles, pitfalls and financial reality checks Mr Haye may have faced, but if you shout loud, you draw attention.

He must have anticipated that.

Here's an inane statistical list for you. If you give a champion 30 points for being champ, interim, emeretius and injured champions get 20 points. No 1 ranked contender gets 15 points down to 1 point for #15.

If you take the four sanctioning bodies and collate the cumulative totals for their rankings you get the following list. I appreciate some of these bodies dont' rank other bodies' fighters but with that said, it does make a little more sense of the rankings.

1 Wladimir 60 WBO-IBF
2 Dimitrenko 52
3 Arreola 38
4 Chagaev 30 WBA
5 Peter 30 WBC
6 Meehan 29
7 Povetkin 29
8 Golota 26
9 Haye 24
10 Virchis 21
11 Maskaev 20
12 Vitaly 20 WBC Emeretius
13 Valuev 20 WBA Interim
14 Chapman 19
15 Walker 19
16 Toney 14
17 Ruiz 14
18 Gomez 14
19 Samil Sam 13
20 Rahman 12
21 Bidenko 12
22 Ibragimov 11
23 Barrett 10
24 Johnson 10
25 Cameron 9
26 Chambers 8
27 Drummond 8
28 Liakhovich 8
29 Boytsov 7
30 Thompson 6
31 Minto 6
32 Holmes 6
33 Williamson 3
34 Bakhtov 2
35 Mazikin 1

To me that just shows why Chapman would be ideal, if Maskaev and Golota are out of the question.

[Tykemania]

Actually a name that stands out there was Liyakovich - not huge, decent technique, good record...

[DavidPayne]

Southpaw isn't he?

[johnswan1]

I know it wouldn't happen but I'd love to see him in with Valeuv. They could play on the whole "David & Goliath" story and it would be a very winnable fight. Knocking out the giant as a spectacle would really send out a message that I'm sure the US cable companies would be very happy to buy into.

[jamesmcdonnell]

When David Haye announced that he was to be promoting himself, at heavyweight, with a multi-fight deal with Setanta and the O2, he stated (as did Setanta) that he would be fighting "quality heavyweights" from the beginning of the deal.I, aswell as many other boxing fans that I have spoke to, felt genuinely excited by Hayes claims of cleaning up the heavyweight division and beating the best put there in the process.

So.........who is JD Chapman? An unbeaten (who has beaten nobody) heavyweight who I for one have never heard of. All the promises of big names and big promotions, both from promoter/fighter and broadcaster, have been found seriously short.Chapmans last win was against the world renowned Rich Boruff (KO 2) in the Shaikh Rashid Hall, Dubai. This is obviously why Hayemaker have gone for this option. Proven quality track record.

He is ranked highly (WBO 7, WBA 9, WBC 13), but with the current state of the heavyweight division, surely Haye has to be fighting one of the bigger names IF he is to be taken seriously as a heavyweight fighter (and promoter), and secondly if he wants to fill the O2 (did anyone else hear that pin drop?). Boxrec have this guy ranked at 114.........and the IBO have him at 92. Maybe they have missed something the governing bodies have noticed in this guy.

I think its a piss take for Haye to declare himself a promoter then behave like this.......and i for one hope that nobody is stupid enough to buy a ticket for the O2 show.

Seriously disapointed.

Didn't take long for Wazza's favourite shoe-shiner to wipe his tears and get back up from his knees following the Khan disaster. How's the pay at McDonalds, BC? It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people.

Seriously, though, how can you expect anyone to listen to your views when you only ever run Wazza's rivals down? Who gives a shit what you think?

Two words for boxing chat............................................BOBBY GUNN!

Quite right, talk about poacher turned gamekeeper.

However, two wrongs don't make a right

[Chambers2]

I know it wouldn't happen but I'd love to see him in with Valeuv. They could play on the whole "David & Goliath" story and it would be a very winnable fight. Knocking out the giant as a spectacle would really send out a message that I'm sure the US cable companies would be very happy to buy into.

I'd love to see that fight as well (TTTTTTIIIIIMMMMMMBBBBBBEEEEEERRRRR!!!!). Hayes talked about it quite abit in the past, so that'll probably be his first defences after Wlads 1 round whooping.

[TerribleTerry]

Actually a name that stands out there was Liyakovich - not huge, decent technique, good record...

The White Wolf phoned his last one in against Valuev: took a steady beating and looked totally disinterested. I really thought he showed promise at one time.

That said, he wouldnt give Haye the KO he will be looking for to kickstart his assault on the big boys.

[rhino222]

kali meehan would be a decent opponent too, and he has fought in this country before, so he knows how good the english canvas feels..