Exoddus wrote:So Rubio got sacked because he suggested that Khan should fight a real lightweight with a punch. If only he picked a featherweight. He would still be there.
I thought if you wanted to become a world champion you need to fight boxers in your weight class. Rubio just wanted to see what Khan could do to a limited lightweight who could punch. The answer was absolutely nothing.
It'll be back to feathers/superfeathers for the next 2 years! Then he'll get KO'd again when he fights another legit lightweight.
khan sacked rubio?
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Its all crap , don't care who they get , boxing is boxing and what you need in boxing is not practice its PERFECT PRACTICE up to now he has not been getting it and regardless who they go with he needs to be ther 2-4 times a week ensuring that Khan has PERFECT PRACTICE at everything he is shown , he needs a full time trainer not a fly in corner man .
Khan needs to be took back stripped down and brought back to BASICS basic footwork basic jabs and straight punches basic hook and rips to the body. PERFECT SUPERVISED PRACTICE.
i ALSO THINK THE END OFF EACH SESION SHOULD BE CLOSE TOE TO TOE PUNCHING learning to punch short .
Khan is already a good outside fighter but he cannot fight inside he needs to be taught how to sit on a chest and punch short, That way when he is in close he wins the inside work or at the least he learns to cover up and not get hit .
But regardles off anything he don't need a fly in cornerman he needs a FULLTIME BOXING TRAINER
Khan needs to be took back stripped down and brought back to BASICS basic footwork basic jabs and straight punches basic hook and rips to the body. PERFECT SUPERVISED PRACTICE.
i ALSO THINK THE END OFF EACH SESION SHOULD BE CLOSE TOE TO TOE PUNCHING learning to punch short .
Khan is already a good outside fighter but he cannot fight inside he needs to be taught how to sit on a chest and punch short, That way when he is in close he wins the inside work or at the least he learns to cover up and not get hit .
But regardles off anything he don't need a fly in cornerman he needs a FULLTIME BOXING TRAINER
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whats the point of keep changing trainers? he could have the best trainer in the world but if he ignores their advice and everything they've been working on in the gym as soon as he steps into the ring its pointless.
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Khan is a total twat
It doesnt matter if they resurect Cus D'mato, Khan has no chin. Seriously, no trainer in the world can help Khan take a punch, the guy is a total flop in my eyes, paper mache kid
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No need to go insulting him dude.Top Dog wrote:Khan is a total twatIt doesnt matter if they resurect Cus D'mato, Khan has no chin. Seriously, no trainer in the world can help Khan take a punch, the guy is a total flop in my eyes, paper mache kid
And a total flop? He is a millionaire... pretty sure quite a big marigne compared to your account.
IMO, Khan still has the potential to be World Champ one day. He may not have the best of chins, but he has other utilities such as speed and combos to make it there. He really needs to start working on defense.
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If he continues to ignore his trainer's instructions then this will happen to him every time he faces a decent puncher.........


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WildWaylon
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You can have a great defense but at the top level the elite fighters will still find a way through. Then to stay with them you need a decent chin which Khan hasnt got. Khan will not get past Euro level. Pacman would slaughter him, even if he does improve his defense.observer1 wrote:No need to go insulting him dude.Top Dog wrote:Khan is a total twatIt doesnt matter if they resurect Cus D'mato, Khan has no chin. Seriously, no trainer in the world can help Khan take a punch, the guy is a total flop in my eyes, paper mache kid
And a total flop? He is a millionaire... pretty sure quite a big marigne compared to your account.
IMO, Khan still has the potential to be World Champ one day. He may not have the best of chins, but he has other utilities such as speed and combos to make it there. He really needs to start working on defense.
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That clip should be shown in gyms around the world on how Not too throw a jab ,,, and how you should never drop the right when you throw a jab .
BASIC BOXING SKILLS REALLY , it should off been picked up and sorted years ago.
BASIC BOXING SKILLS REALLY , it should off been picked up and sorted years ago.
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WildWaylon
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Yep, bad habits become a way of life.coneye wrote:That clip should be shown in gyms around the world on how Not too throw a jab ,,, and how you should never drop the right when you throw a jab .
BASIC BOXING SKILLS REALLY , it should off been picked up and sorted years ago.
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No need to go insulting him dude.
And a total flop? He is a millionaire... pretty sure quite a big marigne compared to your account.
IMO, Khan still has the potential to be World Champ one day. He may not have the best of chins, but he has other utilities such as speed and combos to make it there. He really needs to start working on defense
Oh, check her, put your claws away, I can hate your boyfriend if I like
The guys a paper mached chinned slavering twat, glad he got fucked big time, laughed my arse off
If you dont like it, guess what? I dont give a flying fornicate
He's only a millionaire cause airheads like you go and pay, thinking he's some kind of second coming of Ali FFS, PITY HE TURNED OUT TO BE SHIT , away and drink your horlicks now
And a total flop? He is a millionaire... pretty sure quite a big marigne compared to your account.
IMO, Khan still has the potential to be World Champ one day. He may not have the best of chins, but he has other utilities such as speed and combos to make it there. He really needs to start working on defense
Oh, check her, put your claws away, I can hate your boyfriend if I like
The guys a paper mached chinned slavering twat, glad he got fucked big time, laughed my arse off
He's only a millionaire cause airheads like you go and pay, thinking he's some kind of second coming of Ali FFS, PITY HE TURNED OUT TO BE SHIT , away and drink your horlicks now
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DavidPayne
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I'd suspect this is a return of some control for FW.
He seems to have had precious little over Khan's decisions and direction for the past 12 months.
He seems to have had precious little over Khan's decisions and direction for the past 12 months.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Yes you may be right Dave. It was Warren who appointed Oliver Harrison, and it seemed Khan's family wanted Rubio. Now Khan has been spanked - he's falling back into line no doubt.
Warren had warned Khan he needed to cool his jets with all his talk about world titles, and well, it's been confirmed in spades.
Warren had warned Khan he needed to cool his jets with all his talk about world titles, and well, it's been confirmed in spades.
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Wonder if this means he'll be on the DLH v Pacman undercard in the US then?
Roach will be a bit busy with Manny, otherwise.
Roach will be a bit busy with Manny, otherwise.
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Couldn't have put it better myself. I agree with it all.coneye wrote:Its all crap , don't care who they get , boxing is boxing and what you need in boxing is not practice its PERFECT PRACTICE up to now he has not been getting it and regardless who they go with he needs to be ther 2-4 times a week ensuring that Khan has PERFECT PRACTICE at everything he is shown , he needs a full time trainer not a fly in corner man .
Khan needs to be took back stripped down and brought back to BASICS basic footwork basic jabs and straight punches basic hook and rips to the body. PERFECT SUPERVISED PRACTICE.
i ALSO THINK THE END OFF EACH SESION SHOULD BE CLOSE TOE TO TOE PUNCHING learning to punch short .
Khan is already a good outside fighter but he cannot fight inside he needs to be taught how to sit on a chest and punch short, That way when he is in close he wins the inside work or at the least he learns to cover up and not get hit .
But regardles off anything he don't need a fly in cornerman he needs a FULLTIME BOXING TRAINER
Khan splits with Rubio
http://www.allegedly.tv/drill/News/Ar ... rubio.htmlAmir Khan has split with trainer Jorge Rubio, promoter allegedly has confirmed.
Rubio was in Khan's corner for just one fight, his 54-second loss to Breidis Prescott at the MEN Arena earlier this month.
The Cuban had been brought in after Khan split with Oliver Harrison in April.
Following the loss to Prescott, it emerged that Rubio had recommended the hard-hitting Colombian as an opponent.
Khan will now begin the search for a new trainer ahead of his return to the ring on December 6.
Veteran US cornerman Freddie Roach emerged over the weekend as an early front runner.
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It's amazing what money can do. If Khan wasn't a big money spinner no one like Roach would want to train him because he's an overrated amateur.
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There's a great quote from Calzaghe today in the Guardian.
He questioned the decision to put Khan in with some "crazy hungry Colombian who'd probably kill you for 10 grand."
Nice one Joe.
He questioned the decision to put Khan in with some "crazy hungry Colombian who'd probably kill you for 10 grand."
Nice one Joe.
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That's what I don't understand. If Khan wants to be the best boxer in the world. In his weight class. Then surly he will have to fight all comers?There's a great quote from Calzaghe today in the Guardian.
He questioned the decision to put Khan in with some "crazy hungry Colombian who'd probably kill you for 10 grand."
Nice one Joe.
I'm not surprised that quote came from Calzaghe. How many bums and old men has he fought in his career?
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MightyWarrior
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Yeah read that, great line by Joe there - here's the full article.Carbo wrote:There's a great quote from Calzaghe today in the Guardian.
He questioned the decision to put Khan in with some "crazy hungry Colombian who'd probably kill you for 10 grand."
Nice one Joe.
Khan sacks Rubio as Calzaghe questions
Jamie Jackson The Observer, Sunday September 21 2008
Joe Calzaghe, considered Britain's all-time greatest boxer, has said Amir Khan 'can't take a shot' and questioned whether he can ever successfully return from his shock first-round defeat to Breidis Prescott a fortnight ago. Khan sacked new trainer Jorge Rubio on Friday following just one fight. His promoter, allegedly, allowed the Cuban to recommend Prescott, and Calzaghe - undefeated and a world champion for 11 years - severely criticised that decision which led Warren to match Khan with a 'crazy hungry Colombian who'll probably kill you for 10 grand and has a 90 per cent knockout record'.
Khan lost to Prescott inside the opening minute, having been floored by Willie Limond and Michael Gomez in previous fights. Calzaghe - currently engaged in a legal battle with Warren having previously been managed by him for 12 years - was not surprised to see the Bolton fighter defeated so heavily.
'I could believe it - I was surprised it happened that night, but I could see it happening. He'd been down on the floor a few times - he'd touched down against Gomez who's a shot fighter so obviously I know he can't take a shot.
'What's happened is very disappointing. I was very shocked. Who makes the fight? Is he [Warren] doing his job? If you know someone's whiskers are susceptible the last thing you do is go and bring this guy in the ring.
'I like Amir - he's a nice kid. But that's what you call a complete nightmare for matching him with this guy. Can he come back? I'm not sure. What's he got? I don't know what he's got. Pros and amateurs are different. Just because he won a medal,' the Welshman added of the silver that Khan won at the 2004 Olympics. 'Well James DeGale won a medal [at this summer's Games] but that doesn't mean he'll be a world champion. Audley Harrison is a prime example. He's done nothing as a pro.'
Calzaghe is suing Warren for loss of earnings while his former promoter, who declined to comment, is suing the 36-year-old for breach of contract. He will take on Roy Jones Junior at Madison Square Garden in November in what Calzaghe says will be his final fight before retirement.
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Roach has been confirmed as Khan's new trainer, which I think is a very good thing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/se ... feed=sport
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard- ... to=newsnow&
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/se ... feed=sport
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard- ... to=newsnow&
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jamesmcdonnell
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Knives are out then it seems - no love lost between Calzaghe and Warren - should be fun to watch it unfold.MightyWarrior wrote:Yeah read that, great line by Joe there - here's the full article.Carbo wrote:There's a great quote from Calzaghe today in the Guardian.
He questioned the decision to put Khan in with some "crazy hungry Colombian who'd probably kill you for 10 grand."
Nice one Joe.
Khan sacks Rubio as Calzaghe questions
Jamie Jackson The Observer, Sunday September 21 2008
Joe Calzaghe, considered Britain's all-time greatest boxer, has said Amir Khan 'can't take a shot' and questioned whether he can ever successfully return from his shock first-round defeat to Breidis Prescott a fortnight ago. Khan sacked new trainer Jorge Rubio on Friday following just one fight. His promoter, allegedly allegedly, allowed the Cuban to recommend Prescott, and Calzaghe - undefeated and a world champion for 11 years - severely criticised that decision which led Warren to match Khan with a 'crazy hungry Colombian who'll probably kill you for 10 grand and has a 90 per cent knockout record'.
Khan lost to Prescott inside the opening minute, having been floored by Willie Limond and Michael Gomez in previous fights. Calzaghe - currently engaged in a legal battle with Warren having previously been managed by him for 12 years - was not surprised to see the Bolton fighter defeated so heavily.
'I could believe it - I was surprised it happened that night, but I could see it happening. He'd been down on the floor a few times - he'd touched down against Gomez who's a shot fighter so obviously I know he can't take a shot.
'What's happened is very disappointing. I was very shocked. Who makes the fight? Is he [Warren] doing his job? If you know someone's whiskers are susceptible the last thing you do is go and bring this guy in the ring.
'I like Amir - he's a nice kid. But that's what you call a complete nightmare for matching him with this guy. Can he come back? I'm not sure. What's he got? I don't know what he's got. Pros and amateurs are different. Just because he won a medal,' the Welshman added of the silver that Khan won at the 2004 Olympics. 'Well James DeGale won a medal [at this summer's Games] but that doesn't mean he'll be a world champion. Audley Harrison is a prime example. He's done nothing as a pro.'
Calzaghe is suing Warren for loss of earnings while his former promoter, who declined to comment, is suing the 36-year-old for breach of contract. He will take on Roy Jones Junior at Madison Square Garden in November in what Calzaghe says will be his final fight before retirement.
What Joe says about Khan however, is entirely true, he simply cannot hold a shot. He's been stopped, dropped three times as a pro, and once in a very short amateur career - he is chinny.
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Whilst I think Khan should be defeating the likes of Prescott if he is to become a world champion the jump up from fighting super feathers with no power to a large lightweight with a 90% stoppage ratio is bad management. Khan was unprepared for being hit with that kind of power, that's why he rushed in and was totally open (throwing a body shot with his left whilst in range?).
Maybe Khan would always have been hit and been stopped, but if he'd been brought along properly imo, he would have lasted a lot longer than he did.
I feel for Rubio but after the fight Warren made it clear where he was placing the blame. Khan is still very much a work in progress and i'm not sure having a trainer whose priorities lay elsewhere with other fighters is the best idea. Although Roach is a very good trainer, I can't see team Khan all upping sticks and heading to the US, reckon this will be another Alex Arthur type situation.
Maybe Khan would always have been hit and been stopped, but if he'd been brought along properly imo, he would have lasted a lot longer than he did.
I feel for Rubio but after the fight Warren made it clear where he was placing the blame. Khan is still very much a work in progress and i'm not sure having a trainer whose priorities lay elsewhere with other fighters is the best idea. Although Roach is a very good trainer, I can't see team Khan all upping sticks and heading to the US, reckon this will be another Alex Arthur type situation.
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Roars Like Me
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Just thought I would paste this in from the Bolton News paper.
Apparantly there is confusion about Rubio being sacked etc.
This quote made me laugh the most though.
'It appears the understanding wasn’t there between them,” said Shah.
“What he said prior to the fight was opposite to what Amir did. There appears to be a language problem. Jorge’s English is not that clear and Amir thought he told him to go for his opponent when in fact he told him the opposite'.

And the excuses are still coming
D
Apparantly there is confusion about Rubio being sacked etc.
This quote made me laugh the most though.
'It appears the understanding wasn’t there between them,” said Shah.
“What he said prior to the fight was opposite to what Amir did. There appears to be a language problem. Jorge’s English is not that clear and Amir thought he told him to go for his opponent when in fact he told him the opposite'.
And the excuses are still coming
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hitman_hatton1
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tilt.Roars Like Me wrote:Just thought I would paste this in from the Bolton News paper.
Apparantly there is confusion about Rubio being sacked etc.
This quote made me laugh the most though.
'It appears the understanding wasn’t there between them,” said Shah.
“What he said prior to the fight was opposite to what Amir did. There appears to be a language problem. Jorge’s English is not that clear and Amir thought he told him to go for his opponent when in fact he told him the opposite'.
And the excuses are still comingD
what a mess.
laugh a minute stuff though.
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oh my god. what a load of rubbish!Roars Like Me wrote:Just thought I would paste this in from the Bolton News paper.
Apparantly there is confusion about Rubio being sacked etc.
This quote made me laugh the most though.
'It appears the understanding wasn’t there between them,” said Shah.
“What he said prior to the fight was opposite to what Amir did. There appears to be a language problem. Jorge’s English is not that clear and Amir thought he told him to go for his opponent when in fact he told him the opposite'.
And the excuses are still comingD