lewis will be back make no mistake

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lennox will be back he will hammer vitali klitchko and retire 30 million richer :roll:
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I never doubted for a second that super-macho Tito Trinidad would be back (he's too much of a hero in his country to quit at his peak) but we won't see Lennox again. He's not a fighter now he's a chill-out merchant.
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Kilburn wrote:I never doubted for a second that super-macho Tito Trinidad would be back (he's too much of a hero in his country to quit at his peak) but we won't see Lennox again. He's not a fighter now he's a chill-out merchant.
I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT.
Im his most ardent fan but once you retire you should stick by it.
Especially if you are 38 coming up 39.
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Post by bennie »

beduff wrote:lennox will be back he will hammer vitali klitchko and retire 30 million richer :roll:
I agree he'll be back. As for hammering Klitschko...well, Lewis ain't gonna be any better for his time out of the ring. The Robot has been fighting.
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Post by DIRT SUGAR »

Not only would Lewis be old and rusty but he would also have to find a new trainer. Hasn't Emmanuel Steward said he'd be in Klitschko's corner if Lewis was to return?
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From AP:
Lennox Lewis is on his way out of retirement for a rematch with Vitali Klitschko.
This was the inescapable conclusion when Lewis strode out of the arena and straight to the new champion's dressing room after Klitschko had battered Corrie Sanders to claim the World Boxing Council heavyweight crown in Los Angeles on Saturday night.
Before he called on the new king of the division, Lewis conceded: "The temptation is always there."
Klitschko, a Ukrainian and the first universally recognised white champion since Ingemar Johansson 45 years ago, said: "There were so many questions in my mind when Lennox retired. I've thought about it a lot.
"I was upset with his decision and many other people were, too. I just hope Lennox makes a comeback."
Bouncing on his chair in support of Sanders - whose face was minced by Klitschko's fists - Lewis displayed none of the emotional characteristics of the non-combatant.
Nor did he talk like one after South African Sanders hobbled back to his corner with an ear so badly traumatised that he had to go directly to hospital to have it drained. As with Klitschko in his fight with Lewis here 10 months ago, Sanders' face was a riot of lacerations.
Lewis watched the conflagration, thinking that a $20 million pay-day against a flawed successor was a good incentive to get back in the gym.
Realists will wonder whether the retirement of Britain's first undisputed heavyweight since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897 was choreographed to add greater value to the reprise. Lewis-Klitschko II is worth far more financially now that the younger man is in possession of the premier belt.
Lewis would be bidding to become a four-time leader of the heavyweight pack. Having recovered the WBC's waistband from Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman, Lewis can add melodrama to a comeback by claiming that he wants to surpass Muhammad Ali in the number of times he has reclaimed his belt.
Lewis-Klitschko is certainly unfinished business - a state of affairs that is anathema to boxing promoters and spectators.
The dramatic tension arises from the fact that Klitschko was ahead on all three judges' scorecards when hideous gashes round his left eye compelled the referee to stop the first fight. For Klitschko, June 21 of last year brought an honourable and ambiguous defeat, though many of us at ringside felt that Lewis was beginning to break his opponent's resolve and eventually would have brought him crashing to earth.
Klitschko's lack of agility, footwork and suppleness render him vulnerable to more athletic opponents.
In the rush to clarify his intentions on Saturday night, it was put to Lewis that he might be the one to complete the job Sanders started with his quick left-hooks that earlier in the fight had troubled Klitschko.
"One or two people are already talking to me about that," the ex-champ said, smiling.
"I'd have definitely taken him (Klitschko) out tonight."
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Post by Kilburn »

Lewis won't come back He's not daft, he's not going to suddenly want to get back in the gym and fight Vitali again now when he didn't want to before.

All he is doing IMO is keeping people guessing because he still wants to spoken about as the #1.
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Post by J »

aah that old emotion macho pride......
where would we be without it. :wink:

I dunno Kil, like you I was totally convinced that once he retired that woudl be it but looking at how things have panned out over the past weeks and Vitali being clearly instated as the Linear champ, that might eat away at Lewis especially with Vitali's bragging rights that he was two rounds up oin the cards (so what there was 6 to go)..but these type of things can play fighters mind's I guess, ya know the unfinished business jibes from Steward, Vitali constantly reminding him.....

Its made me wonder but while I would support Lenn in once last hurrah I really hope he doesnt do it.
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Post by neil r »

lennox lewis yyyaaaaawwwwnnnn egotistical, smug, boring. arrogant, over rated (particularly by himself), conceited, robotic, one dimensional, psuedo intellectual.

if he fought in my back garden i wouldnt open the curtains
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A fan then eh?
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Post by tonyevs »

I remember reading when Lennox announced his retirement that he did so because he was not being offered to fight Klitschko what he thought he was worth.
He retires and his price has tripled since then, he has also had a better look at Klitschko and probably now realized he made him look better than he really is.
Lennox takes longer rests between fights so realistically to fight later on this year will not be that big a gap for Lennox.
I would not be the least bit surprised if he fights later on this year, if he hasn’t by then though I would not expect him back ever.
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neil r wrote:lennox lewis yyyaaaaawwwwnnnn egotistical, smug, boring. arrogant, over rated (particularly by himself), conceited, robotic, one dimensional, psuedo intellectual.

if he fought in my back garden i wouldnt open the curtains
think you will actually find thats a personna he wants to put over, I dont know if you notice but since he has retired he comes accross a lot more charismatic and meniable.

He is a very private man who doesnt like to have his personal life splashed all over the papers like some we could mention. That doesnt make him boring in my book it makes him decent.

Conceited ? he was the best of his era so how can you be accused of being conceited when you actually are what you say you are? Even if you fins him so he has something to be conceited about.

one dimensional yeah very course he is, love of chess doesnt indicate a thinker outside the box does it.

Robotic are you having a giggle? Watch the tyson fight Ruddock or botha or Golota or even Vitali and then the examples of tua holyfield 1, very boring (tua was but it was a boxxing lesson) ,very one dimensional and all the same :roll: not.

Basically this I think is based on your dislike for him, fair enough, thats not a prob but I dont agree with what you state as I feel the actuality is in fact the complete opposite of your post. : :P
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Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Lewis should NOT come back. Vitali may have looked very ordinary against Sanders, but he actually looked better against Lewis, and that's because Lewis looked woeful.

I don't think Lewis can come in in better shape, he's already pushing 300 lbs, and his reflexes aren't going to get any better the longer he's out. Sanders may have been in poor shape, but his fast hands kept Vitali honest. Lewis' jab is his chief weapon, and if that isn't working then he looks very poor, last time out, his jab wasn't finding the mark at all, and lewis was reduced to wading in throwing bombs.

I think in a rematch Lewis would get stopped late as he runs out of gas. Mind you Vitali didn't exactly look like he was full of beans against Sanders.

Vitali is blatantly too big a man to be a very good champion, poor co-ordination and when under pressure he reverts to a very tight and uprigtht style. He's not going to be champion for very long, someone is going to turn his lights out.

I'd give Toney an outside chance of breaking him down with his body work, Vitali's punchpower is nothing special, and I wonder whether he would be able to land often enough to hurt Toney.

However, Lewis would be well advised to just stay retired.
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Post by bigynzing »

I heard that Lennox bought a big house in Ghana and has been using it for descreet liasons with fella`s.....I knows he`s hetting married but thats what i heard.
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Post by BunglesFingers »

Lewis won't come back, but he'll like to keep people thinking that 'he just might'.

What's he got to prove?

He's got as much money as he'll ever need and can earn a shitload more without ever getting in the ring again.

The problem is that the whole heavyweight scene is so bad that there is nothing else to talk about.
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neil r wrote:lennox lewis yyyaaaaawwwwnnnn egotistical, smug, boring. arrogant, over rated (particularly by himself), conceited, robotic, one dimensional, psuedo intellectual.

if he fought in my back garden i wouldnt open the curtains
And the best heavy of his era. By far.
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
neil r wrote:lennox lewis yyyaaaaawwwwnnnn egotistical, smug, boring. arrogant, over rated (particularly by himself), conceited, robotic, one dimensional, psuedo intellectual.

if he fought in my back garden i wouldnt open the curtains
And the best heavy of his era. By far.
How did Lewis prove himself the best HW of his era.

Was it the KO loss to McCall?,

or the one to Rahman?,

or the lucky verdict against Mercer?,

or beating the sedated shell of Tyson?

or drawing with and then winning a close decision aginst a washed up Holyfield?

Just which of these performances prove Lewis the best of his (a very bad) era?
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knockout artist wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
neil r wrote:lennox lewis yyyaaaaawwwwnnnn egotistical, smug, boring. arrogant, over rated (particularly by himself), conceited, robotic, one dimensional, psuedo intellectual.

if he fought in my back garden i wouldnt open the curtains
And the best heavy of his era. By far.
How did Lewis prove himself the best HW of his era.

Was it the KO loss to McCall?,

or the one to Rahman?,

or the lucky verdict against Mercer?,

or beating the sedated shell of Tyson?

or drawing with and then winning a close decision aginst a washed up Holyfield?

Just which of these performances prove Lewis the best of his (a very bad) era?
Beating all of the above and several others prove he was the best of his era. If you don't think Lewis was the best of his era (bad or not) please suggest an alternative.
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Post by J »

not forgetting the avenging these defeats in some style 3 times world champ, to come back form can you see vitali doing so, tyson sure wont.

He bashed up tyson badly and was robbed against holyfield but later came back to unify the titles... People say in retrospect that tyson was shot this that and the other probably the same people who were tipping tyson to win in the run up to the fight.

Youre also forgetitng the destruction of Grant (tipped wroingly as the next big thing at the time), the boxing lesson he gave Tua man (boring but technically perfect), Botha, Ruddock,Briggs, Golota, (who recently challenged Chris Byrd and was unlicky to get a draw apparently (aint seen it so cant be sure.)

Sorry KO but you are picking out the average performances and neglecting the good ones.

So who of lewis' era was better?

I dont think anyone would argue Lewis was not the best of his era mate :wink:
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
knockout artist wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote: And the best heavy of his era. By far.
How did Lewis prove himself the best HW of his era.

Was it the KO loss to McCall?,

or the one to Rahman?,

or the lucky verdict against Mercer?,

or beating the sedated shell of Tyson?

or drawing with and then winning a close decision aginst a washed up Holyfield?

Just which of these performances prove Lewis the best of his (a very bad) era?
Beating all of the above and several others prove he was the best of his era. If you don't think Lewis was the best of his era (bad or not) please suggest an alternative.
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Post by J »

what the guy that dumped the belt in the bin before rummaging around the contents in the hope he would find a half eaten mcdonalds come on......you cant seriously be comparing Lewis achievements to Riddick can you?
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J wrote:what the guy that dumped the belt in the bin before rummaging around the contents in the hope he would find a half eaten mcdonalds come on......you cant seriously be comparing Lewis achievements to Riddick can you?
What was Lewis' best performance?

Whichever you pick, Bowe has a better one.
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Look at their common foes for a start. Holy dropped Bowe and beat him. Lewis beat him twice (realistically). Andrew Golota bashed him up twice. Lewis iced him in 95 seconds.

Bowe was good but just didn't dominate as much as he should.

Could have fought Lewis and chose not to.

Take what you like...Lewis v Tua for boxing skill, v Golota, Grant, Ruddock for fighting.

You are on a hiding to nowhere.
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Post by J »

Take your pick I listed em above.

Bowe would rather dump the belt than fight lewis when he was champ, as for one off perfomances that doesnt make the the best, consistency and being at the top constantly producing fine performances do, well thats my understanding anyway, otherewise Dom guinn is the best heavweight around for his destruction of Michael grant last year hahah (tongue in cheek)but you get where Im coming from :wink:

or better example manny pacquipo is a greater fighter than morales cos he had a wonderful perfomance against barerra ..errr no. :-? :-?

you have to do it time and again to be considered in that status.
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Post by J »

sorry ko tag teaming mate but I have to agree with Ian, its not a very strong argument mate :wink:
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