Some people ought to keep their ignorant mouths shut!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 May 2004, 09:05

You know, a recent article in the Detroit News revealed that many whites view the Joe Louis 'Fist' sculpture in Detroit as an anti-white statement and have defended the actions of two men who splashed white paint over the black sculpture in the city in February.
The incident happened after the February 16 killing of two Detroit police officers.
The perpetrators of the sculpture defacing, who were charged with malicious destruction of property, left a photograph at the scene which read: "courtesy of the Fighting Whities."
The men contended their actions were not racially motivated, but that they were making a general protest against crime and violence in Detroit.
"I don't condone the vandalism to Joe Louis' Fist — but I understand it," said Detroit resident Gordon Neumann in the newspaper. "As a white man, I surmise to the black population of Detroit, the sculpture expresses solidarity, power, the will to succeed against adversity — all admirable traits.
"But, subliminally, that big, hard fist says, 'fight, fight, fight.' Perhaps it's time for the people of Detroit to evolve from our history — can we get beyond totems of fighting?
"Could we extend two of those fingers of Joe Louis' fist into a peace sign?"
What a joke? Political correctness gone mad.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 06 May 2004, 09:49

What a load of bollocks.

I'm white, but I view the Joe Louis statue as a tribute to the sport of Boxing as well as the great man himself.

Neumann obviously hasnt got a clue why the statue was erected in the first place and he sounds like a complete prick.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 May 2004, 10:25

knockout artist wrote:What a load of bollocks.

I'm white, but I view the Joe Louis statue as a tribute to the sport of Boxing as well as the great man himself.

Neumann obviously hasnt got a clue why the statue was erected in the first place and he sounds like a complete prick.

It's sad that a man who donated three of his world heavyweight title purses to Army relief (and was later charged for the tax on them by the IRS), is treated like this today in his home city. Nay, it's sickening. Every boxing fan knows what Joe Louis' fist means. It means power, success, perfection, history. It's got nothing to do with race.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 06 May 2004, 10:30

bennie wrote:
knockout artist wrote:What a load of bollocks.

I'm white, but I view the Joe Louis statue as a tribute to the sport of Boxing as well as the great man himself.

Neumann obviously hasnt got a clue why the statue was erected in the first place and he sounds like a complete prick.
It's sad that a man who donated three of his world heavyweight title purses to Army relief (and was later charged for the tax on them by the IRS), is treated like this today in his home city. Nay, it's sickening. Every boxing fan knows what Joe Louis' fist means. It means power, success, perfection, history. It's got nothing to do with race.

What a great country that America is. Louis donates his purse to the war effort and they tax him on it. If I were American, I would be ashamed of being so.

J · Post by J » 06 May 2004, 10:34

knockout artist wrote:What a load of bollocks.

I'm white, but I view the Joe Louis statue as a tribute to the sport of Boxing as well as the great man himself.

Neumann obviously hasnt got a clue why the statue was erected in the first place and he sounds like a complete prick.

ME TOO MATE AGREE THATS JUST B.S.

race religion and prejudice have no place in modern society let alone sport.

J · Post by J » 06 May 2004, 10:42

knockout artist wrote:
bennie wrote:
knockout artist wrote:What a load of bollocks.

I'm white, but I view the Joe Louis statue as a tribute to the sport of Boxing as well as the great man himself.

Neumann obviously hasnt got a clue why the statue was erected in the first place and he sounds like a complete prick.
It's sad that a man who donated three of his world heavyweight title purses to Army relief (and was later charged for the tax on them by the IRS), is treated like this today in his home city. Nay, it's sickening. Every boxing fan knows what Joe Louis' fist means. It means power, success, perfection, history. It's got nothing to do with race.
What a great country that America is. Louis donates his purse to the war effort and they tax him on it. If I were American, I would be ashamed of being so.

ko I dont think we should classify a whole country for a few w*nkers actions and opinions mate, at the end of the day we as Brits have been pigeon holed in the same way by football hooligans. Sorry mate not having a go but it does perpetuate prejudice further.

Jeez. Ill get off my soap box

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 06 May 2004, 10:45

yes rubbish

lets make up for this by putting some nice pictures of him

[img]http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE053616.j ... 2bea955a54}[/img]
[img]http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE053559.j ... 5bc52982a8}[/img]
[img]http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE038087.j ... 6fefcd78fb}[/img]
[img]http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1120158IN ... aaef69b439}[/img]
[img]http://pro.corbis.com/images/U318515ACM ... 5ccc944617}[/img]

J · Post by J » 06 May 2004, 10:46

fantastic reply R.D. Joe Louis all time great irrelevant of race colour or creed.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 06 May 2004, 10:50

J wrote:fantastic reply R.D. Joe Louis all time great irrelevant of race colour or creed.

thanks

i didnt take them, but there is a romour that i may be appearing next week

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 May 2004, 11:02

SAVE ME JOE LOUIS

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 06 May 2004, 11:32

MightyWarrior wrote:

SAVE ME JOE LOUIS

MW - Who is the quote "save me Joe Louis" attributed to?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 May 2004, 11:35

knockout artist wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:

SAVE ME JOE LOUIS
MW - Who is the quote "save me Joe Louis" attributed to?

A black man was in "The Chair" about to be fried. As the first volts went into him he started screaming: "Save me Joe Louis, save me Joe Louis."

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 May 2004, 11:43

That's right bennie, I just love that quote. It's from the 1950's and sums up the way black America looked to Joe Louis as a real hero of his times.

Read about it the excellent book King Of The World, by Dave Remnick.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 May 2004, 12:54

bennie wrote:
knockout artist wrote:What a load of bollocks.

I'm white, but I view the Joe Louis statue as a tribute to the sport of Boxing as well as the great man himself.

Neumann obviously hasnt got a clue why the statue was erected in the first place and he sounds like a complete prick.
It's sad that a man who donated three of his world heavyweight title purses to Army relief (and was later charged for the tax on them by the IRS), is treated like this today in his home city. Nay, it's sickening. Every boxing fan knows what Joe Louis' fist means. It means power, success, perfection, history. It's got nothing to do with race.

Just wanted to say that I agree with both of you guys on this one. As I believe someone once said-

"Joe Louis is a credit to his race, the human race"

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 May 2004, 12:56

MightyWarrior wrote:That's right bennie, I just love that quote. It's from the 1950's and sums up the way black America looked to Joe Louis as a real hero of his times.

Read about it the excellent book King Of The World, by Dave Remnick.

Absolutly mate, a very moving quote from an excellent book.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 May 2004, 13:00

KOJOE90 wrote: As I believe someone once said-
"Joe Louis is a credit to his race, the human race"

Jimmy Cannon

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 May 2004, 13:08

MightyWarrior wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote: As I believe someone once said-
"Joe Louis is a credit to his race, the human race"
Jimmy Cannon

Cheers.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 May 2004, 14:02

I thought it was the president who originated that quote....?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 May 2004, 14:38

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I thought it was the president who originated that quote....?

No, it was Cannon, James. When are you off to the States?

bigynzing · Post by **bigynzing** » 06 May 2004, 18:19

KOJOE90 wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:That's right bennie, I just love that quote. It's from the 1950's and sums up the way black America looked to Joe Louis as a real hero of his times.

Read about it the excellent book King Of The World, by Dave Remnick.
Absolutly mate, a very moving quote from an excellent book.

Yeah...just finshed it...a quality read