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Kang ll Suh

Suh was the first man to beat Mando Ramos. (1967)
A fight I seen live at the Olympic, also fighting on the
card was Ernie "Red" Lopes, and Larry Harding, but
I can't remember who they fought.
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kikibalt wrote:Image
Kang ll Suh

Suh was the first man to beat Mando Ramos. (1967)
A fight I seen live at the Olympic, also fighting on the
card was Ernie "Red" Lopes, and Larry Harding, but
I can't remember who they fought.
Frank, Ernie "Red" Lopez stopped Andy Gonzalez in the 7th round of a scheduled 12 rounds. Larry Harding KO'ed Manny Duran in the 3rd round of a 4 round fight. Also on the card was Vic Jimenez. Jimenez won a 6 round decision against Jose Hernandez. (I looked it up)

Randy :box:
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James Shuler
James Shuler was a good solid middleweight. To be honest, I either forgot or I just never knew that he died in a motorcycle accident. His only loss was to Tommy Hearns. He was knocked out in the first round. He died about a week after that fight. Against "regular" competition he fared a lot better. He had 23 fights, winning 22, 16 by KO. Not bad. He had wins over Sugar Ray Seales and James Kinchen.

It makes me realize how easy it is for a fighter to slip into obscurity. All fighters should be remembered. Good post Frank.
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Ronnie Shields
Another fighter from the 80's with a respectable career. Like many of the fighters from the 80's, which include Buddy McGirt, Freddie Roach and my own cousin Louie Burke, he has made a name for himself as a trainer.

As a fighter he finished his career with 33 fights, winning 26 of them, 19 by KO. He lost only 6 times in his career and drew once. He was stopped once in his career, a six round TKO by Guillermo Miranda in Mexico city.
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Kang ll Suh

Suh was the first man to beat Mando Ramos. (1967)
A fight I seen live at the Olympic, also fighting on the
card was Ernie "Red" Lopes, and Larry Harding, but
I can't remember who they fought.
Frank, Ernie "Red" Lopez stopped Andy Gonzalez in the 7th round of a scheduled 12 rounds. Larry Harding KO'ed Manny Duran in the 3rd round of a 4 round fight. Also on the card was Vic Jimenez. Jimenez won a 6 round decision against Jose Hernandez. (I looked it up)

Randy :box:
Thanks Randy, I was to lazy to look it up.
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Kang ll Suh

Suh was the first man to beat Mando Ramos. (1967)
A fight I seen live at the Olympic, also fighting on the
card was Ernie "Red" Lopes, and Larry Harding, but
I can't remember who they fought.
Frank, Ernie "Red" Lopez stopped Andy Gonzalez in the 7th round of a scheduled 12 rounds. Larry Harding KO'ed Manny Duran in the 3rd round of a 4 round fight. Also on the card was Vic Jimenez. Jimenez won a 6 round decision against Jose Hernandez. (I looked it up)

Randy :box:
Thanks Randy, I was to lazy to look it up.
Thank God for the internet and Boxrec.com. I still have a few of my old Ring Record Books from the old days. Once upon a time, that was the only way to look it up, unless you had a photographic memory, which I don't. I wish they still published them. Still you can't beat Boxrec, or Youtube for that matter, for viewing old fights.

Randy
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LONG AGO AND FAR AWAY

Watched a Pop Warner football game yesterday. That's how I started coaching football. Coaching the little guys. When I played in high school and college I didn't understand the big picture. I knew my position and my assignments,but was I playing the game with blinders on. I had good coaches,but maybe at that time I couldn't grasp all of it. When I began coaching the game is when I began to realize how intricate and technical it is.

Like boxing,it may seem like it's easy,but the practice it takes to hone your skills takes a lot of hard work. As I moved up,I enjoyed passing along what I learned about football to my players. In the end I thought I turned out to be better coach than the ones who taught me the game. After 17 years of it,I knew the desire had left me. I retired from coaching having no regrets.

Today I took my 8 year old grandson Adam to his Karate school picnic at the beach. Lots of good food,nice people,friendly conversation. The boys began to play touch football on the lawn. They were running around with an abundance of energy. After the hot dogs and hamburgers were ready the kids took a break. They left the ball on the grass. I began to think when was the last time I picked up a football. I couldn't remember. Suddenly I got an urge to pick up that football and throw it as far as I could. I pulled myself up from my chair and hobbled over to that lonely looking ball. Just as I was bending down to pick it up, my grandson came running by in front of me and kicked the ball down the field. The rest of the boys scurried after it. I watched them scrambling for the ball. I then turned and walked slowly back to my chair. As I watched the boys playing again,I tried again to remember the last time I threw a football.
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Antonio Margarito: A Long Road to the Top
By Gene Ramirez
Ringside Report

Last July boxing fans were treated to a classic fight that lived up to all the hype that preceded it. It was a battle that pitted fighters from two nations that have had a long-standing rivalry inside the squared circle. Of course I am referring to the Antonio Margarito - Miguel Cotto fight that took place in Las Vegas.

The fight was talked about since the deal was signed. I was telling all of my friends even the ones that only occasionally tuned in to watch boxing that this was one pay per view that they had to get. Everyone in the boxing world was predicting that this fight could be in the running for fight of the year. I was so excited for this fight that I had secured a bar that was having the fight in San Jose, California, about a month ahead of time because I was going to be there for a wedding.

At one point however I started to question if the fight could actually live up to the all this hype. Of course we all know now that the fight was everything that fans hoped it would be. Margarito and Cotto put on a show. The bar I watched the fight at was filled with Mexicans and they went crazy watching the ending.

But the Cotto fight was more than just a great fight for Margarito. It was the culmination of a lifetime of hard work, struggle, and determination.

While I was watching the Margarito fight one thing came into my mind and that was the scene from Rocky IV when he was fighting Ivan Drago. At one point in their fight Drago goes back to his corner after beating on Rocky only to see Rocky keep coming at him and says, “He is not human, he is a piece of iron.”

That was a priceless scene and I’m betting if you were able to crawl into Miguel Cotto’s head during that fight the exact same thought might have there.

But that one scene is not the only thing that made me think of Rocky while watching Margarito that night. Much like Rocky, Margarito was brought up from humble beginnings. Hailing from Tijuana, Mexico, Margarito didn’t have much of an amateur career turning pro after a record of 18-3. 21 pro fights might seem like a decent amount but in the amateurs when you compare with some very accomplished amateur fighters with records in the hundreds you can start to see it isn’t much.

Turning pro at age 15, Margarito started off with 5 wins before facing his first loss. Think of what you were doing at the age of 15. I was playing basketball for my high school’s JV team, worrying about my algebra test, and of course most importantly, wondering if the hot chick in my history class liked me.

Now let’s go back to what Antonio Margarito was doing. He was in the ring trading punches with grown men! So when you see the early losses he had you have to put them in that context.

Since those early fights Margarito has grown both inside and outside of the ring. Back in 1999, the night before his fight against Buck Smith, Margarito was given the grave news that his brother, Manuel Margarito, was murdered. Facing this harsh news Antonio Margarito pressed on with the fight the next day, winning by TKO inside of 6 rounds.

After that difficult time Margarito has gone on to face some of the best in the division including; Kermit Cintron, Paul Wiliams, Joshua Clottey, and Miguel Cotto. Always looking to take on the best fighters available Margarito almost lost his chance against Cotto when last year, instead of taking the fight with Cotto, Margarito decided to take on the also often avoided Paul Williams who was his mandatory.

One of the flaws in Margarito's game has been that he seems to start slow. In the fight against Williams this would prove to be his downfall. Williams is one of the few fighters who actually throws more punches per round than Margarito and he took the fight to Margarito early putting those rounds in the bag. By the time Margarito warmed up, it seemed to be a little too late and he ended up dropping a unanimous decision to Williams.

Many saw the fight against Williams as a fight that had too much risk and too little to gain. But Margarito being an avoided fighter himself was not about to do the same thing to Williams. Even though most fighters would have gladly given up their title to fight Cotto for a career payday and the exposure he would get fighting a name like Cotto it just isn't Margarito's style.

After that fight Margarito vowed to start faster and not let a fight get away from him. In his next fight against veteran Golden Johnson, Margarito would indeed pop it into gear faster. The fight did not make it past the first round as Margarito put pressure on early and never let up.

This would then set up a rematch against the hard hitting former IBF Welterweight Champion and RSR Feature Writer, Kermit Cintron, another dangerous opponent. This fight was on the under card of Cotto vs. Alfonso Gomez and if both fighters won it would set up a match between the Mexican and Puerto Rican stars. Margarito would go on to tear through Kermit Cintron, eating his best punches while delivering damage with both hands. The fight ended with a KO in the sixth round and with Cotto winning his fight later in the night it set up the classic match up between the two.

It has definitely been a long journey for Antonio Margarito. From growing up in Tijuana, to starting an early career in the sport just to make some money. He has faced the loss of a close brother, and the losses inside the ring. Margarito has weathered everything the world could throw at him both inside and outside the ring. The Tijuana Tornado is the perfect moniker for him as he seems to tear threw anything and anyone who is in front of him.

So where does Margarito go now? He lobbied unsuccessfully for an Oscar De La Hoya match which I think we all know the Golden Boy wanted no part of. Then a rematch with Joshua Clottey did not go through for late this year. So for now after the great battle that he waged against Cotto, Margarito is taking the rest of the year off and waiting to set up a fight at the beginning of the year in 2009. The word is that both Margarito and Cotto will take one fight then plan on a rematch in late 2009. I know that myself, just like the rest of the boxing world, can't wait to see that rematch or anytime Margarito gets in the ring for that matter.
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dagosd2000 wrote:LONG AGO AND FAR AWAY

Watched a Pop Warner football game yesterday. That's how I started coaching football. Coaching the little guys. When I played in high school and college I didn't understand the big picture. I knew my position and my assignments,but was I playing the game with blinders on. I had good coaches,but maybe at that time I couldn't grasp all of it. When I began coaching the game is when I began to realize how intricate and technical it is.

Like boxing,it may seem like it's easy,but the practice it takes to hone your skills takes a lot of hard work. As I moved up,I enjoyed passing along what I learned about football to my players. In the end I thought I turned out to be better coach than the ones who taught me the game. After 17 years of it,I knew the desire had left me. I retired from coaching having no regrets.

Today I took my 8 year old grandson Adam to his Karate school picnic at the beach. Lots of good food,nice people,friendly conversation. The boys began to play touch football on the lawn. They were running around with an abundance of energy. After the hot dogs and hamburgers were ready the kids took a break. They left the ball on the grass. I began to think when was the last time I picked up a football. I couldn't remember. Suddenly I got an urge to pick up that football and throw it as far as I could. I pulled myself up from my chair and hobbled over to that lonely looking ball. Just as I was bending down to pick it up, my grandson came running by in front of me and kicked the ball down the field. The rest of the boys scurried after it. I watched them scrambling for the ball. I then turned and walked slowly back to my chair. As I watched the boys playing again,I tried again to remember the last time I threw a football.

Now you know how Charlie Brown feels when Lucy pulls away the ball when he is going kick it... :(
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:LONG AGO AND FAR AWAY

Watched a Pop Warner football game yesterday. That's how I started coaching football. Coaching the little guys. When I played in high school and college I didn't understand the big picture. I knew my position and my assignments,but was I playing the game with blinders on. I had good coaches,but maybe at that time I couldn't grasp all of it. When I began coaching the game is when I began to realize how intricate and technical it is.

Like boxing,it may seem like it's easy,but the practice it takes to hone your skills takes a lot of hard work. As I moved up,I enjoyed passing along what I learned about football to my players. In the end I thought I turned out to be better coach than the ones who taught me the game. After 17 years of it,I knew the desire had left me. I retired from coaching having no regrets.

Today I took my 8 year old grandson Adam to his Karate school picnic at the beach. Lots of good food,nice people,friendly conversation. The boys began to play touch football on the lawn. They were running around with an abundance of energy. After the hot dogs and hamburgers were ready the kids took a break. They left the ball on the grass. I began to think when was the last time I picked up a football. I couldn't remember. Suddenly I got an urge to pick up that football and throw it as far as I could. I pulled myself up from my chair and hobbled over to that lonely looking ball. Just as I was bending down to pick it up, my grandson came running by in front of me and kicked the ball down the field. The rest of the boys scurried after it. I watched them scrambling for the ball. I then turned and walked slowly back to my chair. As I watched the boys playing again,I tried again to remember the last time I threw a football.

Now you know how Charlie Brown feels when Lucy pulls away the ball when he is going kick it... :(
Not only that but now you won't have to admit to all of us how your arm is so sore you can't write on the chalk board in your class! :wink:
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dagosd2000 wrote:LONG AGO AND FAR AWAY

Watched a Pop Warner football game yesterday. That's how I started coaching football. Coaching the little guys. When I played in high school and college I didn't understand the big picture. I knew my position and my assignments,but was I playing the game with blinders on. I had good coaches,but maybe at that time I couldn't grasp all of it. When I began coaching the game is when I began to realize how intricate and technical it is.

Like boxing,it may seem like it's easy,but the practice it takes to hone your skills takes a lot of hard work. As I moved up,I enjoyed passing along what I learned about football to my players. In the end I thought I turned out to be better coach than the ones who taught me the game. After 17 years of it,I knew the desire had left me. I retired from coaching having no regrets.

Today I took my 8 year old grandson Adam to his Karate school picnic at the beach. Lots of good food,nice people,friendly conversation. The boys began to play touch football on the lawn. They were running around with an abundance of energy. After the hot dogs and hamburgers were ready the kids took a break. They left the ball on the grass. I began to think when was the last time I picked up a football. I couldn't remember. Suddenly I got an urge to pick up that football and throw it as far as I could. I pulled myself up from my chair and hobbled over to that lonely looking ball. Just as I was bending down to pick it up, my grandson came running by in front of me and kicked the ball down the field. The rest of the boys scurried after it. I watched them scrambling for the ball. I then turned and walked slowly back to my chair. As I watched the boys playing again,I tried again to remember the last time I threw a football.
Rog, my son who is ten is playing linebacker on his 5th and 6th grade team at his school. he goes to Catholic school and they play other Catholic schools.
He is small but tough. He is in 5th grade , so the 6th graders get 90 percent of the playing time so he wasnt getting much of a chance to play.
Yesterday the coach put him at outside linebacker in the fourth quarter .He made four tackles in a row a couple were BIG hits.
Im real proud of him.
Then, he went home and put on his hockey equipment . He had a game that same evening.
Hes a good boy.
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kikibalt wrote:Antonio Margarito: A Long Road to the Top
By Gene Ramirez
Ringside Report

Last July boxing fans were treated to a classic fight that lived up to all the hype that preceded it. It was a battle that pitted fighters from two nations that have had a long-standing rivalry inside the squared circle. Of course I am referring to the Antonio Margarito - Miguel Cotto fight that took place in Las Vegas.

The fight was talked about since the deal was signed. I was telling all of my friends even the ones that only occasionally tuned in to watch boxing that this was one pay per view that they had to get. Everyone in the boxing world was predicting that this fight could be in the running for fight of the year. I was so excited for this fight that I had secured a bar that was having the fight in San Jose, California, about a month ahead of time because I was going to be there for a wedding.

At one point however I started to question if the fight could actually live up to the all this hype. Of course we all know now that the fight was everything that fans hoped it would be. Margarito and Cotto put on a show. The bar I watched the fight at was filled with Mexicans and they went crazy watching the ending.

But the Cotto fight was more than just a great fight for Margarito. It was the culmination of a lifetime of hard work, struggle, and determination.

While I was watching the Margarito fight one thing came into my mind and that was the scene from Rocky IV when he was fighting Ivan Drago. At one point in their fight Drago goes back to his corner after beating on Rocky only to see Rocky keep coming at him and says, “He is not human, he is a piece of iron.”

That was a priceless scene and I’m betting if you were able to crawl into Miguel Cotto’s head during that fight the exact same thought might have there.

But that one scene is not the only thing that made me think of Rocky while watching Margarito that night. Much like Rocky, Margarito was brought up from humble beginnings. Hailing from Tijuana, Mexico, Margarito didn’t have much of an amateur career turning pro after a record of 18-3. 21 pro fights might seem like a decent amount but in the amateurs when you compare with some very accomplished amateur fighters with records in the hundreds you can start to see it isn’t much.

Turning pro at age 15, Margarito started off with 5 wins before facing his first loss. Think of what you were doing at the age of 15. I was playing basketball for my high school’s JV team, worrying about my algebra test, and of course most importantly, wondering if the hot chick in my history class liked me.

Now let’s go back to what Antonio Margarito was doing. He was in the ring trading punches with grown men! So when you see the early losses he had you have to put them in that context.

Since those early fights Margarito has grown both inside and outside of the ring. Back in 1999, the night before his fight against Buck Smith, Margarito was given the grave news that his brother, Manuel Margarito, was murdered. Facing this harsh news Antonio Margarito pressed on with the fight the next day, winning by TKO inside of 6 rounds.

After that difficult time Margarito has gone on to face some of the best in the division including; Kermit Cintron, Paul Wiliams, Joshua Clottey, and Miguel Cotto. Always looking to take on the best fighters available Margarito almost lost his chance against Cotto when last year, instead of taking the fight with Cotto, Margarito decided to take on the also often avoided Paul Williams who was his mandatory.

One of the flaws in Margarito's game has been that he seems to start slow. In the fight against Williams this would prove to be his downfall. Williams is one of the few fighters who actually throws more punches per round than Margarito and he took the fight to Margarito early putting those rounds in the bag. By the time Margarito warmed up, it seemed to be a little too late and he ended up dropping a unanimous decision to Williams.

Many saw the fight against Williams as a fight that had too much risk and too little to gain. But Margarito being an avoided fighter himself was not about to do the same thing to Williams. Even though most fighters would have gladly given up their title to fight Cotto for a career payday and the exposure he would get fighting a name like Cotto it just isn't Margarito's style.

After that fight Margarito vowed to start faster and not let a fight get away from him. In his next fight against veteran Golden Johnson, Margarito would indeed pop it into gear faster. The fight did not make it past the first round as Margarito put pressure on early and never let up.

This would then set up a rematch against the hard hitting former IBF Welterweight Champion and RSR Feature Writer, Kermit Cintron, another dangerous opponent. This fight was on the under card of Cotto vs. Alfonso Gomez and if both fighters won it would set up a match between the Mexican and Puerto Rican stars. Margarito would go on to tear through Kermit Cintron, eating his best punches while delivering damage with both hands. The fight ended with a KO in the sixth round and with Cotto winning his fight later in the night it set up the classic match up between the two.

It has definitely been a long journey for Antonio Margarito. From growing up in Tijuana, to starting an early career in the sport just to make some money. He has faced the loss of a close brother, and the losses inside the ring. Margarito has weathered everything the world could throw at him both inside and outside the ring. The Tijuana Tornado is the perfect moniker for him as he seems to tear threw anything and anyone who is in front of him.

So where does Margarito go now? He lobbied unsuccessfully for an Oscar De La Hoya match which I think we all know the Golden Boy wanted no part of. Then a rematch with Joshua Clottey did not go through for late this year. So for now after the great battle that he waged against Cotto, Margarito is taking the rest of the year off and waiting to set up a fight at the beginning of the year in 2009. The word is that both Margarito and Cotto will take one fight then plan on a rematch in late 2009. I know that myself, just like the rest of the boxing world, can't wait to see that rematch or anytime Margarito gets in the ring for that matter.
Nice article about Margarito.I respect this guy.He is a helluva fighter and a TOUGH guy.
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The handsone young man to the left of Enrique is Roberto Bolanos Sr, Enriques's younger Brother and happens to be my father.
kikibalt wrote:Photo courtesy of Robert Bolanos

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Enrique Bolanos and friends
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
James Shuler
James Shuler was a good solid middleweight. To be honest, I either forgot or I just never knew that he died in a motorcycle accident. His only loss was to Tommy Hearns. He was knocked out in the first round. He died about a week after that fight. Against "regular" competition he fared a lot better. He had 23 fights, winning 22, 16 by KO. Not bad. He had wins over Sugar Ray Seales and James Kinchen.

It makes me realize how easy it is for a fighter to slip into obscurity. All fighters should be remembered. Good post Frank.
Shuler bought the motorbike with part of his purse from the Hearns fight. Some say he was still in a bit of a daze from the heavy Hearns knockout, when he was killed. It was a bad night all round. Richie Sandoval got badly hurt by Gaby Canizales, courtesy of some appalling refereeing from Carlos Padilla.
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
Ronnie Shields
Another fighter from the 80's with a respectable career. Like many of the fighters from the 80's, which include Buddy McGirt, Freddie Roach and my own cousin Louie Burke, he has made a name for himself as a trainer.

As a fighter he finished his career with 33 fights, winning 26 of them, 19 by KO. He lost only 6 times in his career and drew once. He was stopped once in his career, a six round TKO by Guillermo Miranda in Mexico city.
Shields certainly had good connections. He was always getting those title shots.
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RBolanos wrote:The handsone young man to the left of Enrique is Roberto Bolanos Sr, Enriques's younger Brother and happens to be my father.
kikibalt wrote:Photo courtesy of Robert Bolanos

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Enrique Bolanos and friends
NICE. :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:Going through some papers, I run into this article, thought I would share it with you.
On the second pic. from the top, you see Robert Blake walking with his lawyer and a
L.A. county deputy sheriff providing security during Blake's arraignment on a murder
charge, that deputy is my brother Mando, now retired.

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Is Mando just behind the three men?
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Boxingnut wrote:LIVERPOOL’S famous old boxing stadium is getting ready for a comeback.

And a host of former fighters are ready to share the spotlight.

Former Mersey boxer Brian Snagg wants to bring the revered Liverpool Stadium back to life in a new play to be staged at the Lighthouse Theatre, Anfield, next April.

And he already has a number of former boxers lining up for walk-on parts.

The play is entitled ‘Graveyard of Champions’ – the old nickname for the Stadium – and Snagg has already commissioned a script and is currently tracking down some of the city’s old fighters.

“The Liverpool Stadium was a much-loved institution in the city and I felt it was about time someone paid tribute to it,” said Brian.

An ex-boxer himself, Snagg was the inspiration behind the city’s first football pantomime which had a successful run at the Royal Court Theatre four years ago.

But as a livewire lightweight who boxed at the Liverpool Stadium himself as both an amateur and a professional, he is one of the many sportsmen and supporters who enjoyed a special affinity with the country’s first purpose-built boxing stadium.

“I boxed there as an amateur and as a professional and it was a truly special place,” he explained.

“It felt like you were in the movies.

“There was a long, dark tunnel leading to the ring and when you came out into the lights with the crowd roaring, the hairs on your neck used to stand on end.

“You had to really work hard just to concentrate on your fight.”

Snagg boxed his last professional contest at the Stadium on June 3, 1982, a defeat by Glyn Rhodes. Just two months earlier he stopped Jimmy Bunclarke in the same ring for his final pro victory.

But it is some of the Stadium’s greatest moments he hopes to recreate during the week-long run of ‘Graveyard of the Champions.’

The Stadium was christened the Graveyard when three champions crashed onto the canvas on the opening night of the new £30,000 arena – on October 20 1932.

Ginger Foran beat Scottish flyweight champion Jim Maharg, Jim Hunter, another Scottish champion, was knocked out by Jimmy Stewart and then local legend Ernie Roderick beat Billy Quinlan.

The nickname stuck. Perhaps it was the site, formerly occupied by St Paul’s Church and graveyard, which also had something to do with it, but champions stepped into its ring at their peril.

Happily John Conteh was one champion who didn’t fall victim to its curse.

The Stadium enjoyed arguably its greatest night on March 5, 1977, when the city’s finest fighter successfully defended his World light-heavyweight title against Lenny Hutchins.

Despite being built specifically as a boxing arena, however, the Stadium also staged music concerts – Louis Armstrong appeared there in 1956, Gene Vincent headlined in 1960, in 1968 Pink Floyd headlined the Kaleidoscope Festival and in 1972 David Bowie took his Spiders from Mars tour there.

But boxing was always the number one attraction, and next Spring some of its greatest hits will be celebrated again.
Yes, I remember now: as well as being a place where champions usually always lost their titles, it was also literally built on a graveyard.
I also remember Brian Snagg, Bunclarke, et all. They were good lads. Off the top of my head, one of the last biggish fights there must have been Roy Gumbs defending his British middleweight title. Gumbs, if you pardon this rather unusual aside, apparently had a secret weapon Dion Dublin would have envied. This broke in the press and every headline involving Gumbs for a while read along the lines of "Roy's strength can swing it."
This is true.

Cheers, Rob.
This was said in a completely heterosexual way, in case anyone is worried. Gumbs took part in one of the last 15-rounders at the Stadium, for sure, but Clinton McKenzie trounced Alan Lamb over 12 rounds at the venue in a later British title fight in 1983.
Clinton had been outscored in the Montreal Olympics by someone called Sugar Ray Leonard.
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I know one thing, the old Stadium hosted some cracking amateur nights in my youth. Keith Wallace, the Gilbodys, John Lyon, Tony Willis, Jimmy Price, John Hyland - they all shone there.
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Former undisputed world middleweight champion Jermain "Bad Intentions" Taylor takes on Jeff "Left Hook" Lacy in a clash of American 'names' (and nicknames) in a 12-rounder in good ol' Nashville, Tennessee, on November 15.
Taylor shook up the boxing world (as opposed to the general world, these days) when he outscored Philadelphia's Bernard Hopkins for all the middleweight belts (worth having) in Las Vegas in 2005, and proved it was no fluke when he repeated the feat later in the same year. Those wins look very good indeed now, of course.
Taylor disappointed thereafter as he struggled to retain against the smaller likes of Winky Wright (who held him to a draw) Kassim Ouma and Cory Spinks. "Just get out and fight!" an exasperated Emanuel Steward told Taylor before the start of one of the rounds in the Spinks bore, and Jermain then dropped the belt to Kelly "Ghost" Pavlik in seven stunning rounds last year, although he took Pavlik the full 12 in a non-title rematch earlier this year before conceding the points. That was up at super-middleweight where the 30-year-old Taylor looked strong and where he remains. This is his first fight since.
Lacy has also been through the mill and some say he will never get over a 12-round pounding he suffered at the hands of Joe Calzaghe in Manchester in March 2006. The brawling, 31-year-old Lacy copped 1006 punches that night and was down in the last - it was a terrible defeat, although it remains his only one. Stocky Jeff has plodded to three 10-round decisions since.
The comparison between the two is quite stark, then. Taylor looks to have much more left and, boxer-puncher as he is, should box and punch his way to a comprehensive decision.
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Going through some papers, I run into this article, thought I would share it with you.
On the second pic. from the top, you see Robert Blake walking with his lawyer and a
L.A. county deputy sheriff providing security during Blake's arraignment on a murder
charge, that deputy is my brother Mando, now retired.

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Is Mando just behind the three men?
No, he is the one with the dark glasses.
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